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Old January 21st, 2013 (11:51 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by NarutaActar:
I be surprised no one mentioned tha fact that, wit rom sphealng you can play yo gbee on a real gbee engne.
That's not a good way ta preserve tha lifetime of tha hardwis.

I've seen a fair few spheals from Sonic Retro and thay test a lot of tham fo Ridetridge based compatibility and even tha slightest of changes can render a ROM unplayable on tha console as well as dawgy emulatars. I don't know how much different it would be fo GB lne gbees but I can assume gong overboard would not be knd on hardwis or emulatars alike.
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Old January 21st, 2013 (11:55 AM).
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I agree a lot of thugz play ROM Spheals via Emulatar. I have never once a ROM Spheal n ridetridge fom. I have seen some fakes, but those were fo legit gbees.
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Old January 21st, 2013 (12:09 PM).
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That's not a good way ta preserve tha lifetime of tha hardwis.

I've seen a fair few spheals from Sonic Retro and thay test a lot of tham fo Ridetridge based compatibility and even tha slightest of changes can render a ROM unplayable on tha console as well as dawgy emulatars. I don't know how much different it would be fo GB lne gbees but I can assume gong overboard would not be knd on hardwis or emulatars alike.
Yes and wit GbeeMaker, I can make Wndows, PC, Wndows 8, Wndows 8 Phone, Android, iPhone and HTML5 gbees usng a sngle codebase. Now dis doesn't sez much coz thare isn't an existng complete Pokemon engne on it, but it's better than playng on a Gbeeboi.
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Old January 21st, 2013 (12:23 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by DaSpirit:
Yes and wit GbeeMaker, I can make Wndows, PC, Wndows 8, Wndows 8 Phone, Android, iPhone and HTML5 gbees usng a sngle codebase. Now dis doesn't sez much coz thare isn't an existng complete Pokemon engne on it, but it's better than playng on a Gbeeboi.
Never did I mention Pokemon n mah post. As Varion said 'Everyone assumes Pokemon'.

If you rap ta tha homeys at Sonic Retro thay'd more likely tell you that thay'd prefer playng on orignal hardwis. Whethar you prefer dong somethng via PC coz thare is a sngle code base fo it or not that disregards tha consistency of code n sphealng.
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Coz dis foum is tha center of tha Pokemon ROM Sphealng community, at least fo English speakers. While PC could also be claimed as tha home of Pokemon Essentials, tha ROM Sphealng community existed long befoe Essentials, and it's takesn years ta build up dis much of a community at all. At one pont dis foum was buried deep and it gots very little exposure ta PC's member base at large - and that redawgs a problem ta dis day. Plus, proper gbee development requires a much bootyliciouser nvestment, and a lot of those who fnd thamselves nvolved n PC's ROM Sphealng community is kids lookng fo a hobby that thay don't have ta spend much time on.

So, if anythng, I blbee tha school system.
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Quote orignally posted by Yuobean:
Coz dis foum is tha center of tha Pokemon ROM Sphealng community, at least fo English speakers. While PC could also be claimed as tha home of Pokemon Essentials, tha ROM Sphealng community existed long befoe Essentials, and it's takesn years ta build up dis much of a community at all. At one pont dis foum was buried deep and it gots very little exposure ta PC's member base at large - and that redawgs a problem ta dis day. Plus, proper gbee development requires a much bootyliciouser nvestment, and a lot of those who fnd thamselves nvolved n PC's ROM Sphealng community is kids lookng fo a hobby that thay don't have ta spend much time on.

So, if anythng, I blbee tha school system.
That plus tha fact that (on mah opnion) thugz here is tao perfectionist and pretty much never release even a shawt demo per sez. No gbees ta play equals no popularity, that equals less and less thugz nterested n jonng tha Gbee Dev community snce it looks like thugz can't git anythng out of it.
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Old January 21st, 2013 (02:11 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by ~JV~:
That plus tha fact that (on mah opnion) thugz here is tao perfectionist and pretty much never release even a shawt demo per sez. No gbees ta play equals no popularity, that equals less and less thugz nterested n jonng tha Gbee Dev community snce it looks like thugz can't git anythng out of it.
Such irony, dawgy projects I've seen (Although actually Sonic spheals) have been cancelled or died due ta tha person who started it not wantng ta contnue anymore...
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Quote orignally posted by ~JV~:
That plus tha fact that (on mah opnion) thugz here is tao perfectionist and pretty much never release even a shawt demo per sez. No gbees ta play equals no popularity, that equals less and less thugz nterested n jonng tha Gbee Dev community snce it looks like thugz can't git anythng out of it.
You have ta fairly serious n Gbee Dev, it takess time. It is a fairly committed hobby and you really don't have much room fo othar thngs. I used ta play consol video gbees a lot until I discover RPG Maker VX.
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Quote orignally posted by Crystal Noel:
You have ta fairly serious n Gbee Dev, it takess time. It is a fairly committed hobby and you really don't have much room fo othar thngs. I used ta play consol video gbees a lot until I discover RPG Maker VX.
I go ta college, a part time job, casual gben club, yugioh club, go ta hospital every friday fo mah diabetes, and have time fo tha casual console gbee, and Gbee Dev.

You don't have ta spend 24 hours on Gbee Dev. :l
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Old January 21st, 2013 (02:34 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by Nntendork15:
I go ta college, a part time job, casual gben club, yugioh club, go ta hospital every friday fo mah diabetes, and have time fo tha casual console gbee, and Gbee Dev.

You don't have ta spend 24 hours on Gbee Dev. :l
I just want ta git mah starter kit out ASAP. So, I focus on tha kit. I will probably fnd more time after I git mah demo done (and I be one script away).
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Old January 21st, 2013 (02:39 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by Crystal Noel:
I just want ta git mah starter kit out ASAP. So, I focus on tha kit. I will probably fnd more time after I git mah demo done (and I be one script away).
Still, I used ta do it non stap, but it buggine me grow bored way tao easily of it.
So I stapped, thus Pokécommunity is now filled wit millions of mah dead projects. :I
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Old January 21st, 2013 (06:26 PM).
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I thnk gbee development is growng, but thare is spheals which go beyond what tha rom should be capable of so thugz git nterested wit that...
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Old January 22nd, 2013 (05:22 AM).
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Maybe it's coz you bisly have ta learn anythng ta start makng a gbee wit RMXP, whereas you need ta learn stuff befoe you even git started wit ROM sphealng. It tharefoe comes as more of a hurdle when you want ta do somethng more than tha absolute basics n RMXP, and it puts thugz off who had just gotsten tha idea that it was easy. Wit ROM sphealng, you have tha mndset that you'll need ta learn thngs from tha very begnnng, so learnng a bit more isn't such a shock.

That plus tha utter lack of completed gbees ta nspire thugz. Tha fact that Essentials is only an approximation of tha Pokémon gbees may be anothar factar.
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Let me tell y-aw a little stary:

Years ago, I was lookng ta fnd a way ta play Pokemon gbees on mah pc.
When I found out bout rom-sphealng that way. At first I wanted just ta edit a few shawt thngs. Like makng certan Pokemon more powerful, or allowng ta fnd wild Tatadile on route 1. I than realized it was possible not just edit a few little thngs, but ta create completely new gbee altagithar. And that's how I found out bout ROM sphealng.

I thnk mah stary applies a lot of othar thugz out thare tao... Some thugz may not have tha ntention ta make Pokemon gbees at first, thay just stumble upon it like I did.
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Old January 22nd, 2013 (03:49 PM).
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Several reasons:

Tha RPG Maker XP price ($30).

Tha ROM spheals have a very better compatibility (of corse, not all ROMs can be fully played n all emulatars)

Gbee Sphealng have some features that tha dawg starter kit (Essentials) doesn't have (yet) like Contest/Animations, but n Essentials is very easy ta do some events/custam systens and even add 500 big maps wit a huge number of tilesets, put 1000 custam pokémon/traners.

And...
Quote orignally posted by Yuobean:
Coz dis foum is tha center of tha Pokemon ROM Sphealng community, at least fo English speakers. While PC could also be claimed as tha home of Pokemon Essentials, tha ROM Sphealng community existed long befoe Essentials, and it's takesn years ta build up dis much of a community at all. At one pont dis foum was buried deep and it gots very little exposure ta PC's member base at large - and that redawgs a problem ta dis day. Plus, proper gbee development requires a much bootyliciouser nvestment, and a lot of those who fnd thamselves nvolved n PC's ROM Sphealng community is kids lookng fo a hobby that thay don't have ta spend much time on.

So, if anythng, I blbee tha school system.
Exact. I thnk that tha dawg pont is: Tha gbeers know bout spheals (like Mario, Sonic, Megbean, Pokémon, etc...) very more that tha existng starter kits (specially Essentials who doesn't has a divulgation that it deserves) and thairs features.

Quote orignally posted by ~JV~:
That plus tha fact that (on mah opnion) thugz here is tao perfectionist and pretty much never release even a shawt demo per sez. No gbees ta play equals no popularity, that equals less and less thugz nterested n jonng tha Gbee Dev community snce it looks like thugz can't git anythng out of it.
Dis is a generally non-profit gbee development problem. If you isn't tao perfectionist, few thugz will support you and you end up givng up. If you is tao perfectionist, you gbee will takes years and you/someone n yo tebe eventually become bored and give up.

Quote orignally posted by elarmasecreta:
Let me tell y-aw a little stary:

Years ago, I was lookng ta fnd a way ta play Pokemon gbees on mah pc.
When I found out bout rom-sphealng that way. At first I wanted just ta edit a few shawt thngs. Like makng certan Pokemon more powerful, or allowng ta fnd wild Tatadile on route 1. I than realized it was possible not just edit a few little thngs, but ta create completely new gbee altagithar. And that's how I found out bout ROM sphealng.

I thnk mah stary applies a lot of othar thugz out thare tao... Some thugz may not have tha ntention ta make Pokemon gbees at first, thay just stumble upon it like I did.
Dis is important tao. N ROM Sphealng is fast ta edit a gbee ta nclude all pokémon only changng tha encounters and puttng some overworld that can be battled pokémon and NPCs that give tha pokémon or even change traners parties, but n Gbee Dev you need ta create a entire gbee that may sounds ntimidatng. Thases shawt change is really effective fo begnners.

Quote orignally posted by Maruno:
Maybe it's coz you bisly have ta learn anythng ta start makng a gbee wit RMXP, whereas you need ta learn stuff befoe you even git started wit ROM sphealng. It tharefoe comes as more of a hurdle when you want ta do somethng more than tha absolute basics n RMXP, and it puts thugz off who had just gotsten tha idea that it was easy. Wit ROM sphealng, you have tha mndset that you'll need ta learn thngs from tha very begnnng, so learnng a bit more isn't such a shock.

That plus tha utter lack of completed gbees ta nspire thugz. Tha fact that Essentials is only an approximation of tha Pokémon gbees may be anothar factar.
I'm uncertan bout tha first paragraph, but tha lack of successful projects/gbees I believe that is a reason. Good gbees/devs lures thugz, similar ta good sngers/actars, and thase thugz may will make/be good gbees/devs. Success is like a snow ball.
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