The PokéCommunity Forums  

Go Back   The PokéCommunity Forums > Pokémon Gaming > Fifth Generation
Sign Up Rules/FAQ Live Battle Blogs Mark Forums Read

Notices

Fifth Generation Are Pokémon slaves to humans? Team Plasma thinks so. Travel the Unova region and prove them wrong in Black & White, and then return two years later in Black2 & White2.


Advertise here

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1    
Old December 18th, 2012, 11:40 AM
HaloSonic's Avatar
HaloSonic
NOM NOM NOM
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: West Indies.
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Nature: Relaxed

Advertise here
I'm just wondering what do you think that Game Freak could've added into the game, which, while it has a lot of great fixes and additions, could have done a bit more to improve it from its predecessor.

1)
Spoiler:
Not Being able to fight your old character
the story continues from the previous game, and while I understand why they didn't put the old Player Character in the main storyline because of those who didn't own Black/White, they should've at least let you fight against your original BW Ghestis or Hall of Fame team (and appropriately scale levels), even as an extra battle after the story. the Cheren/Bianca fights are cool, but not enough.


2)Alternate costumes
I'll admit that the one feature that really is awesome for me is the PokeStar Studios, and making mini movies that you can affect the outcome is awesome. one thing they really could have added as an extra would have been to let your character use their movie costumes in the overworld, even if it looked silly (Princess Rosa wouldve been awesome!)

3) still can't swim!
y'know, you'd think after 15 years, they'd let the main character swim, even if its in shallow water. and considering how awesome the new water area looks, it would've been nice to swim a bit, maybe add some new mechanics to find hidden areas or something while you swim?

4) Dreamworld Blues
this is a minor one, but still gets my goat. if when you add a dream world pokemon to your party, the pokemon joins willingly, but while you capture them, why do they still shake in the pokeball as if they're struggling to get out?


well, that's my twopence on what they couldve done. what else do you think they couldve added/changed?
__________________

Good Bye Nintendo WiFi, you were fun. (my codes won't work anymore, so.... ya, hit me up on 3DS if you want dem trades.)

Last edited by HaloSonic; December 18th, 2012 at 03:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2    
Old December 18th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Azire's Avatar
Azire
Mr. Premier Ball
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Gender: Male
Nature: Naughty
I'm not sure this counts but it really bothers me that W2 is pretty much the same as W. This holds true for B and B2 as well. What I'm talking about is in regards to the Pokemon you can find and have to get from another game except one big issue.

You get Zekrom in White and Black 2.
You get Resgiram in Black and White 2.

While it is still a better idea to own the (2) version opposite of your previous version for Pokedex ease this will completely lock your legendary. Myself personally own White and Black 2 but get stuck with two Zekrom even though they are the best to own together when completing the pokedex alone. I guess this only matters if you're like me and prefer to be the OT of all your Pokemon.
__________________
Normal Safari: Kecleon, Lillipup, Ditto
(Ditto Unavailable Due To Restart)
Azire's Premier Pokémon
Please Leave A Review If We Trade
Trader Review Thread
Pairs: Champion Lunis
Reply With Quote
  #3    
Old December 18th, 2012, 01:49 PM
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude
Nyeh?
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
I would've liked to see trainers other than Hugh and Nate/Rosa with the Unova starters, just like how trainers other than Barry and Lucas/Dawn had the Sinnoh starters in D/P/Pt. It also would've been nice to see trainers with Buneary, Skitty, Vullaby and Rufflet, so that we're not forced to trade just to access the Nature Preserve.

Also, @OP: We still can't swim because we already have Surf to do that for us.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #4    
Old December 18th, 2012, 01:50 PM
Brendino's Avatar
Brendino
#fpt2014
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Colombie-Britannique
Age: 22
Nature: Quiet
This is one of the relatively minor things, but I wish that there would have been updated sprites for all of the characters that remained between B/W and B2/W2, not just a select few. The second gen games (and their remakes) updated all of the Kanto Gym Leaders among others to reflect the two year difference, and while we got people like Bianca, Cheren, Elesa and Iris with updated sprites, a number of others are completely identical. Again, a small thing, but it would have shown that a little bit of extra effort was put into the game.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5    
Old December 18th, 2012, 02:19 PM
HaloSonic's Avatar
HaloSonic
NOM NOM NOM
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: West Indies.
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Nature: Relaxed
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlatinumDude View Post
Also, @OP: We still can't swim because we already have Surf to do that for us.
man, surf is old news. even from the beach in RSE, I've felt my character could at least get to use an inner tube or something. they should do something about that. these are all rants of someone who's about to retire though, since Im stopping at BW2.
__________________

Good Bye Nintendo WiFi, you were fun. (my codes won't work anymore, so.... ya, hit me up on 3DS if you want dem trades.)
Reply With Quote
  #6    
Old December 18th, 2012, 02:29 PM
PeanutButterGamer's Avatar
PeanutButterGamer
Unhatched Egg
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
i wanted pikachu to be added but alas he wasn't ;_;
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7    
Old December 18th, 2012, 08:13 PM
~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~'s Avatar
~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
Buffalo State College
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Bronx, New York
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Nature: Bashful
Send a message via AIM to ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~
The only thing that I wish they have improved was giving a Pokemon White 2 and Pokemon Black 2 new sprites for the Pokemon, not for all of the Pokemon, but for the Pokemon that are in the Unova Pokedex for these two games. I honestly think gamefreak became lazy because some of these sprites are 4th generation.


TG
__________________

Friend Code: 3136-6961-3807 Friend Safari:Steel: Metang, Magneton and Klefi
Reply With Quote
  #8    
Old December 18th, 2012, 10:10 PM
Altairis's Avatar
Altairis
I'M ALL FIRED UP
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: database database
Gender: Female
Nature: Modest
Send a message via Skype™ to Altairis
They definitely improved postgame with the World Tournament, but I don't understand why they didn't go all out and include the 6v6 battle format (why... omg) and the Elite Four of each region, including Lorelei who kind of disappeared.

It would be kinda cool to fight my old character, but I would prefer an explanation as to where I've gone, since it seemed as if Unova was in a crisis and the old hero was unreachable, which is kind of unrealistic? I mean, where could they possibly be? It's kind of alright that the old hero didn't show up since I like to imagine what my character was saying and what kind of personality they'd have almost, and I'm sure that's the reason why. But more of an explanation would have been nice.
__________________
showdownfamilyanimegallery
Reply With Quote
  #9    
Old December 18th, 2012, 11:00 PM
Keiran's Avatar
Keiran
Moshtradamus
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: New Jersey
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
-I think they should have included more battle options for both PWT and Random Matchup. If you want to play Singles, you're stuck with 3 Pokemon (Doubles 4v4 and Triples gets 6v6). They should have let you choose the mode you want, and then #v# so that you're not pigeonholed into playing a specific metagame if you're not using a third-party battle finder.

-Secret bases. They made Hidden Hollows so it shouldn't have been hard to create a similar mechanic to make a base.

-Left Brycen's Gym open, along with the Striaton Gym, and allow you to battle them optionally. Although, the daily event in the Striaton Gym is good too.

-Let you grow your own patch of berries in-game, at the Ranch or something.
__________________
Mod of Trade Corner| Pair | Trainer Information

又 yltfos os kaeps and low 又
Wandering Allowed, Wondering Aloud
Reply With Quote
  #10    
Old December 18th, 2012, 11:35 PM
A Shadow's Soul's Avatar
A Shadow's Soul
Extra coated with nice hot syrup!
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Nottingham, England
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
Even though everyone loved the World Torny I didn't I just didn't ever go near it (apart from the forced storyline). Something about it just seemed wrong to me!

The gym leaders In BW2 were just sloppy, boring and so easy to beat!

Cheren - should of been the last gym, he was strong in BW then he has all weak pokemon.

Roxie - last gym in the anime, she should have been the 7th gym, her pokemon had some massive potential and failed hard.

Burgh - he was useless in BW so why they kept him in I will never know!

Elesa - Changed 1 pokemon and was still easy to beat, No challenge from gym leaders anymore!

and the list continues but I will not bored you with that,
Just to conclude, the gym leaders are getting sloppy and boring now, I know they are supposed to be 1 type only, but for me pokemon needs to change this and add in multi type gyms, not for all of them but for like the last 2, to make it harder and apply more skill.
__________________
No time to waste, but make your pace It's okay to remove copy and paste
I'm doing my way, you do it your way Don't just follow your left, find the right way.

~ Shihoko Hirata feat. Lotus - Beauty of Destiny ~
Hi I'm Adam ~ Showdown ~ VM ~ MyAnimeList ~


Reply With Quote
  #11    
Old December 18th, 2012, 11:41 PM
Hikamaru's Avatar
Hikamaru
the hamster
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Australia
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Nature: Quirky
I would have loved to seen Trainers not named Hugh and Nate/Rosa with the Unova Starters, like what happened with non-main characters having Sinnoh Starters in D/P/Pt, like what PlatinumDude said.

Also, I would love to have seen Secret Bases and Berry planting return to the games.
__________________


paired with AWsquared and Starry Windy
battle server | tumblr | profile | credit | supporter

Reply With Quote
  #12    
Old December 18th, 2012, 11:54 PM
Forever's Avatar
Forever
let it go
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: http://goo.my/server
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Bringing back those features in B2W2 would've seemed too random honestly. It seems like something you'd do at the start of the games, not at the sequels, plus R/S remakes are hopefully coming up so they're probably saving them for the remakes.

Nevertheless, I like who posted about the sprites. I'd love to have seen new animations for all the Unova mons :3

If anything I think B2/W2 had too many features and tried to outdo B/W too much and kind of failed at that, but that's irrelevant, really. ;(
__________________
I'm paired with and in love with Frizy ♥
Reply With Quote
  #13    
Old December 19th, 2012, 02:03 AM
Shucklulz's Avatar
Shucklulz
(◕‿◕✿)
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: California
Gender: Male
Nature: Sassy
Send a message via Skype™ to Shucklulz
I wish they brought back 6v6 Level 100 All Wi-Fi battles. I know that I could just adapt to there's Pokemon Online or VGC rules but... It just doesn't feel the same to me.

That's minor to me though. I really enjoyed the game overall.
__________________

theme: rain | tumblr
Reply With Quote
  #14    
Old December 19th, 2012, 06:30 AM
Twilight-kun's Avatar
Twilight-kun
Pokemon World Champion 2014-15
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The Champion's Room
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Nature: Naughty
Send a message via AIM to Twilight-kun Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to Twilight-kun Send a message via Yahoo to Twilight-kun Send a message via Skype™ to Twilight-kun
I miss the "Always run" option from HG/SS
as well as two key items on the bottom screen for quick access

should've kept HG/SS's bottom screen and implemented the C-Gear like the PokeGear

[QUOTE=Lapras*;7447232]It would be kinda cool to fight my old character, but I would prefer an explanation as to where I've gone, since it seemed as if Unova was in a crisis and the old hero was unreachable, which is kind of unrealistic? I mean, where could they possibly be? It's kind of alright that the old hero didn't show up since I like to imagine what my character was saying and what kind of personality they'd have almost, and I'm sure that's the reason why. But more of an explanation would have been nice.

The BW character was looking for N, and N was looking for them, so it looks like they missed each other, since N returned to Unova
Quote:
"In Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, much like Red's mother in Generation II and IV, she Touya/ko's mother] still resides in the same house and tells the player that her son/daughter is out in another region looking for N."
__________________
/

Last edited by Twilight-kun; December 19th, 2012 at 06:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15    
Old December 22nd, 2012, 08:45 PM
siiadams's Avatar
siiadams
Got 3DS back...1822-1106-0866
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Texas
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Nature: Quiet
One thing I'd like to see is a complete revamp of the gyms in the pokemon games. Throw out the single-type battles, already! One or two strong pokemon can wipe out a Gym Leader's entire team? That teaches nothing. How about having gym leaders use a specific battling technique and battle in different ways? For example, have one leader battle you whose specialty was status attacks, while another challenged you to a double or triple battle. It would make the battles more interesting and make you think more about strategy in different situations.


Posted from Pokecommunity.com App for Android
__________________
RPs I'm in:

Pokemon Training Academy - Shawn Williams (Sting *in box*, Cactuar, Zapper, Shiva, Pyra, Rocky, Crash)
Reply With Quote
  #16    
Old December 22nd, 2012, 11:03 PM
The Nightmare's Avatar
The Nightmare
"I fight for what I belive in"
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: The Nightmare world
Age: 15
Gender: Female
Nature: Quiet
They should have pokemon following you like in pokemon HG/SS all around Unova. I would normally be happy if they put bit more legendaries in the game including bonus stuff to do after you defeat the eilte four or the storyline, since you don't see Hilbert/Hilda in the game it's quite disappointing. The game is at least decent and fun.
__________________




Reply With Quote
  #17    
Old December 22nd, 2012, 11:11 PM
Tim09
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Gender: Male
I really, really dislike that not only can you not get berries anywhere except the dream world and a couple in game NPC's but you also have to do the dream world in order to get (dream world) abilities for your pokemon. The dream world is an annoying time sink that I don't want to be pressured to use.

We should be able to plant berries like in previous games or obtain them in a less complex format. I'd rather dream world abilities not exist or be obtainable without accessing the dreamworld (or trading). I played dream world a couple times for an hour each time and it really wasn't interesting. I don't think they accomplished bringing players together, but just made a cumbersome way of restricting valuble items (+abilities) to those willing to tolerate it.

I'd really like there to be an easier way to view individual values such as the pokemons summary page or perhaps an in game item. Something that gave you exact numerical values. It's not too difficult to use an online IV calculator to get close estimates but at this point I don't see why that should be neccessary. The pokemon charcteristics text doesn't go far enough in my opinion.
Reply With Quote
  #18    
Old December 25th, 2012, 07:25 AM
PlatinumDude's Avatar
PlatinumDude
Nyeh?
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Canada
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Hasty
Send a message via Yahoo to PlatinumDude Send a message via Skype™ to PlatinumDude
I'd like to add that the Battle Subway should have at least integrated the move tutor moves into the Subway 'mons because I felt that GameFreak was in a bit of a rush and just copy/pasted the Pokémon's move sets for the B/W Battle Subway on there.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #19    
Old December 25th, 2012, 03:30 PM
Pinkie-Dawn's Avatar
Pinkie-Dawn
I Am Become Death
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: California
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Nature: Quirky
Random Matchups should follow Smogon's Uber list to allow some non-uber event Pokemon to be used in our teams like Victini and Keldeo. Also, have us battle the original BW heroes, so they could bring the same relevance to the series as Red and have to a chance to appear in the next Smash Bros. to co-exist with him (more preferably the female hero: Hilda).
__________________
Credit goes to KhanadianDaleks of imgur for the gif
Reply With Quote
  #20    
Old December 26th, 2012, 12:55 AM
vaporeon7's Avatar
vaporeon7
My life would suck without you
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Preparing for trouble and making it double.
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
Send a message via Skype™ to vaporeon7
One thing that would have been nice would be if the C-Gear worked while the DS was in Sleep mode. It really annoyed me that I had to have it open to connect to anything. It would be much easier to connect with others if it did.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #21    
Old December 26th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Pingouin7's Avatar
Pingouin7
¬‿¬
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Hardy
Quote:
Originally Posted by iAzire View Post
I'm not sure this counts but it really bothers me that W2 is pretty much the same as W. This holds true for B and B2 as well. What I'm talking about is in regards to the Pokemon you can find and have to get from another game except one big issue.

You get Zekrom in White and Black 2.
You get Resgiram in Black and White 2.

While it is still a better idea to own the (2) version opposite of your previous version for Pokedex ease this will completely lock your legendary. Myself personally own White and Black 2 but get stuck with two Zekrom even though they are the best to own together when completing the pokedex alone. I guess this only matters if you're like me and prefer to be the OT of all your Pokemon.
That's true, though there was the Reshiram/Zekrom Wi-Fi event last March.
Reply With Quote
  #22    
Old December 26th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Ninja Caterpie's Avatar
Ninja Caterpie
Sitting by the back window
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Best City OCE
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Nature: Bold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinkie-Dawn View Post
Random Matchups should follow Smogon's Uber list to allow some non-uber event Pokemon to be used in our teams like Victini and Keldeo.
yes, but... those change, lol.
__________________
Brony represent.
Reply With Quote
  #23    
Old December 29th, 2012, 08:53 AM
☆aqua☆'s Avatar
☆aqua☆
Ace Trainer!! :p
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Under your bed
Gender: Female
Nature: Sassy
squirtle actually agrees with everything u pointed out (especially the first one and the pokewood costumes!!)

Squirtle thinks they should get rid of c-gear. it seems a little useless.
Squirtle liked the bottom screen in heartgold and soulsilver and think you should be able to put your running shoes and have the option to run without pressing b.
Squirtle also liked the vs seeker and thinks that should be included or registering trainers on the live caster.
they should also rename the town map to ">region< map" (i.e. unova map) and add a key item for type effectiveness (like a chart or something).
squirtle also wanted to have the pokemon follow you

Honestly, Squirtle likes BW2 but thinks the originals are better :/
__________________
I'm not a rapper
Reply With Quote
  #24    
Old January 5th, 2013, 04:15 PM
HaiImNate's Avatar
HaiImNate
Ice Cream
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Gender: Male
Nature: Jolly
I agree with all four or those! I wish that Black/White 2 would have in some way have connected more to your previous adventure. I wish that oyu could have battled your former self, and could have some way associated with the gym leaders that were in Black/White for help. Team Plasma was the same, but still.

This isn't a big dissapointment for me, but yeah more customization would have been nice. It would be cool to change the skin on your pokedex and your outfit. That wouldn't be that hard of a feature to add, and I wish that Gamefreak had done that.

I think that allowing a trainer to swim would be dumb. If your trainer is swimming, then where would they put their bags and Pokeball and things? I think that having a trainer to swim would mess up the HM system as well.

Yeah, I never thought about or noticed this, but it is disappointing.


Changes I think that should've happened to improve the game:

More interaction with the media. Although I liked that you could watch Tv and they had announcements on places that you can go to catch wild Pokemon, I wish that there would be announcements to places where you could go to experience new festivals. Also, aybe there could be a weekly, daily, or even monthly magazine that would say what's going on in the Pokemon world and would change your adventure. I think that would be cool as well.

More interaction with holidays. I wish that you could find a rare Pokemon on holidays, or that there were special items that you could receive on holidays. Kind of like Animal Crossing.

More to do with memory link! It was a cool idea for GameFreak to add a Memory Link feature to Black/White 2, but I wish there had been more that you could see and more that you could do! It's cool to be able to battle Cheren and Bianca and all, but you still don't really understand everything that happened between Black/White and Black/White 2. I just wish Gamefreak would have added more.

DLC. DLC such as new trainers costumes and pokemon costumes would be nice, even if for a monetary fee. More memory links sequences via DLC would provide much profit to Gamefreak as well.
Reply With Quote
  #25    
Old January 5th, 2013, 06:31 PM
PokeTeckers's Avatar
PokeTeckers
Unhatched Egg
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: US
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Nature: Relaxed
I like most of these ideas.

I also agree with people saying they are taking forever in making some really needed changes to these games.

But give em some time people, after all we've already been fans for 15+ years.

I think this thread is about changes that could have been easily made to the individual games, not the entire series itself.

That being said.
I really like the idea to be able to use the memory link to battle your old character from BW, at least the pokemon recorded in the Hall of Fame. That would have been EPIC!

I also think the PokeDex was a bit confusing, it's the first time I was able to catch multiple pokemon from previous Gens right from the start. Before it was only a few, if that. I think it was just a bit overwhelming for me, call me weird; I guess I'm just really used to the older games.

All in all the game was great. Graphics are like never before, and I really think Nintendo is on the right track.

Who knows? Perhaps we'll see a Ruby / Emerald remake followed by an epic 6th Gen in the new 3ds!
Reply With Quote
Reply
Quick Reply

Sponsored Links


Advertise here
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Minimum Characters Per Post: 25



All times are UTC -8. The time now is 08:17 PM.


Style by Nymphadora, artwork by Sa-Dui.
Like our Facebook Page Follow us on Twitter © 2002 - 2014 The PokéCommunity™, pokecommunity.com.
Pokémon characters and images belong to The Pokémon Company International and Nintendo. This website is in no way affiliated with or endorsed by Nintendo, Creatures, GAMEFREAK, The Pokémon Company or The Pokémon Company International. We just love Pokémon.
All forum styles, their images (unless noted otherwise) and site designs are © 2002 - 2014 The PokéCommunity / PokéCommunity.com.
PokéCommunity™ is a trademark of The PokéCommunity. All rights reserved. Sponsor advertisements do not imply our endorsement of that product or service. User generated content remains the property of its creator.