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Mr. Red (Scizor) @ Flying Gem
EVs: 148 HP / 238 Atk / 124 Spd
- Bug Bite
- Bullet Punch
Gems (Gastrodon) @ Rindo Berry
Trait: Storm Drain
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SDef / 252 Def
- Muddy Water / Surf (Not going to use Scald, since I aim for Paralysis)
- Ice Beam
So I'm gonna battle with some friends next week with VGC format and have built this team by reading guides, reading RMTs, etc. Any suggestions on how to improve? I've won three battles so far, and I am having problems with Gastrodon, Thundurus, and opposing Heatran with Sub.
I tried Sableye, but I wasn't sure if it was of any use for the team. Latios wasn't doing well neither.
FINALLY. The other day I was gonna suggest possible lead combinations depending on what pokemon the other team had. You've swapped your team around though so a lot of those have gone poof. If you still want that, I can work on it later.
First of all, since you already have 2 ice moves, I'd suggest changing HP Ice to HP Grass on Togekiss. I have yet to meet a Gastrodon that could beat my Togekiss without help from its teammate. But then mine is built far bulkier than yours. Nonetheless, the natural bulk on Togekiss is usually enough to allow it to land a devastating hit on Gastro. Just watch out for its partner, whatever it may be. If you want, you can try the ol' bulky Paraflinch Togekiss or Follow Me set. Both work in different ways but both are bulky enough that Gastro, Thundurus and Heatran will have trouble taking it out. Keeping old set but switching HP Ice to HP Grass will help with Gastrodon and any other water types, and Heatran will still have trouble against Togekiss.
Calm Togekiss @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP|252 SpD|4 Def OR 252 HP|200 SpD|58 Def
~Thunder Wave / Nasty Plot / Body Slam
Standard Togekiss is Standard. EVs depend on whether or not you care about physical hits. Tyranitar will still 2HKO you either way. If you're dealing with a rain team, or NOT dealing with a Trick Room team, then this will work well. 60% chance of making the opposing pokemon do nothing is cool. Unfortunately Gastrodon tanks hits, but if it doesn't carry Icy Wind, then you at least have a chance to flinch it every-so-often. You can switch Thunder Wave for something else since Cress carries it. Careful with throwing paralysis everywhere, because if it turns out your opponent is a Trick Room user, suddenly their pokemon will go first everytime.
Calm Togekiss @ Leftovers/Lum Berry/Sitrus Berry
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP|4 Def|252 SpD
~ Follow Me
~ Air Slash
~ Thunder Wave / Tailwind
~ Protect / Roost
Pulled off Smogon. Special attackers are super common in doubles, and physical attackers are rarer. If it ever comes up that your opponent has 2 special attackers on the field, Togekiss can tank attacks using Follow Me and pull pressure off your other pokemon.
Togekiss @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere
- Hidden Power [Grass]
Slightly edited from original set. Now you can hit opposing Gastrodon and Heatran. Heatran will still get Subs off, but it'll go down as soon as it goes up.
Haven't got much experience using the others so I can't really help there. Heatran's been a total dud in my team but then again, mine is rain, where he's utterly useless.
Thank you, Griffy! and Gonz0 is just spamming, not helpful at all... KIDDING! I will do that, Gonz0. :D
I forgot to replace HP Ice on Togekiss. Gastrodon was suppose to carry it though, but I placed Ice Beam instead. I really haven't used it at all, and I was thinking of the Counter-Coat Gastrodon. Togekiss was meant to be the true Special Attacker of this team. I couldn't think of anything else that annoys opponents more than it should.
Heatran isn't really that useful for me, and I don't know if I should keep it or not. Sure Taunt-tran is awesome, but the only synergy I could think of is Gastrodon + Heatran on the field. Gastrodon absorbs any Water-type attack aimed on Heatran, but that's that; it couldn't do anything else when Ground-type attacks comes in. I don't want to lose Scizor, Cress, and Hitmontop on since Cress is the main point of the team and if I remove 'top and Scizor, there won't be anything else that uses Physical moves.
Should I opt for a bit bulkier EV spread for Togekiss?
Moosik, it's your choice for Togekiss. Speed or bulkiness. TBH, I haven't found speed to be useful for Togekiss. Stuff with Prankster will paralyze it or folks will kill it ASAP regardless because the memory of flinchkiss is in their minds.
I dislike using Heatran as well. I tried it a few times and it just doesn't work. At least, it doesn't work on my team. It's fast, sure, but it's a friggin' glass cannon. All you can really do is slap a Focus Sash on it and hope it doesn't die. Taunt isn't too helpful because everything but Tornadus/Thundurus will pretty much be attacking or using Protect. Maybe try using Volcarona? It might be better able to fill the slot that Heatran is in.
Volcarona w/ Focus Sash or Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid / Modest
~ Heat Wave
~ Bug Buzz
~ Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Ground / Rage Powder
Sash will allow it to get a hit in, if your opponent doesn't decide to double-target it. You might be able to fit Quiver Dance in there somewhere, if you're confident that you'll be able to get one off. If you're gonna go the scarf route, replace Protect with something else. I think Scarf will work better, because it's guaranteed that you'll get a move off. Volcarona is bulky enough that unless you're dealing with a double-water pair or get double targetted, it should be able deal 2 hits before it goes down. Its special attack is pretty beastly.
Scizor feels off in your team, I can't tell why right now. It's just a feeling. In the meanwhile, try changing some things and see what works and doesn't and if there's any new issues that surface.
Btw, you forgot your item on Hitmontop. If you're tired of spread moves, you can try exchanging Protect with Wide Guard. That'll completely nullify any spread moves, but you lose your guaranteed Protect.
No wonder my Hitmontop feels empty. Should I have it carry Normal Gem for stronger Fake Out? I'll switch out some things as well with Heatran and Volcarona. Follow Me on Togekiss + Volcarona seems good to me. I can sure get one Quiver Dance if I get Togekiss to use Follow Me. Heatran is just meh, it's better off on singles. I'm gonna think of this team more later and I'll see if I could fit Virizion instead of Scizor.