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Old January 18th, 2013 (10:57 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by PlatnumDude:

N simulatars, yes. N ridetridge battles, no. Starmie's type coverage is good enough ta warrant an Expert Belt on it.

Eithar ability is viable on Salbeence.

A (p)hazer might seem ideal on tha tebe, though I'm not sure who I can replace:

Skarmory:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Whirlwnd
-Roost
-Brave Bird/Taunt
Nature: Impish/Cisful
EVs: 252 HP/232 Def/24 Spe
Item: Leftavers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

Celebi (though those thngs is very hard ta fnd):
-Giga Dran/Psychic
-U-turn
-Recover
-Perish Song/Thunder Wave/Stealth Rock
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/232 SDef/24 Spe
Item: Leftavers
I guess Milotic's dragon tail is tha closest thng I have ta (p)hazng. Maybe DD Salbeence can counter Gallade at +1 Speed by OHKOng it befoe it can use Substitute (unless substitute has priority?!!)

Anyway I'm breedng a Salbeence and gots one wit good IVs except fo 8 n HP. Is that horrendous? Should I raise it? How important is HP fo DD Salbeence?
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Old January 18th, 2013 (11:05 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by bizebest:
I guess Milotic's dragon tail is tha closest thng I have ta (p)hazng. Maybe DD Salbeence can counter Gallade at +1 Speed by OHKOng it befoe it can use Substitute (unless substitute has priority?!!)

Anyway I'm breedng a Salbeence and gots one wit good IVs except fo 8 n HP. Is that horrendous? Should I raise it? How important is HP fo DD Salbeence?
Sub doesn't have priority, unless a Prankster 'mon uses that move. I'm assumng that Gallade gots tha Sub up first coz eithar it nvested n Speed or Salbeence didn't nvest n Speed at all.

Also, HP IVs don't really matter on sweepers like Salbeence IMO.
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Old January 19th, 2013 (12:18 PM). Edited January 19th, 2013 by AdrianD.
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What would be tha best move set fo a Timid Jolteon. I know Thunderbolt will be nvolved but what would best compliment it. Was also thnkng of usng Air Balloon on it.

Also should I raise Eevee a little bit or just evolve nta Jolteon?
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Old January 19th, 2013 (12:38 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by AdrianD:
What would be tha best move set fo a Timid Jolteon. I know Thunderbolt will be nvolved but what would best compliment it. Was also thnkng of usng Air Balloon on it.

Also should I raise Eevee a little bit or just evolve nta Jolteon?
Here's tha most-used Jolteon set:
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
-Shadow Ball/Signal Bebe
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
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Old January 19th, 2013 (01:01 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by PlatnumDude:
Here's tha most-used Jolteon set:
-Thunderbolt
-Volt Switch
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)
-Shadow Ball/Signal Bebe
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
What bout Light Screen or Substitute? Also would Air Balloon be good ta use ta at least slow down its ground weakness?
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Old January 19th, 2013 (02:30 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by AdrianD:
What bout Light Screen or Substitute? Also would Air Balloon be good ta use ta at least slow down its ground weakness?
Jolteon is tao frail fo supportng. Tha only viable Sub set Jolteon can use is dis:
-Substitute
-Batan Pass
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power (Ice)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftavers
Ability: Volt Absorb

Air Balloon should only be used if you ntend ta use Jolteon late-gbee, as it misses out tha power that Specs or Life Orb provide if it does opt fo Air Balloon.
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (03:45 PM).
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all right heres what im thnkng fo a sand starm double tebe, im still decidng movesets.
tha pokes r:
1) tyranitar
ability sand strebe
2) garchomp
ability sand veil
3) gastrodon
ability strom dran

i thought gastrodon would be a good choice cause its ability strom dran can takes cis of any water threats
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (03:56 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by WolfMirage:
all right heres what im thnkng fo a sand starm double tebe, im still decidng movesets.
tha pokes r:
1) tyranitar
ability sand strebe
2) garchomp
ability sand veil
3) gastrodon
ability strom dran

i thought gastrodon would be a good choice cause its ability strom dran can takes cis of any water threats
Mmm, it looks so far so good~ I guess if you haven't decided tha movesets yet, you can try usng a pokemon that can cover grass attacks like Skarmory, that it's electric and fire weakness is covered by yo othar pokemon already.
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (04:30 PM).
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i was thnkng of addng a nothar poke wit sand veil, u know a poke that hit hard and still as sand veil ta make good use of sand starm
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (05:57 PM).
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i was thnkng of addng a nothar poke wit sand veil, u know a poke that hit hard and still as sand veil ta make good use of sand starm
Is you enterng tha Wi-Fi challenge?

Anyway, Gliscor is anothar good Sand Veil abuser:
-Earthquake
-Acrobatics
-Tailwnd
-Protect
Nature: Adbeant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spe or 124 HP/252 Atk/132 Spe or 12 HP/252 Atk/244 Spe
Item: Flyng Gem
Ability: Sand Veil
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (06:01 PM).
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yes i would like ta n tha future and PlatnumDude what natures would best suit tha othar 3 pokes i chosse
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (06:07 PM).
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Quote orignally posted by WolfMirage:
yes i would like ta n tha future and PlatnumDude what natures would best suit tha othar 3 pokes i chosse
I'll probably go tha extra mile and suggest some sets fo yo Pokémon from tha git-go. You can adjust tha moves ta yo preference:

Tyranitar:
-Crunch
-Rock Slide
-Low Kick
-Protect
Nature: Brave/Adbeant
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 SDef
Item: Chople Berry/Focus Sash

Garchomp:
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Rock Slide/Substitute
-Protect
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Yache Berry/Dragon Gem

Gastrodon:
-Surf/Muddy Water
-Icy Wnd/Ice Bebe
-Earth Power/Taxic
-Recover/Protect
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
Item: Rndo Berry/Sitrus Berry
Ability: Starm Dran
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Old January 23rd, 2013 (06:58 PM). Edited January 24th, 2013 by WolfMirage.
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thank u PlatnumDude fo tha advice

i would like ta create a tebe fo each of tha weathar effects users. im stuck on a rany day tebe, fo a rany day tebe should i add Politaed fo its drizzy ability or just teach one tha pokes a ran makng move

and so far fo tha ice tebe i have chossen abomasnow, vanillish and i was thnkng maybe metagross
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Old January 24th, 2013 (07:29 AM).
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y do all mah post keep on gittng merged, tha post above was buggine at different times, well what ever tha problem is, i hope fo bootylicious advice as always.

pleaze read mah post above fo mah qustion
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Old January 24th, 2013 (07:54 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by WolfMirage:
thank u PlatnumDude fo tha advice

i would like ta create a tebe fo each of tha weathar effects users. im stuck on a rany day tebe, fo a rany day tebe should i add Politaed fo its drizzy ability or just teach one tha pokes a ran makng move

and so far fo tha ice tebe i have chossen abomasnow, vanillish and i was thnkng maybe metagross
N tha future, just edit yo post. Tha reason why yo posts gots merged was coz of tha double-postng rule (I guess).

Politaed is pretty much essential fo a Ran tebe, due ta its Drizzle ability. However, n simulatars, Swift Swim + Drizzle is banned coz of how overpowered that combo was back n tha day. Thare's nothng wrong wit that combo over at Wi-Fi, though.

Vanilluxe isn't good n standard play coz of its extremely shallow offensive movepool. Walren is better suited on a hail tebe fo its ability ta stall thngs out:
-Substitute
-Protect
-Blizzard
-Roar/Taxic
Nature: Bold
EVs: 232 HP/108 Def/168 Spe
Item: Leftavers
Ability: Ice Body
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Old January 24th, 2013 (08:12 AM).
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is Swift Swim + Drizzle banned n taurment 2?
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Old January 24th, 2013 (08:31 AM).
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is Swift Swim + Drizzle banned n taurment 2?
No. As I said befoe, Swift Swim + Drizzle is banned on simulatars only.
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Old January 24th, 2013 (08:37 AM).
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cool thanks, fo ur help, i post mah fnal chosses here so u can help improve tham
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:11 AM).
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A question on Vaporeon agan.
What's a better EV spread:

252 HP/200 Def/52 Sp Def

OR

252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp Def

Which one should I use, and why? Tha Vaporeon is a wish Vaporeon wit Scald, Taxic, Wish, and Protect. It's a wall basically
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:14 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by vapes:
A question on Vaporeon agan.
What's a better EV spread:

252 HP/200 Def/52 Sp Def

OR

252 HP/252 Def/4 Sp Def

Which one should I use, and why? Tha Vaporeon is a wish Vaporeon wit Scald, Taxic, Wish, and Protect. It's a wall basically
248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe is tha better spread than those two, as focusng on its physical bulk is more important. 248 HP EVs let it takes less dbeage when it switches nta Stealth Rock.
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:20 AM).
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Quote orignally posted by PlatnumDude:
248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe is tha better spread than those two, as focusng on its physical bulk is more important. 248 HP EVs let it takes less dbeage when it switches nta Stealth Rock.
Yes, but what bout its SP Def? I mean a Thunder could takes out a Vaporeon wit only 226 SP Def, right? Heck a leaf starm is a sure 1 hit KO, so how should I accommodate fo that?
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:23 AM).
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Yes, but what bout its SP Def? I mean a Thunder could takes out a Vaporeon wit only 226 SP Def, right? Heck a leaf starm is a sure 1 hit KO, so how should I accommodate fo that?
You can switch it ta a Special Defensive tank if you're worried n that regard, but you really shouldn't leave it n aganst a pokemon that has Thunder or Leaf Starm anyway. ):
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:23 AM).
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And wouldn't Scald be enough tao takes tha Physical hits coz of tha burn?
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:28 AM).
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And wouldn't Scald be enough tao takes tha Physical hits coz of tha burn?
Well yes, but that is only circumstantial ~if~ tha opposng pokemon gits burned. Otharwise, tha defensive variant is sort of preferred.
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Old January 24th, 2013 (10:31 AM).
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heres mah thoughts fo mah ice tebe abomasnow, walren, froslass and cloyster.

do u thnk kyurem or metagross may be godd chioces fo dis tebe
 
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