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Old November 21st, 2012, 11:10 PM
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I haven't exactly used any Pokemon that have become a hindrance for my team, but if I had to choose, it would have to be grass-types. I've used grass-types such as Bellsprout in GSC before and in time found them to be quite not what I had in mind for a good team. Since I focus more on all-out powerful, fast, offensive Pokemon and grass-types aren't what you'd call offensive - they play more of supporter roles, they did little to help me. This is what I think.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 04:36 AM
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I haven't exactly used any Pokemon that have become a hindrance for my team, but if I had to choose, it would have to be grass-types. I've used grass-types such as Bellsprout in GSC before and in time found them to be quite not what I had in mind for a good team. Since I focus more on all-out powerful, fast, offensive Pokemon and grass-types aren't what you'd call offensive - they play more of supporter roles, they did little to help me. This is what I think.
Bellsprout was suckish in the earlier Gens. Grass Types were very weak at the time, lack of moves, Giga Drain was very weak and had little HP yet a lot use it. My team consists to good Pokemon with a good enough speed and movesets. But in Wi-Fi battles, I use a range, it doesn't matter by speed.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 06:34 AM
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Err, yeah, I know how to play the game. Speaking of Ferrothorn, I did fine with that in-game as well. You can use whatever you want in-game and of course, it's not gonna work for everyone, but it might work for someone else. I mentioned Zebstrika being awful and I remember reading a post once where someone enjoyed using it. Different strokes for different folks.
Well the game is easy enough that thankfully use your favorites, bar things like Delibird. Doesn't discount the fact that Umbreon is pretty bad relatively no matter how you slice it.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:06 AM
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I don't have any specific Pokemon in mind, but usually if they can't learn any HMs and have a pretty poor movepool then I won't bother with them. Also if the stats aren't up to par then it's questionable, I'm trying to use Delcatty on my post-E4 White 2 team but... if you know Delcatty's stats then you know my predicament lol.

Oh oops already posted in this thread ;( Ah well at least I added some.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:44 AM
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I swear Zebstrika is so weak and I hated his movesets. And Ferrothron is strong though, I used him in Random Matchup and his Curse and Leech Seed attack makes him more difficult to defeat. EV trained him in Attack and Defense.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:47 AM
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I loved Azurill's design but it was so weak when I tried to use it that I had to drop it. >_o
Azurill itself is difficult to work with at first, but it has great potential assuming it has Huge Power. My Azumarill is the single greatest member of my Black 2 team. Not even other Water-types are safe after a couple of Work Ups, and she has great survivability with naturally high HP and Leftovers + Aqua Ring.


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And for me, I think it is a Dunsparce. It is a Normal-type and has a horrible speed including a bad movepool. I never use it on any Pokemon game.
If you only value speed and offence, that is unfortunate. It gets a variety of moves which compliment its relatively high HP stat.


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Old November 22nd, 2012, 06:53 PM
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I used a Ariados is a run of HG one time, sucks so badly, i would try as hard as i vould to get it in battles but its only half decent use was poisoning cause of its terrible movepool, i had a Sunflora on the same team with it and no lie it was 10x more useful than the ariados.
I also consider Foretress extremely useless in game. No decent moves, only good defensively, I was so bored and annoyed with it i traded in a Vibrava before the elite four to take its place.
Emolga, Swoobat, and Maractus have to be the most useless gen 5. I thought with emolga being so rare it would be worth training, but it has no use, only good speed but that didn't matter cause of the defence. Swoobat, used that in the frst play of Black. Didn't do anything, i replaced it with Mandibuzz late game, just as worthless.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 06:58 PM
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Ditto. Apart from breeding, it can only learn one move, and it's not even that good unless the Pokemon you're transforming into has a move that's effective against itself.

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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:05 PM
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I used a Ariados is a run of HG one time, sucks so badly, i would try as hard as i vould to get it in battles but its only half decent use was poisoning cause of its terrible movepool, i had a Sunflora on the same team with it and no lie it was 10x more useful than the ariados.
I also consider Foretress extremely useless in game. No decent moves, only good defensively, I was so bored and annoyed with it i traded in a Vibrava before the elite four to take its place.
Emolga, Swoobat, and Maractus have to be the most useless gen 5. I thought with emolga being so rare it would be worth training, but it has no use, only good speed but that didn't matter cause of the defence. Swoobat, used that in the frst play of Black. Didn't do anything, i replaced it with Mandibuzz late game, just as worthless.
I don't agree with Forretress. Its Bug Bite attack(the only good Bug Type attack it can get of his moveset) is very good. Its low speed gives its Gyro Ball attack massive power towards fast opponents.

It sets out good entry hazards like Spikes and Stealth Rock. Its very sturdy with Defense, good with Attack along with its Light Screen and Reflect walls. Vibrava doesn't make much a difference if you replaced it. You should've kept Forretress and don't judge it for its Speed and learnset when you got a powerhouse.

Ariados isn't that bad considering the learnset and stats. Yes Swoobat is annoying and useless and the others you mentioned.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 08:28 PM
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magikarp lol i think that's the point to get you to evolve it. it doesn't help that gyarados had flying tacked on to it when it can only learn 1 flying type move, its just more vulnerable to electric attacks.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 09:55 PM
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Dunsparce. I didn't even know that thing existed until recently. It's useless, and i'd never have on on my team. Ever.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:16 PM
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I'd have to say unown and that spiny ear pichu. I love the spiny pichu, but as far as I know the stats aren't great and you cant transfer it into gen 5.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 12:27 PM
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I usually check pokémon on bulbapedia before deciding to use it because I haven't watched all of the anime and don't have much info about newer pokémon. I always stay away from anything that has a 4x weakness. Shellos is an example. It's evolved form Gastrodon might be strong but gets OHKOed by almost any grass attack.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 07:54 PM
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What pokemon do you consider ugly. It's what's inside that counts!(a.k.a. stats, movepool, lol)
Sometimes I don't like a pokemon design but like thier idea origin or something like that, then I start to like it.
But really even if a pokemon have massive stats and awesome movepool I simply can't use it because I don't like it. s:

Pokemon I consider the most ugly:
Marmatinian family, Amoongus family, Mr Mime, Porygon family, Jynx, Magmortar, Heatran, Rhyperior, Hippowdon, Hariyama, Pinsir, Qwilfish, Nosepass family, Azumarill family, Lickilicky, Loudred, Drownzee, Pignite, Emboar... Yup, I guess they're the pokemon that would never exist in my team and neither any of my boxes.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 07:57 PM
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Magcargo. I thought it was a pretty cool poke but i was wrong. One of the worst fire types after Flareon.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 09:34 PM
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Every time I got a free Eevee I boxed it. Stones were hard to come by in Johto and the other times it took awhile to learn any moves that weren't normal or Bite.
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Old November 26th, 2012, 02:31 PM
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Zubat. Though that may just be because I get so tired of fighting a billion zubats in every cave. I have been thinking about trying a Team Rocket play through of Blue though. (Rattata, Koffing, Ekans, Zubat, etc.)
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Old November 29th, 2012, 09:13 PM
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I caught a ralts and I evolved it to Kirlia, and at that point, even weaker attacks would WHKO her...and she was the strongest pokemon on my team >.> (Sapphire)
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Old November 30th, 2012, 04:41 AM
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Before I knew anything about competitive strategies and all of that jazz, I found Smeargle to be the weakest gimmick of all time. That and Ditto.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 08:29 AM
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I actually find the Ralts family to be pretty useless. I tried to finish a single-Pokemon playthrough of Emerald with only a Gardevoir, but it learns NOTHING but Psychic-type attacks when leveling up and isn't compatible with that many TMs, plus its Defense and regular Attack are pretty bad. I had to renege and keep my Torchic in my party (which I eventually had to level up to a Blaziken because there were so many Dark-type Pokemon [and other strong ones for which Gardevoir wouldn't cut it] that I had to fight over the course of the game).

The Snivy family would also work. A garbage movepool is acceptable for a pretty weak Pokemon overall, but not for a starter.

Same with the Ponyta family (again, movepool - this also goes for many other Fire- and Electric-type Pokemon), most Ground/Rock Pokemon (Water- and Grass-type attacks are an obvious choice and quite common, plus most Ground/Rock-types have awful Special Defense), and all of the final dragon families (Dratini, Larvitar, etc. - they're strong, but not that strong considering how long they take to level up and evolve).

There are some Pokemon I found to be criminally overlooked, though, and very useful to me, such as Electabuzz (even before being an Electivire), Jynx, Porygon2, Dusclops, Poliwrath, Butterfree (most people seem to ditch it after beating Brock in Kanto if they picked Charmander), Claydol, Lapras, Scrafty, and Heracross.

It seems like the only Pokemon anyone uses competitively anymore are starters, legal legendaries (birds, dogs, Regis, etc.), final dragons, Milotic, Gengar, Staraptor, Machamp, Steelix, and Gardevoir. Kind of annoying, really.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 09:30 AM
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I would say Ditto. Unless you're planning to EV train it's HP, anything you do to train it will be pretty much useless since it copies every single stat of the other Pokemon except for the HP.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 09:49 AM
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Because I usually decide which Pokemon to use for my team based on the internet, the only I used in-game I would considered not worthy of use are Liepard and Unfezant. Liepard's level-up movepool stinks, as well as its frailness, and Unfezant doesn't learn any good physical Flying moves that isn't Fly.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 06:27 PM
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I'm hard-pressed to think of any pokemon that are simply useless. There are many that struggle a bit, mostly due to low stats, poor movepools or both - Plusle and Minun, Ledian, Spinda, Purrloin.... But even those aren't entirely useless - they're just a bit tougher to work with. There are others that can be sort of useless in battle - like Ditto or Smeargle - but are immensely useful in other ways. I like to figure out ways to use the unlikely ones, and generally can find a way, and when it works out, I actually much prefer using them - ubers are boring. Yeah - there are some who are so poor that I don't want to invest the necessary time and effort to get something out of them, but that doesn't mean that they're useless - just that I'm not that interested in using them at the moment.

And that said, some of the answers here have really surprised me - a few pokemon mentioned who are quite decidedly anything BUT useless - but... I should just leave it at that.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 05:28 AM
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For me there are no real useless Pokemon if you have some skill a little patience and a dash of luck, any Pokemon can be useful, there are however Pokemon that i consider bad. I have decided to list the top 5 bad Pokemon below:

Snivy evolutionary line, now i am a big fan of the theory that starter Pokemon have to be in your team at least until you become champion of the region and until generation 5 i have found that every starter Pokemon even Meganium (I hate Meganium) have been able to stand on there own and generally fight Pokemon 2-3 levels higher than them and usually win. Now I have started the game with Snivy and found it to be the worst starter Pokemon in Pokemon history. It is just bad especially early in game.

Purrloin evolutionary line, what a useless Pokemon, I have used this Pokemon 3 times and It is just bad it gets beaten by almost everything it is just no good, I do not recommend it to anyone.

Hoppip evolutionary line, Now this is a Pokemon i have given numerous chances to cause im not going to lie i kinda for some unknown reason find it cute, however this evolutionary line is just bad even at its finally stage it has mediocre stats which I could tolerate but throw in a a mediocre move pool and that to me equals bad Pokemon.

Miltank, I find this Pokemon not only bad but annoying, i think there is something in the games code that makes Whitney's Miltank really strong and hard to beat but any Miltank in your possession utterly useless i have used this Pokemon a few times in the past and i follow the same basic idea of Whitney, Attract, Rollout, Body Slam and Toxic. and despite having good stats it just does not hold up against other Pokemon.

Kricketot evolutionary line,enough said really just a bad Pokemon in general
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Old December 29th, 2012, 05:53 AM
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I don't really have one. Used to be Zubat, but then I actually tried using him, and he's become the main asset of my team! Now a Crobat!
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