The Super Starter Pokémon Club!

[Hikari10]

Geez I need to post here more often, I'm so busy...

Oh well, time to answer the topic.

My fave fully-evolved starters from every generation would be...

Gen 1 - Venusaur: There's something I like about its design, presumably the giant flower on it and it's such a beast on sun-based teams.

Gen 2 - Meganium: While Cyndaquil is my fave base-form Johto starter, the fully-evolved title would have to go to adorable Meganium. I love how cute its appearance is, and like Venusaur, I like its flower as well.

Gen 3 - Blaziken: This guy is badass at its best, a fiery kicking chicken that holds the dubious honor of being the only starter banned to the Ubers. Speed Boost can make him really deadly, which is why he became Uber.

Gen 4 - Empoleon/Infernape: I couldn't decide between these two so I went with both of them, I love Infernape due to my love of monkeys and I love Empoleon's design being based on Napoleon Bonaparte. I have to say Sinnoh's starters have good looks imo.

Gen 5 - Samurott: I love the whole samurai theme going on with the Oshawott line, and Samurott has the badass-like looks and the fact it uses blades hidden in its legs as swords not to mention Razor Shell is one of my fave moves. My fave starter to date.

So yes, I have 2 faves of every type. Pretty balanced.

[♪Twiggy♪]

As for me, it'd be something like...

Uh, Blastoise, Feraligatr, Swampert, Torterra, and... Serperior?

[Olli97]

What is your favourite fully evolved starter from every gen?

Kanto: Uh, this one is kinda hard, since it seems to be a split choice between Charizard and Venusaur. Blastoise can already definitely be ruled out, since I've never really actually used the Squirtle line except for in some of my first playthroughs, when I thought Rock was strong against both Fire and Grass for some reason, and though Squirtle would be the best choice. But for some reason I switched to liking Charmander's line much better, even though it was a pain in the everloving behind to start out with, but it seems like I managed. So to say, during my entire first half of playing any first generation games, my starter was always Charmander, mainly because I thought Charmander and all its evolutions were super awesome, which obviously means I must've also liked Charizard a lot. But then, in the entire other half of my time playing first gen games, which includes the current time, even though I don't really play the first generation games much anymore, the Bulbasaur line has been my favourite. Why? Because I'm a totally lazy bumarse that just wanted to make my way through the games as quickly as possibly with type advantages and a minimum amount of grinding, which kinda diminished the whole experience of playing the games, since grinding, no matter how boring it is, is kind of what shapes us into the trainers we become, and a really important factor in the whole training process. You can look at a Pokemon and say "I grinded that to level 100!" and feel like the time you've spent haven't actually been in vain, but rather has been spent to shape the Pokemon into what it is, only through your sheer dedication (or being forced to it is also a possibility). I'm getting a bit off-topic, but the answer was simply, Venusaur 'cause lazy.

Johto: I lllllloooooooooooovvvvveeeeeeee Johto starters. Like seriously, I love them. Except for Chikorita, that one's a total nub. But anyways, this generation is also a tie, although a kinda weak tie on the one half, between two of the starters, although this time it's between a Fire and a Water type. Yeah, I can already go ahead and say announce that Typhlosion is most definitely my favourite here, just due to all the moments I've had with it, and due to how awesome the entire line is. I definitely love its cute little design, and I feel like the second generation had some of the best starter designs of them all, specifically Totodile, who's really colourful. But yeah, I do share some good memories with Totodile, which is why it's closely rivaling Cyndaquil to the top, however I do just love the Cyndaquil line just those few percent more, which is why Typhlosion would win this one.

Hoenn
Once again a tie, and the last of the element ties possible. It's between Sceptile and Swampert, being close rivals to being my favourite here, leaving Blaziken in the dark. And Blaziken shouldn't cry, because it's ugly as I don't even know what, and it already has so many fans, my little opinion shouldn't mean anything to it. In any case, it's between Sceptile and Swampert. Sceptile is mainly because it's probably the cooles of the three and the one with the best design, as well as it has helped me out quite a lot in my few playthroughs of the third generation games. It was the first one I used, and one that will remain close to me for all eternity. Close by it though is Swampert, whom I mainly like because i liek mudkipz. I mean seriously, that little creature is adorable, which is why I initially started to use it, however the reason I'm still using it is due to how OP Swampert is, and how well it rivals even the Pseudo-legendaries in strength. Definitely also a favourite.

Sinnoh: This generation didn't actually include a tie, and goes directly to Infernape. The main reason I used him the first time around, was because during my first playthrough of the region, it was bloody impossible to find any decent Fire type Pokemon, and the only one available pre-league was Ponyta/Rapidash, and no good comes from that line. And as I love my fire types, I tried out the Chimchar line to see if it was any good. And oh was it any good, no, it was amazing. I loved the Fire/Fighting typing, and even though it was in the previous generation too, this time the typing was actually on a Pokemon that looked decent enough. But it was a beast, helping me through so many battles, has always been my primary Pokemon for any team I've used with it on, and continues to be my all-time favourite of that region.

Unova: N/A

[synerjee]

I'm going to have to decide between two for each region. Here goes..

Kanto: Charizard or Blastoise.....Charizard.
Johto: Feraligatr or Typhlosion.....Typhlosion.
Hoenn: Swampert or Blaziken.....Swampert.
Sinnoh: Infernape or Empoleon.....Infernape.
Unova: Samurott or Serperior.....Serperior.

This list is based purely on looks and not by usage. It was quite a tough decision to make..for most of them, I simply like both so I really can't say. Decisions are not what I do well..so yea.

Oh, based on usage? This should be easier.

Blastoise. Typhlosion. Swampert. Empoleon. Samurott. :)

[RoreyG]

Hmmmmmmmm........How about a new topic.

What's the best in game moveset that you've ever had for a starter?

Mine would be in Fire Red where my Charizard had:

Blast Burn
Flamethrower
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

[♪Twiggy♪]

Best moveset?

Er...

Um...

I think I've never done any real movesets for a starter, but a Torterra with Wood Hammer and Earthquake comes very close, especially if you can afford recovery or is in-game.

[Element0]

I got to say, my Serperior in White 2 moveset is Leech Seed, Coil, Giga Drain, and Leaf Blade and it's a great moveset for in-game at the very least. I don't really need to heal him too much with Leech Seed and Giga Drain and after I set up a Leech Seed I can spam Coil, which boosts his Defence making any physical attacker useless against him, and boost his Attack so he can finish off his attacker. He's gone toe-to-toe with most of the types he's weak against and always did some damage to his enemy if he didn't K.O. him/her. I like the moveset so much, I don't want him to learn any new moves in case I regret it.

[♪Twiggy♪]

I wonder why I'm not able to think up of a proper topic lately...

But whatever.

I think I'm going to pick three random Pokémon and ask whether you think it'd make a good starter trio, ignoring typing, and what you'd think could make it better.

I'll start.

Zorua, Poochyena, and Houndour, anyone?

[Olli97]

It sounds like a good trio in theory, seeing as they're all pretty similar, about the same when it comes to battling, and they could easily be used for starters in case the conditions for actually being a starter were different. I know you said to ignore typing, and if I do that, then I admit, there isn't much of a problem. I don't care much about a three-stage evolution if they just lead to some decency, but typing is a really big part of what makes a starter Pokemon. It doesn't necessarily have to be the standard Grass/Fire/Water, but they need to be something that level each other out, and allows you to kinda take "multiple paths".

If a specific starter is hard to use through a part of the game due to its typing, then sure, that gives difficulty, another way to enjoy the game. If the starters typing is strong against the Pokemon in the beginning of the game, then that could help advancing faster, getting up to specific points quicker instead of staying around training. The problem with the ones you brought up however is that they're all of similar typing, with one being part fire. It won't really matter which one you choose, because they all provide you with the same gameplay kinda (unless the movepools are terrible), and there'll just not be any diversity.

But yeah, ignoring that certain part, there isn't really much of a problem with it, but seeing it like that, a lot of Pokemon could be potential starters, it's jsut about making them fit together.

[♪Twiggy♪]

Originally Posted by Olli97

It sounds like a good trio in theory, seeing as they're all pretty similar, about the same when it comes to battling, and they could easily be used for starters in case the conditions for actually being a starter were different. I know you said to ignore typing, and if I do that, then I admit, there isn't much of a problem. I don't care much about a three-stage evolution if they just lead to some decency, but typing is a really big part of what makes a starter Pokemon. It doesn't necessarily have to be the standard Grass/Fire/Water, but they need to be something that level each other out, and allows you to kinda take "multiple paths".

If a specific starter is hard to use through a part of the game due to its typing, then sure, that gives difficulty, another way to enjoy the game. If the starters typing is strong against the Pokemon in the beginning of the game, then that could help advancing faster, getting up to specific points quicker instead of staying around training. The problem with the ones you brought up however is that they're all of similar typing, with one being part fire. It won't really matter which one you choose, because they all provide you with the same gameplay kinda (unless the movepools are terrible), and there'll just not be any diversity.

But yeah, ignoring that certain part, there isn't really much of a problem with it, but seeing it like that, a lot of Pokemon could be potential starters, it's jsut about making them fit together.

I wonder what would happen if we were to make the game more about the right kind of attack for the right situation (Physical/Special/Fixed/Special-to-Def). Then it'd be less about typing and more about stats and moves (of course, enemy Pokémon need to be adjusted to fit, too)

[Flame-Typhlosion]

Hey everyone? Haven't been here in months. Might as well reply to the new topic.
I'd go with Poocheyena. For some reason, it's really the only dark type i ever liked. I mean, it's looks cool, although it's stats are not the best, it could be useful in a team, and it's move list isn't bad. Anyways, has anything important happen during June- November Twiggy?

[♪Twiggy♪]

Originally Posted by Flame-Typhlosion

Hey everyone? Haven't been here in months. Might as well reply to the new topic.
I'd go with Poocheyena. For some reason, it's really the only dark type i ever liked. I mean, it's looks cool, although it's stats are not the best, it could be useful in a team, and it's move list isn't bad. Anyways, has anything important happen during June- November Twiggy?

Nothing ever interesting happens here! /s I fudged with the "membership" "requirements".

I think Zorua is so cute... Maybe it's the cutest Dark type out there, aside from Scraggy. (Seriously, what's up with Generation V and cute Dark types?)

Who wants a Poochy in their home when they can have a Zorua? though when it evolves

[CourageHound]

Name: CourageHound
Starter Pokémon: Tepig(Dynamite), Bulbasaur(Zatch)
Why would you like to join the club?: Well your starter is like, your best bud, your partner, your right hand poke, and best bud for life. As such almost everyone of my starters have breached my favorite pokemon list just because of how awesome, and cute they are.(And why theyre so painfully hard to choose from )
Answering Topic:

Would they make a good starter trio?
Zorua, Poochyena, and Houndour, anyone?

Even tho I love Poochyena or Houndour, I'd say no...My reasoning is:

1.There isnt very much variety. I'm not talking about types. What I mean by that is they have tooo similar traites that would have virtually no impact on gameplay whether you pick one or the other. Similar moves, similar pitfalls/difficulties early game, and practically identical feel of pace.

2. Balancing issues within the starters; i'm very sad to say that Poochyena just isnt strong enough(not to mention an atrocious move pool), or useful in too many situations to be a starter. Unless him and mightyena, (and a possible new third evolution) were to get some sort of revamp, I couldn't see them being a starter. If he was, it would be like a psuedo-"hard mode". Similar to if you picked chikorita in 2nd gen(only cuz of the 1st two gym type weaknesses but Poochyena is worse).

Previous Topic:What is your favourite fully evolved starter from every gen?
Khanto:
Split btween venusaur and charizard. Venusaur is a giant green plant dinosaur, and charizard is a flame dragon. Both cool designs and both pack alot of power. Really, I think all three Khanto starters are great but I like Venusaur's and Charizard's lines more than Blastoises'.

Jhoto:
Typhlosion all the way. Super cool, funny, strong, and adorable. Frealigatr is cool too but I love Typhlosion that much more. I dont really like Meganium :/.

Hoenn:
I love Swampert. Bulky, strong, cool design and dem mudkipz. However i think i'm the only guy i know that doesnt like Blaziken :L. Idk, I just dont like his build.

Sinnoh:
Al the sinnoh starters were great. Very cool designs and great ideas. As such i tie all three. But for topic's sake I'll go with Infernape due to him being my first Sinnoh starter(meaning on my first run of the game).

Unova:
:3 Do I gotta say it? Emboar! Hes like, my bro. Bravin' through unova,, side by side, both b&b2. Samurott being pretty cool too, the runner up although imo, he cant compete with Emboar. I...dun really like serperior tho.

[♪Twiggy♪]

Originally Posted by CourageHound

Name: CourageHound
Starter Pokémon: Tepig(Dynamite), Bulbasaur(Zatch)
Why would you like to join the club?: Well your starter is like, your best bud, your partner, your right hand poke, and best bud for life. As such almost everyone of my starters have breached my favorite pokemon list just because of how awesome, and cute they are.(And why theyre so painfully hard to choose from )
Answering Topic:

Would they make a good starter trio?
Zorua, Poochyena, and Houndour, anyone?

Even tho I love Poochyena or Houndour, I'd say no...My reasoning is:

1.There isnt very much variety. I'm not talking about types. What I mean by that is they have tooo similar traites that would have virtually no impact on gameplay whether you pick one or the other. Similar moves, similar pitfalls/difficulties early game, and practically identical feel of pace.

2. Balancing issues within the starters; i'm very sad to say that Poochyena just isnt strong enough(not to mention an atrocious move pool), or useful in too many situations to be a starter. Unless him and mightyena, (and a possible new third evolution) were to get some sort of revamp, I couldn't see them being a starter. If he was, it would be like a psuedo-"hard mode". Similar to if you picked chikorita in 2nd gen(only cuz of the 1st two gym type weaknesses but Poochyena is worse).

Previous Topic:What is your favourite fully evolved starter from every gen?
Khanto:
Split btween venusaur and charizard. Venusaur is a giant green plant dinosaur, and charizard is a flame dragon. Both cool designs and both pack alot of power. Really, I think all three Khanto starters are great but I like Venusaur's and Charizard's lines more than Blastoises'.

Jhoto:
Typhlosion all the way. Super cool, funny, strong, and adorable. Frealigatr is cool too but I love Typhlosion that much more. I dont really like Meganium :/.

Hoenn:
I love Swampert. Bulky, strong, cool design and dem mudkipz. However i think i'm the only guy i know that doesnt like Blaziken :L. Idk, I just dont like his build.

Sinnoh:
Al the sinnoh starters were great. Very cool designs and great ideas. As such i tie all three. But for topic's sake I'll go with Infernape due to him being my first Sinnoh starter(meaning on my first run of the game).

Unova:
:3 Do I gotta say it? Emboar! Hes like, my bro. Bravin' through unova,, side by side, both b&b2. Samurott being pretty cool too, the runner up although imo, he cant compete with Emboar. I...dun really like serperior tho.

Mmm hmm, wow, you went and replied to two topics, huh? Teehee.

It's a pity that you can't exactly alter BSTs after they exist these days.

Emboar is like the bro for you. Mmm hmm, I want to hug one, but I still like my Turtwig love more.

[CourageHound]

Actually i think i've seen a few games that modify the stats of non starter pokemon the be more powerful. Dunno how tho.

Oh and if I could hug an Emboar my life would be 1/3 complete

[♪Twiggy♪]

Originally Posted by CourageHound

Oh and if I could hug an Emboar my life would be 1/3 complete

Hnnnnng round bulky chubby thing that's super warm and probably quite huggable

*hugs it*

[CourageHound]

Mind if I sggest a new topic: Is there a starter whos final form you thought would turn out differently?

For me it was definately emboar. I thought he was gunna become some kinda quadraped boar guy. At first i was all Meh-ish with his design. But soon Emboar grew on me....like a wild fire. And then became one of my favorite pokemon ever since. Hes like, that amazing. However I think in the B/W anime he is very porely drawn as if they didnt want to put that much effort in matching his orginal artwork. BUT in the B/W2 animated promo/trailer he was drawn beautifully(as with all the other animation) and will probobly be his best apearence till Emboar takes the stage in a movie where they decide to be 110% effert into his form.

[Avishka]

Originally Posted by CourageHound

Mind if I sggest a new topic: Is there a starter whos final form you thought would turn out differently?

For me it was definately emboar. I thought he was gunna become some kinda quadraped boar guy. At first i was all Meh-ish with his design. But soon Emboar grew on me....like a wild fire. And then became one of my favorite pokemon ever since. Hes like, that amazing. However I think in the B/W anime he is very porely drawn as if they didnt want to put that much effort in matching his orginal artwork. BUTin the B/W2 animated promo/trailer he was drawn beautifully(as with all the other animation) and will probobly be his best apearence till Emboar takes the stage in a movie where they decide to be 110% effert into his form.

wht do u mean by quadraped boar guy???

i don't like the final evolution of oshawott it's design is bad imo
Samurott doesn't look like it has evolved from oshawott same goes for Swampert, other than these two all are good

[CourageHound]

Mind my spelling but I meant quadrapedal, as in on four feet

[♪Twiggy♪]

Originally Posted by Avishka

wht do u mean by quadraped boar guy???

i don't like the final evolution of oshawott it's design is bad imo
Samurott doesn't look like it has evolved from oshawott same goes for Swampert, other than these two all are good

I think Swampert works pretty well. On the other hand, Samurott sometimes felt like it came out of nowhere.

[CourageHound]

Originally Posted by ♪Twiggy♪

I think Swampert works pretty well. On the other hand, Samurott sometimes felt like it came out of nowhere.

After a trip to an aquarium, they decided to make dewott a sea lion upon evolving(Samurott)

[Element0]

Samurott definitely felt out of place when I first saw it. First we had a cute little Oshawott, then a still cute but cool looking Dewott, then out of nowhere a big sea lion with a unihorn and whiskers. I'm not saying I hate its design, it just seemed a little weird considering its previous evolutions.

[Cosmotone8]

I thought Dewott was weirdly colored. That teal that makes up most of the body didn't look good with the large amounts of navy.
I think it would of looked better like this, imo:

[CourageHound]

Meh, I guess all the fifth gen starters got the taboo evolutions. Even tho I geuess alot people say it coming, I didnt imagine snivy turning into a giant serpent....with no feet.

[Checkers_Albino_Umbreon]

Name: Checkers (for short)
Starter Pokémon: Boomer the Typhlosion + Charry the Charmander
Why would you like to join the club?: I love starters!! Yay! Also, my dad once had a car with a Typhlosion painted on the side. It was awesome!