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View Poll Results: Which of these trainers will become champion of the Unova league?
Ash/Satoshi 11 23.91%
Trip/Shooty 2 4.35%
Bianca/Bel 1 2.17%
Stephan/Kenyan 0 0%
Kotetsu 2 4.35%
Virgil 6 13.04%
Iris (she isn't even entering!) 0 0%
Somebody Else We've Seen Before (like Montgomery/Masaomi) 0 0%
Some New Rising Rival Who'll Return in the Future 2 4.35%
Some Random Dude/Chick We'll Never Hear from Again 9 19.57%
Our Player Character! (Hilbert/Hilda/Nate/Rosa) 2 4.35%
Cheren (so that's what he's been doing this entire time...) 1 2.17%
Nobody- Team Plasma is going to step in and cancel the league, creating a new arc to keep Ash in Unova a little while longer. 6 13.04%
N (because he's N) 3 6.52%
Tobias/Action Replay Abuser 1 2.17%
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Old November 18th, 2012, 07:39 AM
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Eh 5 or 6 is a stench since episodes BW02 - 19 through 23 are already focused around the League. We already have 5 episodes so I doubt we will get too 10 especially the way they have been treating this region and league with small battles.

I don't get the feeling that two rivals will surpass Ash to fight it out in the finals. If anything I don't see any of them winning and some COTD wins.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 08:23 AM
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either team plasma is going to step in or ash is going to win
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Old November 18th, 2012, 08:30 PM
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Yeah but I don't see why TP would come out of the blue and just interrupt the league. Maybe it is the device the use to not completing the league or delaying it. But I think it would be a horrible way to do it since they didn't pick up on Plasma story since the essential episode cancellation. If they were going to introduce TP in a proper way I would have prefered they did it against TR during the Meloetta & Kami episodes.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 09:17 PM
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Hmm,It's hard to say at this point what they will be doing. It's hard to bealeve that Unova is only going to last a little more than 2 years with 2 theme songs. The past 3 sagas have had 3 themes and have lasted 3 to 4 years. Ash could win and he have to challenge the Elite 4 then they bring Team Plasma in. At the end of the first episode,Ash's mom says I wonder how grown Ash will be when he returns. Though that is a normal thing to say. Remember also that Iris is the Champion in BW2 which I am wondering if it will be linked at all in the Anime. All we can really do is wait. We don't really have much left to go on.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 09:55 PM
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Generally yeah its been about 4 years between gens and we have only been in this one half that, but if they want to start one by the end of near year they very well can so its not like the Saga is really over just the main Unova arc(depending on how they handle the league).

And Iris being Champ in BW2 has little to no bearing on what they do in the show. Iris not only just learned to control Dragonite, but she also lost to Drayden again. So I don't see here as Champ anytime soon, if anything Drayden mentioned her as Gym Leader(which will probably be the reason so won't be a continuing companion to whatever Region Ash goes to next). And if game Champs had any bearing Gary would be Champ since Blue was and Ash since Red beat Blue.

The way Ash team is made up I don't see him advancing too far. They seemed underdeveloped at this point. The only one that I see that could doing a lot if Krookodile which is from the sounds of it facing off against a Hydregion. If Ash had Emboar or evolved another one of his starters and than had Gigalith and Scrafty or Seismitoad then I may be a little more confident of his situation. But as his team stands its just so so.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 08:04 AM
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It's possible they'll build up to Plasma interrupting the league during the league, but considering how people reacted when they tried that with Tobias, maybe not.

Then again, the writers probably don't go on the internet to watch fans from outside the target demographic complain, so...
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If I were choosing I'd have an epic battle with Trip and Ash in the final, and Ash winning, but y'know, probably not going to happen. The "Ash winning the league" part, anyway, they might well have an epic battle between Trip and Ash, and Ash may well win (as he did with Paul in Sinnoh), but I don't think they'll let Ash win the league sadly would be a nice change and a REALLY nice surprise though.
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Old November 20th, 2012, 09:49 AM
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So Ash beats Stephan after the new names. But sounds like he might get beat by Kotetsu. Then again he could use Scraggy and defeat Hydregon.
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Kotetsu fights Bianca, but I can't tell if its before or after Ash's battle with Stephan and Kotetsu. If its before Stephan, than Kotetsu beats Bianca and battles Ash later, but we know Ash beats Stephan leaving Virgil for the possible winner or possible person to beat Ash and then lose to someone else.

If Kotetsu vs Bianca is after Ash and Kotetsu then Kotetsu beats Ash so Ash loses earlier in the Unova Conference than before. So either Ash gets knocked out early or Bianca does. If Bianca loses to Kotetsu and Ash faces off against the four Download Rivals, that explains why they are downloads.

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I really think Kotetsu is a mirror of Morrison,the one with the Metang,in Hoenn. Hydreigon might evolve during the battle and maybe Ash's Scraggy will.

Episode 767: Sawk Enters! Ash VS Stephan!
Episode 768: Ash VS Kotetsu! The Hydreigon Secret Weapon!!

Those are the names,so Kotetsu Vs Ash is after Stephan. I am really worried about that Hydreigon. But I think I was the same way with Metang evolveing. Even I hate Hydreigon ever sense Ghestis battle in White/Black 1. Not to mention Ash doesn't have any Ice and Dragon types this time around. Then again he is pretty good doing without advantages.
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Hydregion can't evolve cause Hydregion is the last stage.

This confirms a few things. First being that Ash beats Stephan and that Kotetsu beats Bianca(yeah sorry everyone that thought she would win). So this leaves Kotetsu and Virgil as known competitors?

As for his impending battle against Kotetsu Hydregion will indeed be a pain, but I think they will they will have it vs. Ash Krookodile which if you remember gained Dragon Claw when it fought Iris Dragonite upon evolving so I think that will be a good card to have.

Personally if Ash does lose I'd prefer it too Kotetsu instead of Virgil since I don't care for him too lose to a team of Eeveelutions...
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Hydregion can't evolve cause Hydregion is the last stage.

This confirms a few things. First being that Ash beats Stephan and that Kotetsu beats Bianca(yeah sorry everyone that thought she would win). So this leaves Kotetsu and Virgil as known competitors?

As for his impending battle against Kotetsu Hydregion will indeed be a pain, but I think they will they will have it vs. Ash Krookodile which if you remember gained Dragon Claw when it fought Iris Dragonite upon evolving so I think that will be a good card to have.

Personally if Ash does lose I'd prefer it too Kotetsu instead of Virgil since I don't care for him too lose to a team of Eeveelutions...
Ya,I was thinking that He had 2 headed dragon and it evolve into Hydregion. But will them saying it in the title,he probably already has it. I may have worded that wrong earlyer. And ya forgot Krookodile learned Drag Claw.
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Do the viewers even know Kotetsu has a Hydregion? His team only lists Riolu, Ferrothorn, and Samurott on Serebii and Bulbapedia. I think the title means that Hydregion IS Kotetsu's Secret Weapon.
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Also apparently Ash is going to be using Pignite during his battle with Hydreigon? So either Kotetsu is where it ends or something is going to happen in which Ash ends up victorious and battle Virgil. Maybe Pignite evolves into Emboar? I'm not sure.
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I have no idea how Kotetsu Vs Ash will turn out. I can see Ash winning and again I can see Ash losing. I have a really odd feeling about Virgil. I just started thinking, they are doing a lot of Eevee Promotions lately. I know Eevee is popular, but we don't usually get this many promotions focusing around Eevee.

Virgil may be our connection to the next game. I have an odd feeling that Virgil's Eevee may evolve in his battle against Ash/Kotetsu into a new Eeveolution. This is highly unlikely, I know, but I'm just finding the random addition of Eevee into the plot and a character who uses ONLY Eevee forms to be really wierd.

I think there may be more focus on Virgil as the tournament progresses further. Still think Ash will lose to Virgil if he wins against Kotetsu.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 03:29 PM
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Contains Ash and Kotetsu team.

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Contains info on the match.
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Ash why do you have seven Pokemon listed there. Especially one: you always have Pikachu and two: you use Pikachu in the match. I'm going to assume they are showing us Pokemon from both his match with Kotetsu as well as his match with Stephan.

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That said looking at the images it looks like Ash wins? Which means he'll likely be losing to Vergil. ..... or maybe Ash will actually be able to win a league for once. Guess we'll see that and whether people's predictions are correct and we see a new eeveelution. I'm guessing if we don't see a silhouette or anything during that episode's preview we're not getting one because they would obviously want to hype such a thing.

(On a side note: the three images in the spoiler don't seem to work. But I already saw the images on tumblr so I know what they contain haha.)
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Does he use Pikachu against Kotetsu?

Haven't seen the images. Can someone post non-broken ones?
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Apparently the pictures were taken down. They depict Pikachu facing Samurott and defeating it as well as Swanna and Ash beating Kotetsu. What I think funny is they show Ash Unzefant as a Male.

As for later on I definitely get the feeling he will lose to Virigil since all the other CoTD seem bland. If he beats Virigil than I could see him winning the whole thing.
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Here they are:

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Since Pikachu takes out two Pokemon I really have to wonder about that image. Also because guys, do you not have a female Unfezant image to show?

But yeah, I'll have to agree with that. Virigil is going to be that turning point on whether we see Ash actually possibly win or league or have it just be another loss.
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So Ash is gonna be up aginst Virgil now. I know someone said Bianca was beat early,but is there images like the others?
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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They only seem to be showing images like that for the battles we don't know the outcome of right when they announce more episodes. That said Bianca loses because she was facing Kotetsu and Stephan obviously loses because he faces Ash before Ash faces Kotetsu. So I don't think there are very many images of Bianca's match with Kotetsu.
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Well if Ash does beat Kotetsu as the images suggest,He will then face Vergil most likely. That leaves 1 more person he has to defeat. Maybe there will be another filler episode to introduce the last guy,if Ash defeats Vergil. It really would be nice to see Ash win for once,but remember he got in the top 8 two times in a row before getting in the top 4. They may do that again. I still wonder what the next Arc is going to be. I am almost 100% sure the next generation will not start for another year or so. I know we still have at least 1 more Gen 5 movie that comes out in March.
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I voted ash, but holy hell....it's hard to get behind a main character, when he keeps losing when it matters.....the dude keeps getting his experience reset in each region and that becomes annoying.

I know Pokemon is a business striving for longevity but HOLY CRAP ON A CRACKER, let the dude win a tournament and move onto the champions leagues ALREADY!!...they could make soooo much more money if they let him win the unova league and start a new journey where he travels the regions AGAIN, but this time battling the champions leagues!!.....from kanto to unova....

I SWEAR, if he doesn't win this time, I will drop kick my tv
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