Evolution/Pre-evolution Speculation

[Twilight Sky]

Dragon/Steel as a typing would be a pretty interesting concept~! Weaknesses would be somewhat of a worry for Druddigon's possible evolution(what with being weak to Ground and Fighting, two common types in competitive), I can definitely see it being more lethal then, as long as it's stats aren't ridiculously off the charts. XD

At least that way it could possibly be used more since it would have a better type? I'd at least appreciate it being somewhat faster!

[roosterman]

Originally Posted by vaporeon7

A Combee pre-evolution would be too weak, Combee is one of the weakest Pokémon as it is.

They wouldn't have to make a Druddigon evolution too powerful. Take a look at Scizor for example, it didn't get a higher BST after evolving, it just had it's stats changed around. They could do that if they wanted.

its not really for competitive play but more because it makes no sense that it starts out as 3 pokemon together. but they could make it learn some moves its evolutions can't learn. kind of like how wynaut seems kind of pointless until you notice that it learns encore which is a great move for wobbuffet to know.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky

Dragon/Steel as a typing would be a pretty interesting concept~! Weaknesses would be somewhat of a worry for Druddigon's possible evolution(what with being weak to Ground and Fighting, two common types in competitive), I can definitely see it being more lethal then, as long as it's stats aren't ridiculously off the charts. XD

At least that way it could possibly be used more since it would have a better type? I'd at least appreciate it being somewhat faster!

n it wouldn't be used in OU imo. It seems like it'd stay in the lower tiers because in general I'm not sure why anyone would want to use a Druddigon evolution. ;(

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by roosterman

its not really for competitive play but more because it makes no sense that it starts out as 3 pokemon together. but they could make it learn some moves its evolutions can't learn. kind of like how wynaut seems kind of pointless until you notice that it learns encore which is a great move for wobbuffet to know.

The point for Combee is more or less based on bees serving the queen of the hive, hence Vespiqueen(at least, I believe so). Wynaut and Wobbuffet are pretty much the same concept, different Pokemon for different tiers, with more or less the same moves.

Also, Encore isn't so much a great move anymore since it got nerfed in 5th gen from 6 turns to 3 turns(I think), so it's more or less kind of useless. :x

n it wouldn't be used in OU imo. It seems like it'd stay in the lower tiers because in general I'm not sure why anyone would want to use a Druddigon evolution. ;(

Never said it would be OU. It'd best be safer in something like NU or RU, tbh.

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky

Also, Encore isn't so much a great move anymore since it got nerfed in 5th gen from 6 turns to 3 turns(I think), so it's more or less kind of useless. :x

Never said it would be OU. It'd best be safer in something like NU or RU, tbh.

n I'd say UU, actually. Given that its child would be in RU (or possibly higher given it has Eviolite in this situation) I think it'd be higher given it'd most likely be more powerful~

Also Encore is still good: meet Liepard. ;)

[MiTjA]

I wanna add to the Pinsir-evo discussion from last page.


Frankly, I don't think it's gonna happen...since they gave it a new bro in Heracross right away... And with Scyther gaining no stats with evolution, its much more like a forme than an evolution..except its one-way.
What I'm trying to say is, Scyther can still be regarded as an end-stage Pokemon. Its not like every other pre-evolution which you just wanna evolve. So Pinsir and Scyther are still meant to be "compared", if that's the right word.

But I wish Pinsir would get one anyway, because its new bro, Heracross has this unfair extra Fighting type, which basically makes it much closer to Scizor in usefulness, while Pinsir is barely ever used even though its stats are 500 total like the other two...

As for the type it would gain.
Steel? No, if they were to do that, it wuld have been with Metal Coat along Scizor.
Fighting? Eh, that would make it more like Heracross than is healthy.

Nope, what Pinsir already looks like it could gain is....the other very special type...that was introduced alongside Steel: Dark.


But lets get realistic. The best one could hope for Pinsir is to gain a Bug type Quick Attack move called Beetle Smack or something xDDDD

[PokémonShinySilver]

Originally Posted by MiTjA

I wanna add to the Pinsir-evo discussion from last page.


Frankly, I don't think it's gonna happen...since they gave it a new bro in Heracross right away... And with Scyther gaining no stats with evolution, its much more like a forme than an evolution..except its one-way.
What I'm trying to say is, Scyther can still be regarded as an end-stage Pokemon. Its not like every other pre-evolution which you just wanna evolve. So Pinsir and Scyther are still meant to be "compared", if that's the right word.

But I wish Pinsir would get one anyway, because its new bro, Heracross has this unfair extra Fighting type, which basically makes it much closer to Scizor in usefulness, while Pinsir is barely ever used even though its stats are 500 total like the other two...

As for the type it would gain.
Steel? No, if they were to do that, it wuld have been with Metal Coat along Scizor.
Fighting? Eh, that would make it more like Heracross than is healthy.

Nope, what Pinsir already looks like it could gain is....the other very special type...that was introduced alongside Steel: Dark.


But lets get realistic. The best one could hope for Pinsir is to gain a Bug type Quick Attack move called Beetle Smack or something xDDDD

Actually, anything is possible! It doesn't have to always be traded with a Metal Coat that would turn a Pokémon into a Steel-type. Think of Leafeon for instance, it didn't evolve with a Leaf Stone, it evolved while leveling up next to a moss covered rock in every games prior to Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. ;)

It would be cool to see a new evolution of Pinsir. And who knows? It could end up having wings and exoskeleton covering it's wings like the beetles found in real life, and would end up appearing in a similar form to Heracross, but much more metallic. :D

[Forever]

I want fighting. ;( Because then Pinsir can be the better Sawk of NU for a while! And that'll be v good imo. :3

[Twilight Sky]

And yet I'm wondering whether or not this Pinsir evo would be too similar to Heracross or not. u___u Meaning idk whether it would be redundant/unnecessary....

[Forever]

n they can be different. Like Gastrodon, Seismitoad and Quagsire are different. :)

[Sirius]

Main wants - Flying/Fighting Farfetch'd evo, Shuckle evo, Dunsparce Evo, Stunfisk evo.

Simply because those pokemon have no real validity to them. Sure Shuckle can be a good wall, but he can't really do anything before Toxic finishes him off.

[Twilight Sky]

Originally Posted by Forever

n they can be different. Like Gastrodon, Seismitoad and Quagsire are different. :)

You raise a good point here, but Pinsir is already a lot like Heracross, minus the fighting type. Maybe I'm just not seeing things right. I mean, they both have high attack power, high defensive power, and learn more or less the same moves, so.. u_u I guess I'm just questioning how an evo would really set it apart from Heracross.

[Pinkie-Dawn]

I sincerely hope the only evolution to a Gen 1 Pokemon to appear in Gen VI is the rumored Eeveelution, because I'm trying to add 8 Pokemon on my reorganized Kanto dex to make it 190, as what GF was originally going to include in the first game, and I'm using the cross-gen evos that added up to 182 (or 183 if we include the new Eeveelution).

[Twilight Sky]

If we do get a new eeveelution(s), then I hope that these eveelution forms would be the last forms eevee gets for a while. x_x;; At least for the next generation, imo.

[aegisrox]

I agree with littlebigkaid

i hope that they add new evolutions of Eevee :D

More, more, more evolutions of eevee XD

[Twilight Sky]

I honestly hope they don't. Again, one or two more but that's really just about it. I just fear it might cross the line and become overkill. ._.

[Forever]

I just hope it doesn't end up being all types in regards to Eevee evolutions. :x That'll be going a little TOO far...

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Would it now, it is the evolution pokemon after all so it'll make sense if it can evolve to one of every type. I like to think of Eevee as the Arceus of Evolutions (goes from Normal to all types only by evolution not by using plates).

[123jozef]

So we had no new eeveelutions in Hoenn or Unova, but do you think we should have some new members of the family in X and Y? And if so, what type and appearance would they have?

I'd like to see a flying type the resembles a cloud in some way, or maybe even a fighting type, but I can't really think of how it would look

Your thoughts?

[The_Mew]

Fighting type would propably be awkward, seeing as it still has to be an 4 legged creature. And there aren't that many, if not none, 4 legged fighting ones out there.... A ghost type would be awesome..

[Left 4 good]

If Eevee turned into a flying cloud pokemon, I can only picture Altaria but with a differn't face, though a dragon type would be cool but it'd have to be relatively small and look cool, but yeh a fighting type if anything would be the most expected.

[123jozef]

Ooh a ghost, yeah that would be cool. With the flying type thing I was thinking of it not necessarily having wings, but being very light so it can be pushed by wind easily (like jigglypuff and jumpluff) It would still be a dog thingy

[Forever]

Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire

Would it now, it is the evolution pokemon after all so it'll make sense if it can evolve to one of every type. I like to think of Eevee as the Arceus of Evolutions (goes from Normal to all types only by evolution not by using plates).

But if it did that in one generation that'd be kind of crazy, tho. Leaving it at one or two would be fine but I think with all the talk of evolutions of the evolutions it should just not go too far. :(

[Aerilyn]

Originally Posted by Forever

But if it did that in one generation that'd be kind of crazy, tho. Leaving it at one or two would be fine but I think with all the talk of evolutions of the evolutions it should just not go too far. :(

Even though I think Eevee getting an evolution for every type is a bit much, I'm not totally against the idea. Perhaps it's because of all the beautiful fanart that makes me see it in such a positive light, but I wouldn't mind. Except, it would have to be spread out. Keeping it to one or two new Eeveelutions every other generation is a pretty good gap. To get too much all at one time would make it seem far more excessive than it actually is.

However, the thought of eeveelutions getting their own evolutions or even alternate forms? That's just pushing it.

[Magmaruby and Aquasapphire]

Oh no, I didn't mean all in one gen...that'll be pushing it.
Though if I had to pick I'll rather have them do the former special types only and have the already existing one's evolve...