Competitive Team Questions (and Incomplete Team Help)

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by Dragonmage

Special Sweeper-Magnezone
-Thunderbolt
-Magnet Rise
-Flash Cannon
-Signal Beam
EV:
152 HP
252 SAtk
100 Spd

Physical Wall-Carracosta
Item: Chesto Berry
-Aqua Jet
-Ancient Power
-Ice Beam
-Rest
EV:
200 HP
52 Atk
252 Def

This is the start of my tournament team. I'm thinking of adding in a Blissey as a special wall, and Scizor as a baton passer. Any suggestions (other pokemon to use, builds, etc)?

Magnezone could theoretically use Magnet Rise to avoid Ground moves, but Air Balloon is a more reliable alternative:
-Substitute
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Charge Beam
-Flash Cannon/Charge Beam
Nature: Timid
EVs: 36 HP/252 SAtk/220 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon
Ability: Magnet Pull

or
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
-Flash Cannon
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe (Timid) or 148 HP/252 SAtk/108 Spe (Modest)
Item: Choice Scarf (Timid)/Choice Specs (Modest)
Ability: Magnet Pull

Carracosta's bad defensive typing makes it unsuitable as a physical wall, but it has Stealth Rock as a support option. Its Attack is better than its Special Attack, so the latter stat is rarely used. It also makes a decent Shell Smash sweeper:
-Stealth Rock
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Aqua Jet/Stealth Rock
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/252 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock

or
-Shell Smash
-Waterfall
-Stone Edge
-Aqua Jet/Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: White Herb

But then again, Gliscor is a better physical wall because of its good defensive typing in conjunction with Poison Heal:
-Substitute
-Toxic
-Protect/Taunt/Roost
-Earthquake
Nature: Impish
EVs: 244 HP/28 Def/236 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal

or
-Earthquake
-Taunt/Toxic
-Toxic/Ice Fang/Stealth Rock
-Roost/Protect
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal

Scizor is better off scouting or KOing things outright rather than Baton Passing. Baton Passing can be done better by Ninjask or Smeargle:

Scizor:
-U-turn
-Bullet Punch
-Superpower
-Quick Attack/Pursuit
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 248 HP/252 Atk/8 Spe
Item: Choice Band
Ability: Technician

or
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Brick Break/Superpower
-Bug Bite/Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Technician

or
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite/Superpower
-Roost
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/40 Atk/216 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Iron Plate/Metal Coat
Ability: Technician

Ninjask:
-Substitute
-Protect
-Baton Pass
-Swords Dance/Toxic
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/236 Def/24 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Mental Herb
Ability: Speed Boost

Smeargle:
-Spore
-Shell Smash
-Baton Pass
-Ingrain/Taunt
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 80 Atk/96 Def/80 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo

[vapes]

Originally Posted by Ash493

More than stats as global, EVs and preferably IVs would help in deciding.
Bold is a good nature so in that field it's pretty good.

IV's in order
HP: 31 Atk: 3 Def: 26 Sp Atk: 9 Sp Def: 12 Spd: 28

EV's
HP: 252 Atk: 0 Def: 200 Sp Atk: 0 Sp Def: 52 Spd: 0

Hopefully that helps. I really do like Vaporeon as a water type, and I really want to use on a competitive team

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

Moveset needs work. Acid Armor is only good for Baton Pass sets:
-Wish
-Protect
-Scald
-Ice Beam/Toxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

or
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Acid Armor/Aqua Ring/Wish
-Scald/Roar
Nature: Bold
EV: 244 HP/136 Def/128 Spe
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

Hmm..I see I actually like the first set best with toxic instead of ice beam. I just don't know how to get the wish on there. I'm pretty sure I have to breed it to get that, correct? or is there a tm for it?

Also, stat wise and based on my IV's and EV spread, is it a good Vaporeon? Or should I breed for one with better SP Def?

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by vapes

IV's in order
HP: 31 Atk: 3 Def: 26 Sp Atk: 9 Sp Def: 12 Spd: 28

EV's
HP: 252 Atk: 0 Def: 200 Sp Atk: 0 Sp Def: 52 Spd: 0

Hopefully that helps. I really do like Vaporeon as a water type, and I really want to use on a competitive team



Hmm..I see I actually like the first set best with toxic instead of ice beam. I just don't know how to get the wish on there. I'm pretty sure I have to breed it to get that, correct? or is there a tm for it?

Also, stat wise and based on my IV's and EV spread, is it a good Vaporeon? Or should I breed for one with better SP Def?

Wish is one of Eevee's egg moves, so you'll have to breed for it.

The IVs are decent, but the Special stats are terrible.

[vapes]

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

Wish is one of Eevee's egg moves, so you'll have to breed for it.

The IVs are decent, but the Special stats are terrible.

Well SP Atk shouldn't really matter since it's mostly a wall and its natural SP Atk can do some damage anyways. But yes I have hatched an egg that has much better SP Def, Def, and Speed. 29/30-31/29 respectively. The SP Atk is 5-8, but honestly it doesn't bother me as toxic and protect and wish will take out Pokes. And Surf/Scald will still do quite a lot of damage.

But yes I'll have to get a togepi..

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by vapes

Well SP Atk shouldn't really matter since it's mostly a wall and its natural SP Atk can do some damage anyways. But yes I have hatched an egg that has much better SP Def, Def, and Speed. 29/30-31/29 respectively. The SP Atk is 5-8, but honestly it doesn't bother me as toxic and protect and wish will take out Pokes. And Surf/Scald will still do quite a lot of damage.

But yes I'll have to get a togepi..

But then again, having a good IV in an offensive stat you intend to use is also important, as Toxic may not be enough to take down opponents, and base stats aren't enough alone, since there are times when the low IV will hinder your damage output.

Togepi and Eevee can't breed together as they belong to different egg groups. You can have a male Smeargle Sketch Wish and breed it with Eevee.

[vapes]

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

But then again, having a good IV in an offensive stat you intend to use is also important, as Toxic may not be enough to take down opponents, and base stats aren't enough alone, since there are times when the low IV will hinder your damage output.

Togepi and Eevee can't breed together as they belong to different egg groups. You can have a male Smeargle Sketch Wish and breed it with Eevee.

Hm, yes I see what you mean. Well I finally bred one and got an Eevee with WISH (I used skitty) and got these IV's
31/9/26/23-28/28/24 (Some of those might be wrong but they're around there).

Personally I think this is very good and I am not changing it. But please do provide feedback. Also, wish can be relearned by a move tutor if I delete it, correct?

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by vapes

Hm, yes I see what you mean. Well I finally bred one and got an Eevee with WISH (I used skitty) and got these IV's
31/9/26/23-28/28/24 (Some of those might be wrong but they're around there).

Personally I think this is very good and I am not changing it. But please do provide feedback. Also, wish can be relearned by a move tutor if I delete it, correct?

Yup, those IVs should be good.

Also, the Move Maniac can only reteach level-up moves, not Egg/tutor moves, and Wish isn't one of Eevee's level-up moves.

[vapes]

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

Yup, those IVs should be good.

Also, the Move Maniac can only reteach level-up moves, not Egg/tutor moves, and Wish isn't one of Eevee's level-up moves.

Thanks.
Just a quick question, do you happen to have one tamoto berry? I messed up EV training.

I have also chosen this moveset:

Scald
Toxic
Wish
Protect

Toxic for special attackers, scald for physical

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by vapes

Thanks.
Just a quick question, do you happen to have one tamoto berry? I messed up EV training.

I have also chosen this moveset:

Scald
Toxic
Wish
Protect

Toxic for special attackers, scald for physical

I don't trade via Wi-Fi. Tamato Berries can be bought at random from the Pokémon Breeder at Route 5 in B2/W2. Ask in the Quick Trade thread in the Trade forum.

[vapes]

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

I don't trade via Wi-Fi. Tamato Berries can be bought at random from the Pokémon Breeder at Route 5 in B2/W2. Ask in the Quick Trade thread in the Trade forum.

She doesn't give you Tamato Berries for some reason.
But yes, I already did. Thanks for your help, though

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by vapes

She doesn't give you Tamato Berries for some reason.
But yes, I already did. Thanks for your help, though

Oh I forgot; you get them from Join Avenue if you rank-up the Flower Shop enough.

[vapes]

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

Oh I forgot; you get them from Join Avenue if you rank-up the Flower Shop enough.

Only in Black 2; I don't know why White 2 doesn't get it.
I got one though from someone.

[AdrianD]

I have a Haxorus. Thats Lonely nature with 29+ atk and spd Ivs but its HP Iv is 0. Yes I mean 0. Id like to keep it but not sure if its a good idea considering its low hp and everything. Is it?

[Aryan143]

@AdrainD: You should keep it considering that you will be using Haxorus offensively. If you want to be defensive, then use another one.

[Ash493]

Originally Posted by AdrianD

I have a Haxorus. Thats Lonely nature with 29+ atk and spd Ivs but its HP Iv is 0. Yes I mean 0. Id like to keep it but not sure if its a good idea considering its low hp and everything. Is it?

Don't care about HP... Haxorus isn't made for long battles... it's made for sweeping.
So give him Choice Scarf or Band and kill everything before it kills you.

[AdrianD]

Originally Posted by Aryan143

@AdrainD: You should keep it considering that you will be using Haxorus offensively. If you want to be defensive, then use another one.

Originally Posted by Ash493

Don't care about HP... Haxorus isn't made for long battles... it's made for sweeping.
So give him Choice Scarf or Band and kill everything before it kills you. ;)

Which pokemon endures well? I have I think three sweepers 2 physical, 1 special. Would like one to endure a little bit and grind out if need be.

[ClumzyTrainR13]

So, my pokemon team has always proved well for me, but there is always room for improvement. Of course, I have the infamous Sp. Atk god Chandelure on my team, but as a was surfing through my PC, I noticed something. My measly Lvl 60 Darmanitan had a 203 Atk level, without EV Training or boosters! As a result, I began to wonder: should I replace my Chandelure with Darmanitan after this new found discovery? Opinions, please!

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by AdrianD

Which pokemon endures well? I have I think three sweepers 2 physical, 1 special. Would like one to endure a little bit and grind out if need be.

Here are some bulky 'mons you can try:

Ferrothorn:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

Forretress:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes/Toxic Spikes
-Rapid Spin
-Volt Switch
-Gyro Ball/Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Relaxed/Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy

Donphan:
-Earthquake
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock/Head Smash/Stone Edge
-Ice Shard
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy

Blissey:
-Aromatherapy/Heal Bell/Stealth Rock
-Softboiled
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
-Toxic/Thunder Wave
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Wish
-Protect/Softboiled
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
-Toxic/Thunder Wave
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

Skarmory:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Whirlwind/Roar
-Roost
-Brave Bird/Taunt
Nature: Impish/Careful
EVs: 252 HP/232 Def/24 Spe or 252 HP/232 SDef/24 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

Heatran:
-Lava Plume
-Stealth Rock/Roar
-Toxic/Will-o-Wisp/Earth Power
-Protect
Nature: Calm
EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Gliscor:
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Toxic
-Protect/Taunt/Roost
Nature: Impish
EVs: 244 HP/28 Def/236 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal

or
-Earthquake
-Taunt/Toxic
-Toxic/Ice Fang/Stealth Rock
-Roost/Protect
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/240 Def/16 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal

Jellicent:
-Scald/Surf
-Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
-Recover
-Taunt
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Scald/Surf
-Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
-Recover
-Ice Beam/Shadow Ball
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/36 Def/220 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb

[PlatinumDude]

The choice between Darmanitan and Chandelure depends on whether you want to hit hard physically or specially. Both have good offensive move pools, but Chandelure's Ghost typing is also what sets it from Darmanitan.

[AdrianD]

Originally Posted by vapes

Thanks.
Just a quick question, do you happen to have one tamoto berry? I messed up EV training.

I have also chosen this moveset:

Scald
Toxic
Wish
Protect

Toxic for special attackers, scald for physical

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

I don't trade via Wi-Fi. Tamato Berries can be bought at random from the Pokémon Breeder at Route 5 in B2/W2. Ask in the Quick Trade thread in the Trade forum.

They can be bought in the join avenue the berry specialist has to be I think lv 8

[bizebest]

Hi,
I'm trying to build a decent team with my favorite pokemon in it (Milotic) but I have difficulties against OU metagame with it.

Milotic : Leftovers
Scald
Ice Beam
Dragon Tail
Restore

Roserade : Big root
Spikes
Leech Seed
HP Fire
Giga-drain

Heatran : Air balloon
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Earth Power
Steath Rock

Scizor : Choice Band
Bullet Punch
U-turn
Super Power
Pursuit

Starmie : Life Orb or Electric gem / Ice gem?
Rapid spin
Hydro pump
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Salamence : Life Orb
Outrage
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Roost

OR

Dragonite : Lum berry
Outrage
Fire Punch
Dragon Dance
Roost

I am willing to try some replacements but here is the order of me being willing to drop them

1 : Roserade
2 : Heatran
3 : Starmie
4 : Scizor
5 : Dragonite / Salamence (I like Salamence better)
6 : nope, Shiny Milotic with near flawless IV's is my Trophy poke. I love the little fella

So? is it terrible? Is it redeemable? what are your suggestions?
Thanks

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by bizebest

Hi,
I'm trying to build a decent team with my favorite pokemon in it (Milotic) but I have difficulties against OU metagame with it.

Milotic : Leftovers
Scald
Ice Beam
Dragon Tail
Restore

Roserade : Big root
Spikes
Leech Seed
HP Fire
Giga-drain

Heatran : Air balloon
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Earth Power
Steath Rock

Scizor : Choice Band
Bullet Punch
U-turn
Super Power
Pursuit

Starmie : Life Orb or Electric gem / Ice gem?
Rapid spin
Hydro pump
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Salamence : Life Orb
Outrage
Flamethrower
Earthquake
Roost

OR

Dragonite : Lum berry
Outrage
Fire Punch
Dragon Dance
Roost

I am willing to try some replacements but here is the order of me being willing to drop them

1 : Roserade
2 : Heatran
3 : Starmie
4 : Scizor
5 : Dragonite / Salamence (I like Salamence better)
6 : nope, Shiny Milotic with near flawless IV's is my Trophy poke. I love the little fella

So? is it terrible? Is it redeemable? what are your suggestions?
Thanks

Might be a good idea to put in EVs for each of your 'mons, dude.

Anyway:

There's no "Restore" attack in Pokémon. I think you were referring to Recover.

Big Root isn't a good item to use competitively on Roserade, or any 'mon in general. Sure, the extra HP recovery is tempting, but that's what Lefties/Black Sludge is for. Ferrothorn is a better candidate over Roserade because of its good bulk and useful resists:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell


While Flamethrower has always been regarded as a reliable Fire STAB, Heatran really likes the extra power of Fire Blast. 85% accuracy isn't that bad compared to Focus Blast's 70% accuracy (sure, Heatran can't learn it, but I'm drawing a comparison).

Gems aren't good items to use competitively outside of Flying Gem + Acrobatics. Starmie should use Leftovers or Life Orb.

Life Orb + 3 attacks seems tempting on Salamence, but it tends to get revenge killed if it gets stuck on Outrage. Whether you choose Dragonite or Salamence depends on if you want more survivability (Dragonite's Multiscale and good defenses) or more power (Salamence's Moxie ability and superior Speed compared to Dragonite):
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Hydro Pump
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry

or
-Outrage
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Aqua Tail
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf
Ability: Moxie

or
-Outrage
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Earthquake
Nature: Naive
EVs: 64 Atk/192 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

[ClumzyTrainR13]

Ok so I'm trying to make a team, which I'm hoping will include 4 sweepers, 2 special 2 physical; and 1 Blissey with 1 Mienshao (for baton pass). My problem is, I have FIVE sweepers, and I don't know if I should get rid of one, or replace my Blissey with Mienshao, or vice versa. Here's my options of pokemon, and please give me tips on improvement and possible pokemon items as well.

Samurott:

Megahorn
Ice Beam
Hydro Cannon
Hydro Pump

Lucario:

Dragon Pulse
Earthquake
Close Combat
Ice Punch

Garchomp:

Earthquake
Draco Meteor
Stone Edge
Flamethrower

Chandelure:

Heat Wave
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Energy Ball

Pichu:

Volt Tackle
Double Team
Iron Tail
Grass Knot

Blissey:

Softboiled
Hyper Beam
Heal Bell
Toxic

Mienshao:

Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Bulk Up
Hi Jump Kick

[bizebest]

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude

Might be a good idea to put in EVs for each of your 'mons, dude.

There's no "Restore" attack in Pokémon. I think you were referring to Recover.

Ferrothorn is a better candidate over Roserade because of its good bulk and useful resists:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed
-Power Whip
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

Life Orb + 3 attacks seems tempting on Salamence, but it tends to get revenge killed if it gets stuck on Outrage. Whether you choose Dragonite or Salamence depends on if you want more survivability (Dragonite's Multiscale and good defenses) or more power (Salamence's Moxie ability and superior Speed compared to Dragonite):

Thanks for your insight

Sorry, They're not all on my pokecheck so I didn't know the EVs I'd used.

About Ferrothorn: I think I'll give him a try. He not the cutest thing but he's a tough guy.

About Starmie: Can you use the same Item on several Pokes in competitive battling?

About the Dragons : for my style of play (and for looks) , I like Salamence better but I find the OU metagame is SOOOOO bulky that I'm reluctantly using DD Dragonite w/ Roost because he's easier to set up.
Is Moxie the Overruling ability for DD Salamence or does Intimidate still have it's merits?

Any Idea how this team could deal with Sub/Drain Punch? A Gallade wiped the floor with me, the other day T_T

[PlatinumDude]

Originally Posted by ClumzyTrainR13

Ok so I'm trying to make a team, which I'm hoping will include 4 sweepers, 2 special 2 physical; and 1 Blissey with 1 Mienshao (for baton pass). My problem is, I have FIVE sweepers, and I don't know if I should get rid of one, or replace my Blissey with Mienshao, or vice versa. Here's my options of pokemon, and please give me tips on improvement and possible pokemon items as well.

Samurott:

Megahorn
Ice Beam
Hydro Cannon
Hydro Pump

Lucario:

Dragon Pulse
Earthquake
Close Combat
Ice Punch

Garchomp:

Earthquake
Draco Meteor
Stone Edge
Flamethrower

Chandelure:

Heat Wave
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Energy Ball

Pichu:

Volt Tackle
Double Team
Iron Tail
Grass Knot

Blissey:

Softboiled
Hyper Beam
Heal Bell
Toxic

Mienshao:

Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Bulk Up
Hi Jump Kick

EVs would totally be useful here. You overlooked the fact that some of your 'mons have setup moves on their own.

Never use Hyper Beam-style moves ever. They leave the user as a sitting duck the next turn. Samurott has a decent movepool to take advantage of:
-Swords Dance
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Megahorn
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Lum Berry/Mystic Water

or
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot/Hidden Power (Grass)
-Taunt/Megahorn/Superpower
Nature: Modest/Timid/Rash/Naive
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

EQ and Close Combat have redundant coverage together on Lucario:
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch/Shadow Claw/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Nasty Plot
-Aura Sphere
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball
-Vacuum Wave/Hidden Power (Ice)/Dragon Pulse
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

While Garchomp can go mixed, it's better off using physical moves to cause more damage:
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang/Aqua Tail
-Dragon Claw/Dual Chop
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf

or
-Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Yache Berry/Haban Berry/Lum Berry

or
-Substitute
-Swords Dance
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Salac Berry

or
-Stealth Rock
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Swords Dance
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

or
-Stealth Rock
-Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast/Aqua Tail/Protect
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/196 Def/60 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Despite Chandelure's high Special Attack, its 80 Speed and Stealth Rock/Pursuit weaknesses hold it back. You need another wall here, like Gliscor. It can act as a potential Baton Passer:
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Earthquake
-Toxic/Taunt/Rock Polish/Swords Dance
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP/24 Def/236 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal

You do realize that Blissey gained Hyper Voice as a B2/W2 move tutor, right? But then again, having a Normal STAB move as a sole attack leaves you walled by Ghosts, Rocks and Steels:
-Aromatherapy/Stealth Rock
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
-Softboiled
-Toxic/Thunder Wave
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

or
-Wish
-Protect/Softboiled
-Seismic Toss/Flamethrower
-Toxic/Thunder Wave
Nature: Calm
EVs: 4 HP/252 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure

BP'ing 2 different stat boosts at once is too much for something as frail as Mienshao. Smeargle gets the job done easily thanks to its ad infinitum move pool:
-Spore
-Shell Smash
-Baton Pass
-Taunt/Ingrain
Nature: Jolly/Timid
EVs: 80 HP/96 Def/80 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Own Tempo

Originally Posted by bizebest

Thanks for your insight

Sorry, They're not all on my pokecheck so I didn't know the EVs I'd used.

About Ferrothorn: I think I'll give him a try. He not the cutest thing but he's a tough guy.

About Starmie: Can you use the same Item on several Pokes in competitive battling?

About the Dragons : for my style of play (and for looks) , I like Salamence better but I find the OU metagame is SOOOOO bulky that I'm reluctantly using DD Dragonite w/ Roost because he's easier to set up.
Is Moxie the Overruling ability for DD Salamence or does Intimidate still have it's merits?

Any Idea how this team could deal with Sub/Drain Punch? A Gallade wiped the floor with me, the other day T_T

In simulators, yes. In cartridge battles, no. Starmie's type coverage is good enough to warrant an Expert Belt on it.

Either ability is viable on Salamence.

A (p)hazer might seem ideal on the team, though I'm not sure who I can replace:

Skarmory:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Whirlwind
-Roost
-Brave Bird/Taunt
Nature: Impish/Careful
EVs: 252 HP/232 Def/24 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

Celebi (though those things are very hard to find):
-Giga Drain/Psychic
-U-turn
-Recover
-Perish Song/Thunder Wave/Stealth Rock
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/232 SDef/24 Spe
Item: Leftovers