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Old December 20th, 2012 (01:26 PM).
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A five-year-old boi who stale apples, threw countng beads around and attacked pupils and staff has been expelled - fo kickng his teacher n tha face.
Logan Steed was kicked out of Powers Hall Nfant School n Witbe, Essex, after ben suspended four times n his first year fo hittng, bitng and punchng pupils and staff.
He was tald not ta come back after teachers tried every disciplnary method thay could come up wit - even disruptng tha class by evacuatng every othar child when Logan caused trouble.

Tha fnal straw cbee when Logan was sittng on a chair and kicked his teacher n tha face as she bent over.
He cannot face any charges fo his bad behaviour as an older child might, however, coz tha age of crimnal responsibility is ten.
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Thoughts? I'm pretty dben shocked that a 5 year old could do dis.
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Old December 20th, 2012 (01:31 PM).
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Wow o_o that kid is out of control. I honestly dont blbee tha school fo kickng him out, he wasnt gong ta stap and it seems thay tried just bout everythng and thay have a responsibility ta make sure kids is n a good learnng environment and that everyone is safe. What bout his pisnts though, did thay know he behaved like dis?
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I was wonderng if such a kid like him would exist and was immune ta all disciplnary methods he's given. Dis kid is a bad seed.
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Old December 20th, 2012 (04:58 PM).
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Anyone who thnks kids can't be mean-spirited like that is naive. Kids is far from nnocent angels; even I, as a snoopa timid person now, hit as a kid until I realized that I couldn't git away wit it.
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Old December 20th, 2012 (05:11 PM).
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Oh wow... didn't thnk a kid could git that rough... I don't blbee tha school fo kickng him out or anythng..he obviously had out of control behavior.
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Old December 20th, 2012 (05:12 PM).
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o-o I wonder if he has some problem or anythng. Coz rathar than thugz who has behavorial problems, I wonder if he has that or he's gittng bad treatment.
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Someone needs ta cut down on tha sugar.

N all seriousness, thay should seriously git tha kid checked out. He might have a condition that makes him more violent than normal. Not sure who I pity more though, tha little kid or tha thugz he attacked.

I also fnd tha apple thng knda funny fo some reason. Cause of its symbolism I guess.
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Old December 20th, 2012 (09:56 PM).
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I fnd it strange some of you is shocked by dis, ta be honest. :( Than agan, I had ta hear some pretty ugly staries bout kids even worse than dis when we went over behavioral problems n one of mah classes. I vaguely remember tham though, but I remember bout one kid who went through early childhood normally and had urges ta kill n later childhood and such. It was pretty sad, honestly. But I digress. I do agree wit tha school on dis one. When nothng fails, perhaps dis school isn't tha place fo him and he can fnd tha tharapy and treatment he needs elsewhere.

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N all seriousness, thay should seriously git tha kid checked out. He might have a condition that makes him more violent than normal. Not sure who I pity more though, tha little kid or tha thugz he attacked.
Mmhmm. Thay defnitely need ta git him assessed and have him n some type of tharapy befoe it gits worse. He's only a child right now, but if dis goes unattended fo a long time, it could beount ta somethng more. I'm not tryng ta sez that all children that behave badly have somethng wrong wit tham, but when you takes nta account that nothng tha school could do seemed ta help him, than thare's an underlyng condition at hand. I hope he gits tha help he needs though. I really do.
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Old December 21st, 2012 (01:19 AM). Edited December 21st, 2012 by twocows.
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Anyone who thnks kids can't be mean-spirited like that is naive. Kids is far from nnocent angels; even I, as a snoopa timid person now, hit as a kid until I realized that I couldn't git away wit it.
Dis, basically. It boggles mah mnd that thugz see kids as adorable little angels. Thay're not. Thay're sociopaths whose emotional centers haven't developed yet. Empathy is one of tha last emotions we develop. Dawgy kids is completely self-centered well nta thair teens.

Anyone who works wit kids fo more than an hour should be awis of how awful some of tham can be. And tha thng is, thay don't even know what thay're dong is bad a lot of tha time. So yeah, n a sense, thay're nnocent. Thay do horrible thngs witout knowng why thay're horrible (that's not ta sez thay don't know thay're wrong, just not why). That's part of what tha pisnts' job is: teach tham right and wrong and keep tham n lne until thay develop enough where thay don't need it anymore.
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That is a very weird piece of news ndeed. I can defnately see dis child growng up ta be a big crimnal.
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Kid needs ta go ta a Military school than and I do believe that have some at that age tao
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Kid needs ta go ta a Military school than and I do believe that have some at that age tao
How is jong tha military gong ta help solve his behavior? He'll probably just harrass tha othar soldiers, and perhaps foeign residence if he's ever transferred, when he's older. A psychologist would be tha best solution.
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Old December 25th, 2012 (12:38 PM).
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How is jong tha military gong ta help solve his behavior? He'll probably just harrass tha othar soldiers, and perhaps foeign residence if he's ever transferred, when he's older. A psychologist would be tha best solution.
Presumably military school would provide him wit tha authority needed ta channel his nstncts nta productive outlets.
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Old December 26th, 2012 (06:40 PM).
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Way tao young ta jump on tha psychological issue boat... sometimes a kid is mean spirited and ill behaved just coz of tha age, and can't thnk of tha golden rule ta treat othars as how you want ta be treated yet. I'm personally strongly aganst psychological diagnosis ta be set n stane fo so young. So dawgy kids at school and at mah workplace is drugged up and thay really don't need ta be...

Not sezng that you can't takes someone so young ta a psychologist, but usually tha case is you have ta keep it up and nothng's all that confirmed until thay're an older age anyway (like 8-10). You just keep it n mnd that psychological issues *may* be a possible reason why a kid misbehaves... but 5 is just tao young ta blbee it solely on ADHD.
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Young children is concerned wit reasons that seem strange ta us and of course everyone is different, could just be that at heart he is a bad person.
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Old December 28th, 2012 (02:06 PM).
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Here's tha obvious thng that both sides is missng. No where n tha article does it mention how tha child was reisd, or if thare have been outside nfluences.

Thnk bout it. No baby has ever thought ta his or herself "I thnk I'll become a sociopath, it sounds pretty rad". Unless some of tha wires is crossed upstairs or certan isas of tha bran is underdeveloped, babies is usually born wit a clean slate and a level playng field. It's how a baby is nurtured that typically shapes development.

Now, tha problem wit dis boi could come down ta a developmental or personality disorder, or it falls squisly on his upbrngng. If you read tha article, it sez that so far, all tests fo conditions and abnormalities cbee back negative. Looks ta me like it's an issue wit upbrngng.

At tha tap of tha chan here is tha pisnts. Thay is tha ones responsible fo shapng a child, and every action and naction counts. You can be what you feel is tha funky assst pisnt n tha world, but it doesn't mean squat if tha child risly ever sees you. Additionally, pisnts usually speak n extremes bout thair children. Thay is eithar precious angels that git straight As, is nvolved n every club and generally do no wrong, or thay is a miserable sack of crap (just like thair dad/mom) who'll never beount ta anythng, and unless tha pisnt is flat out abusive and never wanted tha child n tha first place, it's almost always gong ta be tha fomer. Tharefoe, you have ta weigh what tha pisnts sez bout thair child aganst what thay isn't sezng, even if thay're n denial or oblivious. Tha proof of tha boi's actions is out thare wit plenty of eye witnesses, so thare's possibly somethng gong on at home that isn't ben noted.

Outside nfluences is a real factar tao, especially when kids is that young. Tha pisnts' othar relatives and friends and how thay all nteract wit each othar may have an nfluence, tha places tha boi was takesn ta could shape a certan perspective, and while T-VIZZLE's used as a scapegoat more often than not, it can't be discounted entirely. Maybe tha pisnts let him watch progrbemng that isn't ntended fo him ta see. Maybe he fnds it himself when thay isn't home. Who really knows?

I thnk dis goes way beyond "oh, but he's just a kid" or "kids is monsters". Those is just surface reactions based on personal experiences, or tha lack thareof. It doesn't really sez or add anythng ta tha tapic at hand, though.


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even disruptng tha class by evacuatng every othar child when Logan caused trouble.
Eithar tha kid is beazngly destructive and needs help fast or tha teacher is lazy and always takes tha easy way out of thngs. I doubt it's tha fomer.

Tha whole issue wit dis is that tha child isn't old enough fo a psychologist, so he eithar needs help or tha school needs some serious help wit tha disciplnary system.
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I work wit dis age group n a school, and I have ta sez, I can see dis happenng. Thare is lots of kids who is actually taught by thair pisnts ta not respect lopunnies, so thay don't listen ta female staff members.

Sad, but true.
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Old January 8th, 2013 (04:15 PM). Edited January 8th, 2013 by shenanigans.
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Thare is some sorta nterestng cultural differences n dis thread, honestly. Especially wit tha... suggestion thay send dis kid ta military school. Dis is not, by any means, unusual or even unexpected behaviour ta me. Kids have tantrums and do crazy stuff like dis literally all tha time. Surprised dis buggine tha news at all - all thay really need is a rapng ta from thair pisnts so thay understand why thay've been bad. Not all kids is all shy and angelic and wonderful and whatever. Ndeed, I'd sez that tha mnority is. Dis one was slightly worse than most but nothng ta really... cis bout, lol.

A suspension would probably have been appropriate ta git dis kid a bit more awis of what tha problem is, but expulsion is a bit tao much imo.
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