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View Poll Results: Who is the hardest Hoenn Gym Leader?
Roxanne 5 1.77%
Brawly 24 8.51%
Wattson 26 9.22%
Flannery 7 2.48%
Norman 51 18.09%
Winona 22 7.80%
Tate & Liza 128 45.39%
Wallace/Juan 19 6.74%
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:57 PM
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Oh man, so many to say.

They were all pretty tough, but Watson, Norman and even Roxanne stand out for me. Man they were annoying. Lately been having plenty of trouble with Brawly too, especially on Emerald.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 10:11 PM
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Didn't like Tate and Liza.

Don't exactly have fond memories with them. ._.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 07:49 PM
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Flannery. I know that sounds weird, but on my first playthrough, I only had a couple of Pokemon, those being Sceptile and Swellow. So yeah, not exactly a great matchup. I ended up winning on a crit anyway.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:47 PM
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Tate & Liza , there starting combo is so hard to get passed..
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Old February 20th, 2013, 02:20 PM
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Brawly always gives Swampert a rough time.
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 02:20 PM
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Had to be Flannery, as in my last run I had to try four times to win against her.
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 08:08 PM
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tate and liza. they overwellmed me with their double battle tactics
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 05:01 PM
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tate and liza. I hated them so much. earlier in my pokemon days i would only raise one or two pokemon. i thought if i did that i should be overleveled. i was wrong. when i got to them, they wiped the floor with me. i was a bit stupid for getting 2 wailords and no sharpedos. at that time i didnt think anything about types.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 05:20 PM
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Roxanne's Nosepass used to grind my gears, I also remember Norman's Slaking causing problems
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 07:18 PM
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Since I don't use a set team, the gym leaders' strategies aren't much of an issue. I rotate through pokemon constantly, and for gym battles, I put together a team specifically for that gym, so I always have multiple ways of dealing with something if one doesn't work (which got me through Tate and Liza fine). The only things that pose a problem are individual pokemon who are good enough on their own that they're a challenge even though I'm prepared for them. Of those, the toughest is probably Juan's Kingdra, followed closely by Wallace's Milotic, so that's my vote. Norman's Slaking isn't far behind though.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 08:07 AM
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Tate & Liza, then Norman is a close second (or third...). Lunatone and Solrock whopped my ass a bunch of times until I was able to beat them, and Slaking gave me a really hard time too.
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Old March 6th, 2013, 07:29 PM
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Tate And Liza. All the Way. I can't count the number of times I had to fight them before I won. Unless you bothered to pick up a Duskull or a Mudkip at the beginning, you really couldn't fight against them
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Old March 7th, 2013, 05:06 AM
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It usually depends on who my starter is but it'll be Tate and Liza if I didn't start with Mudkip and it'll be Norman if I didn't start with Torchic.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 08:49 AM
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The third gym (Wattson) was really annoying.. he kept using Shock Wave all over again.. I mean, he used it nine times in a row. Even worse, every time I changed my Pokémon, it didn't even get the chance to strike against him..
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Old March 9th, 2013, 10:07 AM
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Tate & Liza were in my opinion the hardest Gym Leaders. Both their pokemon had a way higher Level than mine at that time and they always teamed up on one of my pokemon.
Since i always pick Torchic, these guys were always extra hard for me
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Old March 11th, 2013, 12:52 PM
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I would say Wallace, it is hard taking out all water types with all water types....
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Old March 11th, 2013, 01:06 PM
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Tate and Liza.
I usually pick Torchic for 3rd Gen runs (and it's my second favorite Pokémon, so...), which ends up with me usually struggling against dem Earthquakes.
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Old March 11th, 2013, 04:50 PM
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No matter what starter I pick, Winona actually gives me a ton of trouble. Her Altaria is just...ugh.

Watson is sometimes tough, as is Norman.

Tate and Liza are only tough in Emerald.
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Old March 28th, 2013, 10:34 AM
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man! all are easy!!!! but I think tate and liza will be hard for them...
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Old March 28th, 2013, 12:08 PM
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For me Tate and Lisa were absolute pushovers, but Flannery knocked my team flat multiple times in my last run, it got annoying.
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Old March 28th, 2013, 12:17 PM
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Tate and Liza were pretty damn hard back when I played Emerald my first time. Probably cause my team revolved around my starter and my legend lol. When I actually put in strategy and effort they were all pretty easy, 'cept Norman. That damn Slaking.
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I would have to agree with SlitWeaver Norman was by far the hardest for me because of his Slaking as well. Its defense was indestructible and I always had a balanced team with a lot of speed so it took all of my pokémon out with only about two shots.
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I recently started replaying Emerald a few days back, and after 10 tries w/ Brawly, Tate&Liza are so much more difficult. Time to catch a sharpedo, I guess!
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 02:06 PM
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WOW. Where to start. Well, for me, "Daddy" is the hardest, Slaking with that Yawn and high defense... *shivers* But all of them had their own strengths, and the difficulty is really based on who you have on your team. Even with Treecko Roxanne's Nosepass was hard. Then Wattson the Magnemite/Magneton's typing made it difficult since I didn't have anyone strong for fighting against him. Tate and Liza were actually easy, seeing I'd carry a Mightyena and Sceptile for a Bite/Leaf Blade combo.
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