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Old December 21st, 2012 (03:37 PM).
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this just maybe my personal opionon but i was just wondering if anyone else felt the same in black and white 2 it seems that Alder and Cynthia are weaker than in black and white. now that being said i know some one will say that alder is no longer them champ and cynitha is in the wrong region but still does anyone agree or disagree with me????

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Apparantly, you haven't fought Alder's PWT team, which is said to be harder than his usual team. As for Cynthia, her Garchomp is still a pain unless you wear it down (while hoping Dragon Rush's not-so-good accuracy is actived more often. The reason why they replaced her Milotic with Glaceon is because of Wallace, who uses it as his signature Pokemon. If you're talking about their levels in BW2 compared to BW1, I think GF wants the player to face them earlier, after beating Iris, to unlock some of the post-story's features (i.e. Black Tower/White Hollow).
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this just maybe my personal opionon but i was just wondering if anyone else felt the same in black and white 2 it seems that Alder and Cynthia are weaker than in black and white. now that being said i know some one will say that alder is no longer them champ and cynitha is in the wrong region but still does anyone agree or disagree with me????

Alder I never had problems with at all with my 2 pokemon but they made Cynitha weaker it seems in B2
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It normally depends on what type of pokemon you have really, Cynithia/Alder can be annoying if you aren't high leveled or don't have the right pokemon against them. I don't think they are weak since they do have powerful pokemon with strong moves.
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Old December 30th, 2012 (05:05 PM).
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cynthia didn't give me much trouble for my Virizion(that i got from a trade. he is lvl 82) the only bump was spiritomb because his only non fighting and non normal move is leaf blade. i haven't fought alder yet but i might when i get around to it.
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Old January 7th, 2013 (06:06 PM).
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Agreed, the Champions are fairly simple to fight. But, is it just that were so good now?
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Old January 7th, 2013 (07:23 PM).
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Agreed, the Champions are fairly simple to fight. But, is it just that were so good now?
You have a point there. We might have gotten strong enough during the game, to beat them with ease. As for the Champions, they were fought as much earlier stages, at your first elite four visit. That's just my thoughts.
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this just maybe my personal opionon but i was just wondering if anyone else felt the same in black and white 2 it seems that Alder and Cynthia are weaker than in black and white. now that being said i know some one will say that alder is no longer them champ and cynitha is in the wrong region but still does anyone agree or disagree with me????
Much stronger so quickly you have become, hm? Heavily training quite diligently you must be!

Yoda-speak aside, the original battle with the E4 is Lv.50 in B/W (N is Lv.52, Ghetsis is Lv.54). This is higher in B2/W2 [E4 and Champion top out at Lv.61, rematch is higher like in B/W). So my Yoda-speak is actually quite accurate here.

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Much stronger so quickly you have become, hm? Heavily training quite diligently you must be!
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That's what I was thinking I didn't really find Cynthia any different, maybe less pressure since if you lost you didn't have to re-face the Elite Four? I actually was a little disappointed by Alder, I never had trouble with him at all, though it was a nice try, Gamefreak, haha.
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You could call me a little obsessive about training. I like to have my party be at level 75 before taking on the E4+1. Makes it seem easy and I get to go around the region looking at things i otherwise skipped. Training for me seems fun (or am i just different :/) and thus the E4+1 always seem easy. Cynthia is always a challenge if you arent prepared, or if you flat get unlucky. Alder was sufficiently weakened in B2/W2 as A) he is no longer the champ and B) you get to challenge him on your own time, which appears to be the trend when weakening trainers in the series.
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However, his weakening could also be to emphasize the strength of Alder's "heir" in black city/white Forrest. His grandson(? check me on that) has the highest levels of pokemon in the game and is a tough match if you arent going at him with lvl100's. Could the "heir" play a role in upcoming games? twist...
My warped take and all this "weak" talk. pfft. Good Luck

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Old January 14th, 2013 (12:23 AM).
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You just have OP Pokémon... try to battle champs with 10 or 20 level Pokémon under them and you will see that they are not that weak
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Old January 14th, 2013 (06:55 PM).
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Its a matter of opinion, some are weaker than others but I found Cynthia pretty tough.
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