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| Nowhere! You can't get more authentic than that. |
  
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| In the wild, in patches of grass. |
  
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 The legendary special is typically special 0x138, but special 0x137 serves the same purpose, just for icy areas. I did try looking for something to hack which music loads for what Pokémon, but all posts I found were either questions that never got answered or questions with answers that never had more of a response than "it would require ASM hacking." Hence me posting the poll with the decided opinion that there just wasn't a solution right now. Just through my various searches alone I would have never found out that a hack for it does exist, or if it had ever been posted, so this is great news! Spoiler:
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October 2nd, 2012, 06:13 PM
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.align 2
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.global battlemusichackleg
main: push {r2,r3}
ldr r0, tableloc
there: ldrh r2, [r0, #0x0]
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lsl r1, r1, #0x1
add r1, #0x1
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loadmusic: ldrh r1, [r0, #0x2]
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end: .word 0x0000FEFE
goback: .word 0x0807FA3F
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[Pokémon Species - Half-Word][Song ID to Play - Half-Word] Then, point the tableloc to this new table, and you should be good to go. Remember, of course, to keep everything correctly aligned. Major note: I only tested this with special 0x138. It does NOT work with wildbattle or special 0x137.
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October 2nd, 2012, 09:06 PM
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 Is there any limits to what you're able to do with FireRed? It is amazing to see you create so many barrier-crushing ASM routines for the game! The code works perfectly, by the way. I assigned proper tunes to all the legendary Pokémon in the ROM, and the code works without a hitch. Theories seem to fall flat, though; the code doesn't work for special 0x137. That's OK, though; the use of the special in FireRed makes the ice chunks in the background some off-seeming colors, including black and white. I'm fine with just using special 0x138 anyways. I guess that makes the poll null now. Like I said before, this is great news for everyone! Thanks so much again, Jambo51. With this great news, hopefully I can get my next release out relatively soon. It'll be a drastic change compared to last time! Maybe next time I'll control my frustration better on the forums... 
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October 6th, 2012, 05:03 AM
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October 6th, 2012, 07:12 PM
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VERSION 3.0 is now available in the first post!
As you might have guessed by my new avatar, I've put my focus into somewhere else this time around. Yep, there's now a patch to change the main character's clothes to what they were in the old days. Don't worry, the female player's sprites have also been changed accordingly, despite not appearing in R/G/B/Y. I've also separated the Extras patch into two separate Entei-ties (sorry, bad pun). Now there is an Extras patch, and a new Catch 'em All patch. More details can be found in both the changelog and the first post, but I'll just say that I think you'll all like some of the new custom events.  And hey, that strange Super Nerd in Fuchisa City now has a purpose thanks to that patch. The new poll is asking how I should make Mew and Celebi accessible in the game, as I honestly don't know what to do about them. Be honest and thoughtful with your response! What are you waiting for? Go check out the update now! Changelog: Spoiler:
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October 8th, 2012, 05:42 PM
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October 8th, 2012, 07:01 PM
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captnotatroll's patch has nothing to do with the music. It changes all the Pokémon sprites into their Red/Blue iterations. And yes, you can apply his normal patch alongside all of my own. My patches do not have interfering data with his at all, as his custom sprites occur from 0x710000 to somewhere around 0x752000, whereas all my custom data starts after 0x760000. In other words, they play together just fine! (BTW, his Deluxe patch is not compatible with my Extras patch, as both change trainer data.) And, with my newest release, you should be able to apply all the patches in any order you choose. If you run into any issues, just tell me and I'll get to fixing it.
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October 8th, 2012, 07:25 PM
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 )Also, what feature does this screenshot in the "Catch 'em All" section show?  I just don't see a connection to anything on the features list except maybe the Giovanni event...
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October 8th, 2012, 07:53 PM
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If you go back to Lavender Town after getting the Earth Badge from Giovanni (AND subsequently talking to him again, causing him to disappear), you'll be greeted by this scenario. It's your job to find the "evil man" and restore justice! Entirely optional, of course, but anyone who does it should like the aftermath. The spoiler below is another hint, but I figured that it might give away too much! Spoiler:
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October 9th, 2012, 04:52 PM
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October 9th, 2012, 05:26 PM
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As for the patches themselves, just apply them in any order you want. I keep them separate so people can pick and choose what they want in their own version of the game. Some people might want a clean ROM experience with just the GB Player, or maybe they want everything except the "forced" Pokémon locations from the Catch 'em All patch. If there's enough demand for an all-in-one patch, though, I guess I can make one.
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October 10th, 2012, 09:28 PM
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October 11th, 2012, 02:54 PM
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I forgot to mention that freeze bug. It will occur only if you're using the Wardrobe patch, and only if you're playing as a male character. That's because the pointers to the male character's head sprite on the map changed in making the old-school version of it (the new head somehow took up more space than the old one). Do you have the previous patched version of the ROM? If you do, make a save state after loading its save and use that save state for the new patched ROM. Save states should be compatible between versions. Also, make sure you're patching a new ROM each time and not applying a new patch on top of a previous version of my hack. If you patch a new version on top of an old version, you're gonna have a bad time.
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October 16th, 2012, 04:30 PM
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October 17th, 2012, 04:18 AM
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What I believe is that the remakes should be focused on instead. In my ideal world, all remakes of old games would include everything people love about the originals while providing absolute improvements to what was available before. Remaking the complete 8-bit custom soundtrack for FireRed falls into the former, as many people would take the original tracks over the GBA ones any day of the week. I know I would. The Wardrobe patch also serves this purpose. The Extras patch serves the latter purpose. This leaves the Catch 'em All patch all alone. I created this because I suspected others would want something like it for my hack (it seems to be a requirement nowadays in all FireRed hacks, like it or not). However, I don't care for taking "personal liberties" with them, as you've already noticed. If it doesn't feel authentic, it won't be in my patch. Also, if you haven't been able to tell yet, I haven't changed anything about the Pokémon themselves. All Pokémon are the same types. They learn the same moves as they do in FireRed. And, yes, the trade-evolve Pokémon still evolve through trade. Changing these things would be changing the canon established in the franchise, and doing that would be against my intentions. As I've already stated, I won't be making this a 386 hack, but a 251 hack. I also have no intentions to make a 386 hack ever. Doing so would require making a game with two full-fleged regions, which I could never do with the 3rd gen unless those regions were Kanto and Hoenn. That role is already being filled by Suicune and atif, and I have no intentions on stepping on their toes to do that. Plus, making such a massive patch would drain me of too much time and energy. In fact... Once I've finished my work with FireRed Throwback, I'm done with GBA hacking. Considering the GBA is also now a dead system, I'd like to stop being a part of it. If anything, I might dabble with DS hacking, as there are technically superior games available for it that serve a similar purpose as the games available for this system. I know the DS will have a long-lasting hacking scene, as we will likely never see a hacking community for the 3DS, much less an emulator, or even flashcarts, for it. I'm eager for the new era to usher in full! The upcoming DS Map Editor for the 4th (and 5th?) gen games makes me proud of this community and their achievements in game hacking. I'm sorry if this response upsets you, but it's what I believe now. I've thought about it for quite a while now, and this decision didn't come without deliberation. Quote:
In that case, the main feasible options would be to either make a program capable of letting the user pick which patches he/she wants and have it do all the work for them, or create a webpage with a similar function. I don't see either of those happening from my own power. For the former, I don't have the skills necessary to code a program that could do such a thing. As for the latter, I have a base idea of what to do, but going through with it would result in an immediate cease-and-desist by Nintendo/Game Freak/Creatures for having the game's data available on the web. Not to mention the swift perma-banning I'd get from PC as a result... I'd gladly support a program that could serve the former purpose if one ever got made, or exists in any fashion right now! I just wouldn't be able to do it myself given my current skill set. *** Just a quick update for everyone: Thank you for your responses to the poll! I now have a base idea of how I'd want to implement Mew and Celebi. Details in the spoiler: Spoiler:
This just leaves one question left: What will be done about the Johto starters? They're now the only Pokémon I have no idea what to do with. Polls wouldn't suffice with this as it requires more defined responses.
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October 25th, 2012, 07:46 PM
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Speaking of Oak, I had an idea the other day: You probably know that Prof. Oak had trainer data in the 1st-gen games. Why not put that fight in the remakes? You could do it a number of ways -- He could challenge you in his Lab, he could be a surprise E4 battle (as his Pokemon were at a higher level than the Rival's entire team), you name it! Anyway, there's my two cent's worth. I imagine I'll be happy no matter what you do, though! ( )
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Theoretically, though, it wouldn't be hard to do. We already know what his Pokémon would be, and a battle sprite is already present (the one used for the Fame Checker). I'd just have to create a script that chooses which battle will be had based on the player's starter. Quote:
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October 25th, 2012, 11:53 PM
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It may not fit too well, but that's the best I have right now. As for fitting in an Oak event where he gives you a Johto starter, it could be part of the scene where he gives you the National Dex. It's not perfect, but it could work. Quote:
You're right, it doesn't fit very well, but I think I might have an explanation for why he might do all that training: It could be part of his research. Oak's research is on human-Pokemon relations, and he could be training Pokemon again so he can remind himself what these relationships are like. A little Farfetch'd perhaps, but I think it makes sense. Also, this could be connected to the Johto starter event, but that could make things a bit awkward... Out of curiosity, if you were to put the Oak battle in, which patch would it be in? Or would it need its own patch? Quote:
Wasn't that primarily the music? By the way, I sometimes feel like this hack is progressing TOO fast, believe it or not! I still haven't had time to try the current version (SCHOOOOOOL!!!! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ), and now I'm afraid to start because with my luck, the day I start is when you'll release the next update... No matter what you do, this will continue to be an amazing hack, especially because users can choose what to use. Unless you completely ruin everything you've done, I'll be happy with pretty much anything! ...This is a much longer post than I thought it would be...
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If I were to include it, it would be more fitting for a patch of its own. It would include several of the things other people put into their hacks, such as characters/Pokémon from other regions, DS-esque overworld graphics, and an extra rival based on me, along with the aforementioned "flesh". Of course, that would stray too far from the hack's intent, as I'm not a genius when it comes to creating unique content. Plus I wouldn't have that much interest in doing all that. Quote:
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The idea of choosing patches/features actually came from another hack that I was involved with awhile back. It was such an inspiring thing for me because I hadn't seen anything like it before: a fan alteration of a classic game that attempted to only improve its flaws and make it feel more full than it was before, without making something original out of it while also giving people the choice on what they wanted to include in it for themselves. As it turned out, the hack's intent and execution was original all on its own. I might not be as skilled as a hacker as others, but I'm happy to contribute something that aims to perfect a classic game (Red, that is; FireRed isn't original enough to be much more than an update. HG/SS, on the other hand...) and leaves resources for other hackers to use in the future. Quote:
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October 29th, 2012, 03:18 AM
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VERSION 3.2 AVAILABLE!
Confused by the numbering? Don't be! I chose that because I felt it to be right for my purposes regarding the hack. Plus it represents the -bit system that is the GBA (32-Bit). Anyways, today's update doesn't really have new features. Instead, I chose to completely overhaul the element that I originally focused on with this hack: the music. Before, the 8-Bit songs in this hack sounded awfully close to the real deal. I haven't heard anything in the ways of complaints since addressing the few that I had when I first released it, so most of you might not even know what I'm talking about when I say that the old tracks were a bit off, even after my self-touted major upgrade awhile ago. Anyways, no more being down on my old work. Recently, I made a few posts in the old GB Player thread in the Research & Development forum. Since doing so, I happened upon something that was a gold mine to me: a major correlation between the structure of songs in the original games and the structure of GBA tracks! With a lot of work, and a bit of frustration, I now present to you the fruits of my labor: nearly perfect recreations of the 8-Bit tracks. Listen closely for those wonderful beeps-and-boops of old times. Oh, yeah: you can now finish your pre-4th Gen Eevee-lution collection! Yay .Changelog: Spoiler:
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October 29th, 2012, 05:53 PM
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Just a quick question, RichterSnipes.
Did you find any music table in Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow? I'm currently writing a programme which deals with Gen 1 and 2 music. It's working quite well for Gen 2 (well, for Gold and Silver, since I also don't have Crystal's music table location), but I can't test it on Gen 1 because I don't have a song table. Incidentally, I will cry if there isn't one.
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October 29th, 2012, 07:12 PM
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Funny thing about those: the song data itself was stored in three different areas in the ROM (I'm talking about Red, specifically). Those areas were from 9BA3-BFF3, 22330-23F51, and 7DBBB-7FFF9. The headers were at 822E-82FD and 7C249-7C2FC. I don't know what a music table looks like, or where one would be located, for that matter. My best guess is that it'd be at offset 8000. Don't quote me on that...unless you feel like it. Out of curiosity, what is the location for the music table in Gold and Silver? That program you're making sounds awfully interesting!
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It's... Perfect! If you can do this, that would be the best solution, definitely. It would give me more motivation to try the Trainer Tower, for starters (no pun intended). My question then becomes how many of the Johto starters would you be able to get in this way? Getting all of them from this seems a bit much, no matter how you handle it... Quote:
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I CALLED IT! I just started it yesterday! (All I did was start a new file to test the GB player, but still...) Ah well... I haven't made any significant progress, so I'll just make a new save file. Quote:
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I may have missed something in previous posts, but is the glitch with the map in the Wardrobe patch still there? I don't want to use it if that hasn't been fixed... I need to be able to fly, after all! Some final notes: How many Pokemon are currently available with the Catch 'em All patch? Also, dou you have any estimate of when all 251 will be implemented? (I'm expecting a very rough estimate of a very long time...) While it is nice that all of the trees will stay cut, would it be possible to do the same with the Rock Smash stones? They're at least as annoying, and the HM to clear them is much later in the game and less useful. Similar to above, while the trainer facing fix is cool, I'd rather have the running shoes work inside. Not because I'm impatient as much as because... They should work indoors to begin with. I believe HackMew has a simple tutorial on how to do it, and I think most players would like the addition. Finally, I'd like to use this hack (specifically the extras and the Catch 'em All patches) so my niece can enjoy Pokemon as it should be. However, as she's still a beginner, it would be nice if you could get the Teachy TV by talking to the old man after his demonstration. This way, it wouldn't bother those who don't need it, and its still there for those who do. Of course, if you removed the item at some point during development then you can ignore this entire paragraph. Thanks!
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Nit picky point, but the M4AA engine is actually 16 bit. The GBA is a 16 bit system by design. All the memory buses are 16 bit (the channels of communication between processor and cartridge only support 16 bit data transfers). The M4AA engine is coded in 16 bit THUMB, and as such is 16 bit itself.
Hardware lesson over, the music table in GS is at 0xE906E, it has 3 byte pointers on it which point to the music headers. The format of the music headers is identical between gen 1 and gen 2. The note structure is a little different, but it's documented in one of the documents you have read. To find a song headed from the table, take the second 2 bytes, reverse them, then subtract 0x4000 from the number. Eg, the pointer is 3A D1 7B, reverse the 2nd and 3rd byte (7B D1), subtract 0x4000 (3B D1) and note this location down. Now, multiply the first byte (3A) by 0x4000 to get the "ROM bank". (0xE8000) Finally, add the 2 numbers together to get the ROM location. (0xE8000 + 0x3BD1 = 0xEBBD1) What my tool does at the moment is export the song as a .s file, ready to insert into a gen 3 ROM. It's not perfect, but it's getting there.
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