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Fifth Generation Are Pokémon slaves to humans? Team Plasma thinks so. Travel the Unova region and prove them wrong in Black & White, hens return two years later in Black2 & White2.


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Old October 30th, 2012, 03:44 PM
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As an art student I might be a bit biased in this response, but realize that Ken Sugimori (the artist in charge of illustrating all species of Pokemon from its inception until now) is, deep down, just a human being. He was always very skilled, but as time passes and one gains more practice their technical skills improve. With this also tends to come a change in style. It's only natural. I've had friends who have seen drastic style changes in under a year because of great practice and skill improvement. Sugimori has been in the industry for over 15 years. His style has to change. If it didn't, he would actually be sacrificing technical skill; while it might not be very noticeable in the Pokemon, his gen 1 humans were incredibly stylized and very stiff. Now you can tell his grasp of more subtle muscle anatomy has improved, and the characters are more stylized while still maintaining a decent level of realism. Naturally, this would translate over to the Pokemon he draws as well. To think the art style would never change is wishful in almost all the wrong ways.
I appreciate your respond, but do note that I have never implied that I expected the art style to not change. I just dislike and disagree with his current style, is all.
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EDIT: In my opinion Gen I pokes were made for children under 10, Simple and "cute" designs.
Gen V's designs got a lot more complex(with the origins of the design) and are aimed at the teenage player. Just my opinion on the designs etc.
Let me be the first to say kids in this current generation generally prefer overcomplicated designs, not simple "boring" ones. Why do you think stuff like Bakugan, Skylanders and the like are popular amongst kids?

I see it as the opposite personally, as stuff like the MegaTen series that are geared towards more mature audience got more simplistic designs. Examples from said series: [1][2][3][4]
The simple yet inspired and imaginative designs full of personality are what I appreciate when it comes to series that involves "monsters".
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Old October 30th, 2012, 10:45 PM
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Let me be the first to say kids in this current generation generally prefer overcomplicated designs, not simple "boring" ones. Why do you think stuff like Bakugan, Skylanders and the like are popular amongst kids?
Good point. I never understood those bakugans.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 10:32 AM
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I think they look different from the other Gen pokemon is because Unova is in the other side of the world compared to the other regions.And the different habitats make them look different.

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Old October 31st, 2012, 12:23 PM
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...they look different from the other Gen pokemon is because...
But how can you tell they look different?

I mean, more different or different in different ways than any 2 from the same generation are different etc.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 01:06 PM
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It does depend on the region; Hoenn is based on a region in Japan that has a relatively tropical climate, thus a lot of the Pokemon are meant to look 'tropical' or unique, like Tropius, Kecleon, etc.

I think the current Pokemon just have a little more thought put into the design, not necessarily more complicated.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 01:28 PM
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But how can you tell they look different?

I mean, more different or different in different ways than any 2 from the same generation are different etc.
I mean that few pokemon from the first 4 Gens look similar to each other but From Unova i didn't see any similarities.But as AzaleaLightning said they gave more thought to this Gen's design so they look a bit "non-pokemonish" because the previous Gen pokemon didn't have so many details as this Gen's pokemon.idk :\
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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:04 PM
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To be blunt? Yes.

However, they're not the first. Like Nosepass, for example. I never thought that one looked like a Pokemon. Likewise for Budew. I'll probably think of some others for which I thought "That's a Pokemon?" So... it really isn't exclusive to Gen V, although Gen V just had the most instances of it.

So, to be specific: Only a few, like happens every gen. I get used to them. I still don't like Klinkang, Cofagrigus, or Vanilluxe, though, and probably never will. But I'm used to them, and have accepted them as Pokemon... even though I don't want to.
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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:50 PM
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Let me be the first to say kids in this current generation generally prefer overcomplicated designs, not simple "boring" ones. Why do you think stuff like Bakugan, Skylanders and the like are popular amongst kids?

I see it as the opposite personally, as stuff like the MegaTen series that are geared towards more mature audience got more simplistic designs. Examples from said series: [1][2][3][4]
The simple yet inspired and imaginative designs full of personality are what I appreciate when it comes to series that involves "monsters".
I don't know where you live, but Bakugan has never been popular over here in New Zealand. Skylanders is pretty popular here, but I wouldn't say anything to do with it is "Over-Complicated" Heck, I don't even think the new Pokemon are complicated in their design(they are more complex. For example, if you look at Pawniard and Bisharp, what would you think their design was based on, 99% of people wouldn't know) I just think the Pokemon are inspired by more
than just Animals.
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Old November 2nd, 2012, 12:29 AM
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EDIT: In my opinion Gen I pokes were made for children under 10, Simple and "cute" designs.
Gen V's designs got a lot more complex(with the origins of the design) and are aimed at the teenage player. Just my opinion on the designs etc.
Ya that also makes sense with how the games themselves had older protagonists, thus hinted to something for an older age group. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have tried to tackle the darker issues in B/W. ;( There's also the generation gap, too, because really, things like Trubbish etc (hinting towards pollution and stuff!), the world is becoming more obsessed with actual "things", rather than the simplistic things such as spending time with animals outside, or at least from what I've noticed as I've grown up.
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most of these pokemon are pretty poor looking and i think they are running out of ideas come on who wants to use an ice cream cone or bag of rubbish a lot of them think they should. the designs of most are pretty poor there are only a few that i like which makes it difficult to make a team when playing through these games think they should bring back the originals.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 06:44 AM
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most of these pokemon are pretty poor looking and i think they are running out of ideas come on who wants to use an ice cream cone or bag of rubbish a lot of them think they should. the designs of most are pretty poor there are only a few that i like which makes it difficult to make a team when playing through these games think they should bring back the originals.
It makes sense for people not wanting to use rubbish but an ice cream cone, well... there's nothing wrong with trying food, because it's pocket monsters and people trying to eat less food probably have nightmares about ice cream monsters? :x
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Old November 19th, 2012, 03:58 PM
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Ya that also makes sense with how the games themselves had older protagonists, thus hinted to something for an older age group. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have tried to tackle the darker issues in B/W. ;( There's also the generation gap, too, because really, things like Trubbish etc (hinting towards pollution and stuff!), the world is becoming more obsessed with actual "things", rather than the simplistic things such as spending time with animals outside, or at least from what I've noticed as I've grown up.
I agree with you Nica, I sorta knew something going with the Unova Pokemon designs.

Given the protagonists were older than in other games, the Pokemon also sorta looked like they were made to appeal the teenaged player. As hinted in a post above, the Kanto Pokemon were designed to be popular with kids.

Also, Unova has a lot of cute-looking and awesome Pokemon too. And with the complex designs it showed Pokefans that it took more than guessing to see what the origins of the Unova Pokemon were.
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Agreed with some people. Including with how there's like a Seedot, an Acorn. But I only use them for their stats, not their looks. Even though I made this thread a year ago.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 04:51 PM
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Agreed with some people. Including with how there's like a Seedot, an Acorn. But I only use them for their stats, not their looks. Even though I made this thread a year ago.
You've got a point there. There are only some Pokemon I hate for their stats and not their looks.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 04:59 PM
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You've got a point there. There are only some Pokemon I hate for their stats and not their looks.
Including Pikachu. I know that he's super cute and amazing, but he has a terrible stat makeup of Defenses and Attack and that he doesn't have that much kick butt moves. Hence is why I never use him, even Ledian. But some Pokemon I use that I kind of don't like but find it unique(Ferrothorn) comes in handy.
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