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Old October 25th, 2012, 04:37 AM
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1. Is it easier to RNG in DPPT or HGSS
2. Is it easier to RNG eggs or wild pokes
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and I don't know my SID
These are the only two points I can personally help you on, maybe someone else will help you with the rest...

I have only ever RNG eggs or wild Pokes in DPPT. It's not easy... well it is easy, but hitting your delay take practice. When I first started I was looking for shiny eggs first, that's acctually not hard. It's going for IV's that takes the most patience.

I found both eggs and wild encounters to be just as easy. You need an area with no wandering NPC's to do wild encounters, which is difficult. My favorite place to RNG wild pokemon is the trophy garden, because I like cute Pokemon.

Your SID is so easy to get on your own now. Just go to www.pokecheck.org. Follow the directions there on how to edit your DS settings. Connect to their fake GTS server(from within the game, just go to the GTS like normal, but the DS will really connect to Pokecheck), and send over any random pokemon (you won't lose the poke, but if you are nervouse the first time send something like a level 1 Pidgey or Caterpie). You can then view all the stats of your Pokemon, including IV's, EV's, etc... and more importantly for your immeadiate purpose, your SID will be displayed. Pokecheck is awsome for breeding, not just RNG breeding, but the traditional breeding because you can verify the correct IV's of the parent Pokemon before you drop them off at the day care.

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Old October 25th, 2012, 05:12 AM
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sorry to be another noob but IV breeding naturally is frustrating me and someone directed me here
3 questions to try and keep it simple I still reading through the 4th gen guide :/
1. Is it easier to RNG in DPPT or HGSS
2. Is it easier to RNG eggs or wild pokes
3.there are requirements for SS near the start
all three roamers released and NOT caught ( I caught suicune )
and I don't know my SID but the good news is I havent caught the red gyarados
Does the fact that I caught suicune matter because I don't want to star a new game? after that I think I can meet all the requirements easily I just have to trade over someone with pokerus from another game and I should be good to go so some feedback would be appreciated as I literally just found out what RNG abuse was like 10minutes ago :L
1. It is easier to RNG in HGSS, especially for RNGing eggs since there are not a lot of npcs (about 2 if I am correct).
2. I would say eggs. For eggs, you can RNG in any combination of TID/SID and you can get your baby mons to learn egg moves. For wild mons, if you want it to be shiny and has a flawless IVs, you will need to RNG your TID/SID, start a new game and play it through again which will take you a lot of time.
3. Suicune is a stationary pokemon, not a roamer so it would not matter if you caught it already. The only down side is that you cannot RNG the IVs of that Suicune. The three roamers the guide you read mention are Entei, Raikou, and Latios/Latias. For the SID, I would go with RingoH's answer from previous post.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 01:31 PM
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Sydian: Get an Aipom, it's purple as well. Lots of cool poison Pokemon are purple as well.
PPRNG is very similar to Reporter and actually, it's more up to date than RNG Reporter. Vaporeon7 is a mac user, so ask him for help
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Old October 25th, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Hey guys, just RNG'd my first shiny ever today! A shiny Bagon hatched on my Platinum. I was wondering how it would be to take the next step to RNG for perfect (or near perfect) pokemon. What would be easier, wild or egg? I don't have many pokemon with good IV's to start with and I'm confined to my Platinum (and all other 4th gen games) until I find some guides on BW2 since my original White is M.I.A.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 07:56 PM
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Sydian: Get an Aipom, it's purple as well. Lots of cool poison Pokemon are purple as well.
Well, Aipom is reserved for someone else. XD I've still yet to RNG an Aipom for Klippy. It's his favorite Pokemon. Plus Izamar doesn't seem like an Aipom name. :P Poison doesn't seem like it'd work either. I do think Eevee/Espeon would be the best option here. It's nice and pretty and represents the name well I think.

I might as well just go ahead and download it then and figure it out for myself, lol.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 08:41 PM
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Hi guys, could I get a clearification about what RNG is? I've heard it's a way to obtain shinies easier and I'm interested in shiny-hunting. Does this method involve trading or something? Thank you!
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Old October 26th, 2012, 02:43 AM
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Can someone see if my step of rng abuse TID/SID is wrong or correct?

1) First done calibration with offset of 1 sec.
2)Found a seed, For example 322A580A340D8469
3)Found the initial for shiny frame 55
4)Go to pandora box, paste 322A580A340D8469 and 55 and search.
5)A list of seed came out, Take one seed(1) with a high frame with starter truth. Date 3/28/11 Time 08/36/30
6)Hit the seed, Found the TID, and press seed hit, found a seed(2) frame higher then the initial frame.

So now for example i target frame 30 inital frame 20. I need to advance 10steps to get the ID. But which ID will i get? The seed(1) or seed(2) and which seed i have to hit to get my ID/SID, Seed(1) or Seed(2)?
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Old October 26th, 2012, 06:41 AM
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Can someone see if my step of rng abuse TID/SID is wrong or correct?

1) First done calibration with offset of 1 sec.
2)Found a seed, For example 322A580A340D8469
3)Found the initial for shiny frame 55
4)Go to pandora box, paste 322A580A340D8469 and 55 and search.
5)A list of seed came out, Take one seed(1) with a high frame with starter truth. Date 3/28/11 Time 08/36/30
6)Hit the seed, Found the TID, and press seed hit, found a seed(2) frame higher then the initial frame.

So now for example i target frame 30 inital frame 20. I need to advance 10steps to get the ID. But which ID will i get? The seed(1) or seed(2) and which seed i have to hit to get my ID/SID, Seed(1) or Seed(2)?
Your steps are correct and Seed(1) should be the ID you have to hit, not the Seed(2).

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Hi guys, could I get a clearification about what RNG is? I've heard it's a way to obtain shinies easier and I'm interested in shiny-hunting. Does this method involve trading or something? Thank you!
RNG = Random Number Generator where we use a software to calculate at what time we will get a good pokemon, it does not have to be shiny.
This method does not evolve any trading, you just need the software which is RNG Reporter, your DS, and your game.

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Hey guys, just RNG'd my first shiny ever today! A shiny Bagon hatched on my Platinum. I was wondering how it would be to take the next step to RNG for perfect (or near perfect) pokemon. What would be easier, wild or egg? I don't have many pokemon with good IV's to start with and I'm confined to my Platinum (and all other 4th gen games) until I find some guides on BW2 since my original White is M.I.A.
I would say eggs. You can download a pokemon with good IVs on pokecheck and try to RNG breed with it.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 06:55 AM
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RNG = Random Number Generator where we use a software to calculate at what time we will get a good pokemon, it does not have to be shiny.
This method does not evolve any trading, you just need the software which is RNG Reporter, your DS, and your game.
Looks rather troublesome for me, but thanks for the explanation. Appreciate it. :)
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Old October 26th, 2012, 07:03 AM
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Your steps are correct and Seed(1) should be the ID you have to hit, not the Seed(2).
I see, So i have to hit the Seed(1) and say no to jupiter 10times . Thanks a lot for your help.
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Old October 26th, 2012, 07:10 AM
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Looks rather troublesome for me, but thanks for the explanation. Appreciate it. :)
It's actually really easy. I always tell people that think it's hard that me of all people learned. I'm probably the most difficult person to teach something to and I learned it and got pretty damn good at it, haha. So I mean, anyone can learn it. It's not really that hard once you get past the annoying stuff, like finding parameters. I mean, the program does all the math for you. :)
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Old October 26th, 2012, 07:40 AM
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Well. You can chain breed. Back in GEN III on my Emerald that's how I bred a nearly perfect Chansey (I also had a one hour commute on a bus each way to work... so I spent a few weeks on this). Also, in Emerald Ditto is so easy to catch. I worked on a collection of Dittos that each had at least one perfect IV (I had at least one Ditto for each stat)...
I then bred a Snubull male, and kept hatching eggs and going to the man who gives you estimates of IV's until he said it had a flawless one. Since each time you ask him if a Pokemon has more than one flawless he would tell you a random one each time, so I would ask him several times if there was one flawless IV to make sure there was not more than one. I repeated until I had a Snubull with two flawless IV's. I did the same with Chansey and a Ditto to get a Chansey with two perfect IV's. I remember I had a Snubull and Chansey both with a perfect HP IV, and one different other perfect stat. Put them in the day care, and kept hatching eggs until I had a Chansey with multiple perfects.

While this kind of breeding is very tedious... you can do a similar process in RNG.

RNG a wild Pokemon with one or more perfect IV's. Then RNG another parent wild Pokemon also with one or more perfect IV's. Put them in the day care and take their IV's into consideration for finding a spread that meets yous needs.

You results will vary depending on how good you are at hitting your delay.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 12:49 AM
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Sooo I had a weekend that for some reason wasn't busy, so I managed to RNG a few Pokemon. Have a look:

Articuno (lvl 60)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Pressure || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/7/31/30/31/30 [HP Water 70]
Agility|Ice Beam|Reflect|Roost


Zapdos (lvl 60)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Pressure || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Charge|Agility|Discharge|Roost


Moltres (lvl 60)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Pressure || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Flamethrower|Safeguard|Air Slash|Roost


Latios ♂ (lvl 68)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Levitate || OT: ♠カミラ♠ (0)
IVs: 31/6/31/30/31/30 [HP Fire 70]
Psycho Shift|Dragon Dance|Psychic|Heal Pulse


Uxie (lvl 50)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Levitate || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Swift|Yawn|Future Sight|Amnesia


Mesprit (lvl 50)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Levitate || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Swift|Lucky Chant|Future Sight|Charm


Azelf (lvl 50)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Levitate || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Swift|Uproar|Future Sight|Nasty Plot


Heatran ♂ (lvl 50)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Flash Fire || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Metal Sound|Crunch|Scary Face|Lava Plume


Cresselia ♀ (lvl 50)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Levitate || OT: Gonzo (16161)
IVs: 31/22/30/31/31/31 [HP Ice 70]
Mist|Aurora Beam|Future Sight|Slash


Cresselia ♀ (lvl 68)

Nature: Modest || Ability: Levitate || OT: ♠カミラ♠ (0)
IVs: 31/6/31/30/31/30 [HP Fire 70]
Future Sight|Slash|Moonlight|Psycho Cut



Virizion (lvl 65)

Nature: Timid || Ability: Justified || OT: ♠カミラ♠ (0)
IVs: 31/6/30/31/30/30 [HP Rock 70]
Sacred Sword|Swords Dance|Quick Guard|Work Up

English Pokemon come from my Platinum, Japanese from Black 2
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Old November 1st, 2012, 07:51 PM
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Nice Pokemon, Gonzo! Glad to see some new people in these parts... I know I've been a bit MIA lately but I've been busy doing... these! I finally got RNGing down in my W2.


Cresselia ♀ Lv. 68
OT: Prim | ID: 7
Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
IVs: 31, 0, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dragon 68
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Future Sight, Slash, Moonlight, Psycho Cut
Non-Redis


Virizion ♁ Lv. 45
OT: Prim | ID: 7
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Justified
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 4, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Helping Hand, Retaliate, Giga Drain, Sacred Sword
Non-Redis


Genesect ♁ Lv. 15
OT: Plasma | ID: 10072
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Download
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 31, 31, 31 Dark 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Techno Blast, Magnet Bomb, SolarBeam, Signal Beam
Non-Redis

But, that's not the grand prize... I present... the first Dream Radar abused Pokemon on PC!


Landorus ♂ Lv. 40
OT: Prim | ID: 7
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Intimidate
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 13, 31, 31 Dark 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Bulldoze, Rock Throw, Extrasensory, Swords Dance
Non-Redis

Landorus! Woot! I am so excited... my coworker's boyfriend hooked me up with the Landy with his 3DS. n.n
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 01:00 AM
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Wow, that'd be great for you to get that down! And that's great of you to get the first Dream Radar Pokemon here...would you award yourself an emblem to brag about it? I'm also trying to nail it down...But I'm gunning for them to be shiny. Issue? I don't have two Chatot. So I can't do a thing...maybe I should just advance the RNG by saving? But I'm afraid that it would suddenly break the card's memory, knowing that those memory systems would get written for a long time...and it isn't volatile memory, which are known to be pretty resistant, knowing that the RAM is volatile memory. (GF already used it before for Gen I and II games...that didn't work, 'cause if the battery dies, the save file dies too.) For sure...I have a question...I want to nail a certain person's desire so I can get this person's Shiny Pokemon...this person wants a Rash Ditto. I have B2...and my memory serves...Ditto can only be found in Giant Chasm. Well...the problem is, I think that it's in the forest bit and it has weather that negates Sweet Scent, that's what I remember. So...I can't RNG it? Or can I? Thanks. Now I found out...Giant Chasm's Hidden Grotto can give me a Ditto too...and I can simply interact with it to obtain it...and it has its Hidden Ability! So I'd like to do so...But the issue is...I'd have to get it into the Hidden Grotto. Another issue: It's rare for Ditto to appear in the Grotto. Do I have to reset to find it by luck, or can I RNG abuse the Hidden Grotto? And...does the RNG abusing of the Ditto stay the same with other Shiny Flawless Pokemon? And something else...is that the only way to RNG abuse a Ditto in B2?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 09:30 AM
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ami the only one plays pokemon to have fun? and not go through pain staking pointless stuff like that. i dont even know what rng is and it sounds nerdy. i dc what nature is it or EV training it. i just train and get it to level 100. why do you guys try to kill the fun out of the game?
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 09:43 AM
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ami the only one plays pokemon to have fun? and not go through pain staking pointless stuff like that. i dont even know what rng is and it sounds nerdy. i dc what nature is it or EV training it. i just train and get it to level 100. why do you guys try to kill the fun out of the game?
This is fun to us, that's all. I love playing the game normally and then I like RNGing everything I possibly can. I'm a tinkerer... and to me this is tinkering and I find it quite enjoyable. To each his own, though.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 09:50 AM
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I "kill" the fun so that I can enjoy battling with the best of battlers worldwide. If you want to play normally, go for it, but don't say we're taking the fun out of it. If you ever decide to go to an official pokemon tournament, don't be surprised if you rank lower than 75% of other players. I'll just sit here and laugh.

And oh, by the way, don't bother going to the Pokemon Regional tournament that'll be taking place down in Florida in January. You'll never make it past 2 wins, and I'm allowing leeway on that guess.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 10:34 AM
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Fun is a relative concept, not just in Pokemon but in everything people do. While it may seem too difficult to be enjoyable for you, or too nerdy, it is indeed something that we enjoy. The only fun killing going on around here is when people try to bring down the things we enjoy or the people that enjoy them. :[

If you don't care about natures or even EVs, what do you even do after training something to lv100? Why is being lv100 the only part of training a Pokemon that matters, or the only part that is enjoyable to you? Having terrible lv100 Pokemon is not fun to me, but again fun is a relative concept.

Being able to tailor your team/Pokemon allows you to partake in parts of the game that you otherwise wouldn't be able to do, or at least enjoy.
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Old November 4th, 2012, 04:00 PM
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Ok, so Mac's been nagging me.... He taught me how to do somefin... and dat somefin is RNG id. I didn't actually abuse it so no real good will come of it prolly, but oh well.



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Old November 4th, 2012, 04:39 PM
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Nice one, Kiromomma!

I am AMAZED how polite you guys are to people who judge RNG while not giving a duck to check what RNG is actually. Chapeau bas. I hope he didn't kill your fun

Mac, just lemme get my iOS app emulator and imma get more DR Pokemon
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Old November 5th, 2012, 04:39 AM
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Gonz0, please give me a 3DS so I could use Dream Radar too...
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Old November 7th, 2012, 07:03 AM
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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:10 PM
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I am AMAZED how polite you guys are to people who judge RNG while not giving a duck to check what RNG is actually. Chapeau bas. I hope he didn't kill your fun
Be glad I'm late to the party, cause had I been first to reply to that, I would have been mean. XD I mean, it's silly to say "hey you're killing the fun" when what that person does probably kills the fun to someone else. I think using Repels and skipping trainers kills the fun...but I'm not gonna go tell the world that. Play the game how you want. :P

Now, while I'm here, what's the latest version of PPRNG? I got all my parameter info from my PC and made a document with it on my Mac, so I'm ready to start gradually ditching the thing (still has all my iTunes sob sob) and I'm ready to RNG again. -roars-
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Old November 7th, 2012, 01:34 PM
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The latest is PPRNG 1.14.4 http://bit.ly/rPXGyR (DL link included)

Good luck with PPRNG, I had the possibility to mess around with it, and it's really nice. It's also more stable and faster than RNG Reporter
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