X/Y General Chat and Speculation

[DavidtheDeadPhilosopher]

Originally Posted by Forever

. and Jolteon can have... something... awesome!

Electric/Bug I've been using him as a pseudo-bug in almost any Gen 1 (and sometimes even Gen2) runs I do. To me it's just feels right. Of course, I think this whole second type thing would only really work if they were to evolve. I would trade in all the things just to see them obtain a stage-2.

[Forever]

Oh ya, it also gets Signal Beam too!! But only issue is I don't really see it as looking like a bug lmao. It's just... designed in a way that it doesn't look like if it were to get another typing in these games that it'd fit into no other typing easily imo.

[vaporeon7]

Giving Vaporeon an extra ice typing would make no sense. It can only learn one damaging ice move that most Water Pokémon cannot, Auroua Beam. Octillery can learn that too, should we tack an ice typing on too, or maybe a psychic, or grass, or even fire? Ice is probably the worst defensive typing and would destroy Vaporeon's many walling capabilities.

[Aerilyn]

Originally Posted by Forever

@ Vapor: But then Vaporeon can be Water/Ice aka stronggg, while Flareon could benefit from something making it less rock weak, like Fighting/Fire. and Jolteon can have... something... awesome! And Umbreon can be part Steel to make it really defensive, and Espeon can be part Grass cause light and I associate grass with light/Psychic.

You want to make Umbreon 4x weak against Fighting types? D:

If previous Eeveelutions were given dual-types, then I wouldn't want it to be a type that another Eeveelution already has. I mean, Glaceon is already an Ice-type, making Vaporeon Water/Ice sort of makes the whole Eeveelutions system seem redundant.

[Suicune™]

I wouldnt support previous eeveelutions getting dual types, it would eliminate the need to create any more eeveelutuons of typing that get assigned to the previous ones and its pretty balanced as it is right now.

[HRforges]

Plus what would you give as a second type to frickin flareon, it's still going to suck so instead GF should give flareon better moves, maybe upgrade it's bite to crunch or give it a signature move or something, anything, flareon is probaly the most favorite eveelution but is generally unusable in competitive play

[vaporeon7]

Originally Posted by HRforges

Plus what would you give as a second type to frickin flareon, it's still going to suck so instead GF should give flareon better moves, maybe upgrade it's bite to crunch or give it a signature move or something, anything, flareon is probaly the most favorite eveelution but is generally unusable in competitive play

Nica suggested fighting earlier. But the only move that suggests this is Superpower, which is a move that many Pokémon can learn. The typings she suggested are based off one or two moves and hardly put up any argument. There are plenty of other Pokémon that deserve a type change than the Eeveelutions.

[Vapie]

No dual types on Eeveelutions, please. That defeats the purpose in my opinion.

[PokémonShinySilver]

Originally Posted by Vapie

No dual types on Eeveelutions, please. That defeats the purpose in my opinion.

Yeah same here. If there's any new Eeveelutions in Pokémon X and Y, I would much prefer them to have one type only. No secondary types. xD

[Forever]

Well Flareon does have high attack so that's why I matched them together!

As for vaporeon if it got dual typings in these games other than ice I think water/psychic would be awesome given iirc there aren't many threatening dark types in OU, the tier it's in!

[CycloneGU]

They won't dual-type Eeveelutions. They haven't done it with a single one. If anything, they'll do new ones. There's already Vaporeon and Glaceon, so even if they were going to dual-type, they wouldn't combine these.

Cyclone

[vaporeon7]

New moves to their movepools would do much better than another type. JUST GIVE FLAREON FLARE BLITZ ALREADY!

[Aerilyn]

I agree, if anything should be done with the Eeveelutions this gen, it should be improving on the number of new moves they can learn.

[Suicune™]

They need to give Flareon Flamethrower by level up, it can learn Fire Blast and Lava Plume but not Flamethrower..

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by Aerilyn

I agree, if anything should be done with the Eeveelutions this gen, it should be improving on the number of new moves they can learn.

This.

And making more physical moves for Flareon to learn. Good physical moves at that, since I feel that it's base attack is pretty much useless if it's not going to learn any physical moves to go along with it. ._.

[Miss Doronjo]

I want to add that I hope Leafeon gets a more diverse movepool in X&Y as well. :__; And I hope new items in X&Y can help support the Eeveelutions to their full efficiency~

[Suicune™]

Originally Posted by Starfire Dragon

Hey! :) Does anyone have any info on the Mystery game due out in March?

It depends what information you need, there's lots on this website.

[Sydian]

I don't think they need to give old Pokemon new typings, especially making Umbreon part Steel wtf don't ruin my favorite. >:(

If anything, give poor little Flareon FLARE BLITZ. PLEASE.

[Suicune™]

They also need to give Glaceon Ice Beam as a level up move, the best Ice move it can learn is Blizzard but that has lowish accuracy with 5 PP. Ice Beam would be perfect for Glaceon especially with it's high Special Attack.

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by Miss Doronjo

I want to add that I hope Leafeon gets a more diverse movepool in X&Y as well. :__; And I hope new items in X&Y can help support the Eeveelutions to their full efficiency~

I just hate how the general standard Eeveelution moveset is(at least, iirc):

- Flamethrower/Ice Beam/T-bolt/stab move here
- Shadow Ball(Espeon only usually, maybe Glaceon??)
- Hidden Power (Type here)
- Filler??

At least, that's what I recall. .__.

[Pokemaster234]

I am honesly exited.I mean Pokemon in 3D!!!! I'm not like those guys who say:"Omg where is
Charmander,Bulbasaur,And Squirtle"and"This thing Sux"IT HAS JUST BEING RELEASED!!!!!
Even though they will buy it.

[HRforges]

Originally Posted by vaporeon7

There are plenty of other Pokémon that deserve a type change than the Eeveelutions.

Yeah like dunsparce.
Also what if eevee had a normal evolution?
I think it would be interesting.

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by HRforges

Yeah like dunsparce.
Also what if eevee had a normal evolution?
I think it would be interesting.

I don't see it being that much stronger though, but it's still an interesting thought. XD

[Hikari10]

Originally Posted by Sydian

If anything, give poor little Flareon FLARE BLITZ. PLEASE.

Yeah, they really need to fix the Eeveelutions' movesets this generation.

And I also do agree with whoever said Glaceon needs Ice Beam for a level-up move. It would be great for its overall usability.

[~RNC~]

Hope this is the right place for this and hope it hasn't been asked before, I know they are coming out in all regions in Oct. but are they gonna in english or japanese?