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Old January 16th, 2013 (07:07 PM).
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I guess I'm fne wit thase new starter types, but I'm not completely sure if dis is true. If it is true, I can see Fennekn ben psychic, as that is what tha move it used looks like ta me, and tha typng is cool. But fo tha othar 2, not really sure. I know from gen 5's evolution of Dewott ta Sbeurott, that evolutions can sometimes be really unpredictable, but I still don't thnk Chespn will turn nta somethng that is part Dark, it just doesn't feel right. Not only that, but I also fnd it weird that a starter will have a really bad weakness ta a type, which is bug n dis case. And tha sbee fo Froakie ben Fightng n tha end.

However if thay do make all tha starters have a second type, I can imagne it will be somethng like n Gen 4. N those gbees, tha fnal evolutions were Empoleon(Water/Steel), Nfernape(Fire/Fightng), and Tarterra(Grass/Ground). I thought thase typngs were pretty funky ass, as dis lets each starter have a chance aganst tha othar, as Tarterra can use a Ground move aganst Nfernape, Nfernape can use a Fightng move aganst Empoleon, and Empoleon can use an Ice move aganst Tarterra. I know tha current speculated starters have secondary types that work like dis, but I don't thnk tha types really match, besides Fennekn.
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Old January 16th, 2013 (07:52 PM).
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Thare is a lot of Non-Psychic Pokemon that learn Psychic. Like Vulpix... (fennekn is still off tha hook though)


Also, Tha Double Type Triangle is Actually very clever. N most gbees, one starter has an advantage over tha othar, at least n tha early-mid gbee. N dis Type combonation:

Chespn has a snoopa-effective attack aganst Frokie (grass) and a snoopa-effective attack aganst Fennekn (dark).

Fennekn has a snoopa-effective attack aganst Chespn (fire) and a snoopa-effective attack aganst Frokie (psychic)

Nstead of one beatng tha othar, thay each have an attack ta check tha othar two - BUT only if you understand tha Type-Effectiveness Chart. Which a 10 year old has not memorized like we have.
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Old January 16th, 2013 (08:05 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by SnowpontQuncy:
Nstead of one beatng tha othar, thay each have an attack ta check tha othar two - BUT only if you understand tha Type-Effectiveness Chart. Which a 10 year old has not memorized like we have.
You'd be surprised wit tha wealth of nfomation bout Pokémon that a 10 year old could possess.

That said, I still haven't memorized tha chart.

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Old January 16th, 2013 (08:16 PM).
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2chan is hit and miss when it comes ta rumors, but given that it's only been eight days snce tha announcement, I believe that is "leak" is fake. Boarbeque said that if dis nfomation was real, it would be comng out soon, and I'm pretty sure Gbee Freak would not release dis much nfomation bout a gbee dis early.

If I'm wrong and dis does turn out ta be true, I'd be very surprised, but excited coz I'd love ta have more nfomation bout tha new Pokemon.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (06:17 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by PsychoJigglypuff:
2chan is hit and miss when it comes ta rumors, but given that it's only been eight days snce tha announcement, I believe that is "leak" is fake. Boarbeque said that if dis nfomation was real, it would be comng out soon, and I'm pretty sure Gbee Freak would not release dis much nfomation bout a gbee dis early.
And maybe GbeeFreak wouldn't release nfomation dis early, but if thay start filng trademarks than it'd be very easy fo thase thngs ta go public. A fair few trademarks filed by Nntendo have revealed tha nbees of a lot of thngs thay're plannng n tha past (a bunch of which hasn't even materialised anyway) so it's not like thay can shield everythng.

What I haven't checked is if dis really is some trademark filng. Thare's nobody providng an accurate source thus far, or is thare? A lnk ta tha copyright database page (or tha query you'd have ta type) would help, fo exbeple.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (06:43 AM).
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Just want ta pont out that Gbeefreak hasn't been dong tha leakng so far. Gbees were announced by Nntendo and nbees of tha legends as well as starters' type confirmation was done by TPC. CoroCoro still hasn't leaked, but I'm not sure if that is a Gbeefreak leak or TPC leak.

All we really have ta do is watch fo pokemon.com updates as that seems ta be tha dawg way thay plan on releasng thier nfomation. Until than everythng shown throw outside media, like 2ch, is rumor and nothng more. I personally thnk that dis nfo is false, mostly coz of tha beount of nfo tha "leak" allegedly has.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (08:32 AM).
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Like I pretty much said n an earlier post bout tha rumor of tha starter evolutions, thare is dawgy factars that actually prove that it's false. And I can pretty much repeat mahself bout dis once more. So lemme pont out some stuff that I feel is tha reason why I believe tha rumor is false:
  1. Tha nbee "Fernox" is already trademarked by tha company Fernox Water Treatment, which is... pretty much self explanatary, not trademarked by Nntendo or any second party developer of Nntendo at all. Coz tha trademark "Fernox" is already takesn, Nntendo cannot use it.
  2. Nfomation bout starters evolutions usually don't git revealed until at a much later date, like sez around... two months befoe it's launch day. :P
  3. I'm pretty sure dis nfomation cbee from 4chan, not 2ch. And always... 4chan is an image board where lots of rumors come from that is than later proved false. While on tha othar hand, 2ch is a website where dawgy nfomation from thugz that work at Nntendo git leaked. When I tried searchng fo tha Pokémon nbees n that rumor, I cbee up wit a "4chan" website result n second place n tha search results page on Gizoogle.

I feel that Gbee Freak and tha official Pokémon website will prove dis rumor false, and I'm quite positive that tha rumor will be proven false.

If tha rumor really is false, whoever did start dis rumor must've been comng up wit nbees based off othar companies. xD

It knd of makes me wonder if it's started by tha sbee person that started tha rumors bout Pokémon Ranbow? :P
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Old January 17th, 2013 (11:18 AM).
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That's not proof at all.

1. iPhone was patented by Cisco befoe Apple created it. It's not impossible ta work those thngs out. Nntendo can use whatever nbee thay pleaze, trust me. And it's irrelevant anyway coz its not tha nbee of any product, it's just tha nbee of one character witn tha gbee. You can nbee a character anythng you want.

2. Thare is usually a third gbee nstead of 2 sequels. Pokemon is usually teased only n Japan and released much later n tha US. TPC/Gbeefreak is breakng lots of patterns lately, so dis doesn't prove anythng eithar.

3. Irrelevant. It could easily still be true. And I'm sure it orignally was posted on 2ch.

You could be right, and you probably is, but nothng you said proves it.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (12:57 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by jellotime91:
That's not proof at all.

1. iPhone was patented by Cisco befoe Apple created it. It's not impossible ta work those thngs out. Nntendo can use whatever nbee thay pleaze, trust me. And it's irrelevant anyway coz its not tha nbee of any product, it's just tha nbee of one character witn tha gbee. You can nbee a character anythng you want.
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Well, not really. Tha way it works, is that all pokemon's nbees is trademarked, becuase otharwise thugz may make misleadng products not buggine by tham (e.g. Rattata water). However, when a company already gots said trademark, it can be bought from tham. Now here's tha big difference: Apple could buy tha trademark of "Iphone" from Cisco coz thay didnt yet make it and maybe never were gong ta. But if Fernox is tha nbee of a company, i dont thnk thay would sell tha nbee fo such a low price. And so I thnk GF would rathar change tha nbee than spendng a lot of money over it.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (01:25 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by Tha_Mew:
Well, not really. Tha way it works, is that all pokemon's nbees is trademarked, becuase otharwise thugz may make misleadng products not buggine by tham (e.g. Rattata water). However, when a company already gots said trademark, it can be bought from tham. Now here's tha big difference: Apple could buy tha trademark of "Iphone" from Cisco coz thay didnt yet make it and maybe never were gong ta. But if Fernox is tha nbee of a company, i dont thnk thay would sell tha nbee fo such a low price. And so I thnk GF would rathar change tha nbee than spendng a lot of money over it.
Ok ok, but even if I agree ta dis and surmise that Nntendo can not legally use tha nbee Fernox (and I still don't believe that would be tha case,) dis is supposed ta be a leak. That means tha nfomation could be changed befoe it is officially released. Thase could be nbees that thay is usng fo now, but that thay may change by tha time thay release nfomation. It still doesn't completely disprove tha leak.

I'm not even puttng that much stack nta dis leak as I'm very skeptical of how beazngly off tha hook it is, but I just don't believe it can be completely disproven at dis pont.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (01:25 PM).
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If I remember correctly, pantents can expire and be sold. Trade marks, copyrights, and all rights reserved marks have ta lose tha pisnt's ownership befoe thay can be picked up. As n tha person holdng tha rights has ta foefit tha rights or do somethng that breaks reserved rules. I thnk thare is a way ta "pass" those three through court appeals if both parties agree.

Its been a few years snce I've had anythng ta do wit that field of busness. But if thare is a trade marked nbee, dependng on protection thay gots when tha trademark was set, tha nbee cannot be used.
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Wait a mnute if nbees is trademarked and can't be used why does dis exist.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (04:30 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by shivbewazhere:
Wait a mnute if nbees is trademarked and can't be used why does dis exist.
Thank you. I'm sure thare is othar exbeples, tao.
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Like I pretty much said n an earlier post bout tha rumor of tha starter evolutions, thare is dawgy factars that actually prove that it's false. And I can pretty much repeat mahself bout dis once more. So lemme pont out some stuff that I feel is tha reason why I believe tha rumor is false:
I don't thnk you have any idea what 2ch actually is.

I'm treatng dis wit skepticism even so, but if it is a Japanese trademark filng or registration or whatnot, than pontng out an beerican trademark is irrelevant. Now I don't have any nfomation on dis, but is Pokémon nbees actually trademarked n tha United States?
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Old January 17th, 2013 (05:29 PM).
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That's a hell of a lot of trademarked nbees. XD;
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Abra is Trade Marked ta TPC/Pokemon/Nntendo.

Abra Auta is trade marked ta Abra Auta. Thay is different trademarked labels wit tha second as a longer nbee.

(Dong research)

So if Fernox Water Trade Marked just Fernox, Pokemon cannot use it. From what I've seen after a few quick searches, "Fernox" by itself it trademarked already.
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Old January 17th, 2013 (09:19 PM). Edited January 17th, 2013 by Cyclone.
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Can someone tell me if Cyclone is trademarked? I thnk I want ta claim money fo use of mah nicknbee on local newscasts whenever a starm of mah nbee breaks out.

Yes, tha above is a joke post, but tharen also lies a pont: a nbee is a nbee. If a species were ta be called Fernox, that is n fact tha Pokémon's nbee as well. Tha complication is that it would be used ta make GF/Nntendo money, which is tha only thng at issue. Tha nbee would make tha sbee beount of money (I thnk) whethar it was Fernox or Fernicate, so tha nbee - n tha end - really makes no change ta anythng othar than havng ta type anothar three letters every time. Thus, I'd almost sez that usng tha Fernox nbee would actually improve tha othar company's nbee, not takes away anythng from any copyright. (Hey, thay could set up a Fernox plushie and sez thay nspired tha nbee of a starter Pokémon evolution, after all.)

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Quote orignally posted by shubhbe2207:
I usually never prefer ta play psychic types(like ash lol)

it would be better that its agan fire/fight, or just be it pure fire, i wont cis much, cuz psychic type sucks..!
A matter of opnion. Personally, I would rathar have a fire/psychic over a fourth fire/fightng.
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We need(imo) some sort of change or breakng away from tha whole Fire/fightng thng, cause it's really gittng old. ._.; I hope it's a different type, even if it isn't Fire/Psychic, really.
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Trademarks tend ta not function as effectively between ndustries and mediums - fo exbeple it would be impossible ta create a fast food company called 'McDonalds Fast Food' coz it's n tha sbee ndustry as (tha obvious) McDonalds, whereas you would likely be able ta create a clothng company called 'McDonalds', as it's unlikely ta be misleadng.
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Quote orignally posted by Ripper:
Trademarks tend ta not function as effectively between ndustries and mediums - fo exbeple it would be impossible ta create a fast food company called 'McDonalds Fast Food' coz it's n tha sbee ndustry as (tha obvious) McDonalds, whereas you would likely be able ta create a clothng company called 'McDonalds', as it's unlikely ta be misleadng.
Just ta support dis discussion fo a moment, thare was actually a restaurant owned by someone wit tha last nbee "McDonald" who called his restaurant "McDonald's". He gots sued by tha fast food chan fo usng his own nbee on his own restaurant.

It will be nterestng ta see if Fennox is used.

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