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Old April 5th, 2013, 03:30 PM
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By league I meant the gyms too, thus we're made to explore the region so that we can challenge the E4 and champion xD.

Xander raised an interesting point in the Mewtwo thread, that with all the mentioning of Kanto in the anime, and now Mewtwo's suppose new forme, joking about Kanto remakes. I thought back to the idea that Kanto may appear in these games...it has appeared in every generation except for that of it's clone (gen V). Could Kanto perhaps reappear in these games after all?
That's an interesting point.

I dare point out that the reason Kanto wasn't in Gen. V is because HG/SS were on the same system, and thus it was irrelevant to redo it somewhere else. However, the move to the 3DS means another chance to rebuild Kanto.

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Old April 5th, 2013, 03:39 PM
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Oh right, same reason Hoenn wasn't remade for the Ds (would've been dumb to have two sets of remakes in one system as thus far they've been in different systems). It would be a good time as any for it to pop up again...hopefully it'll have more of a purpose this time should it appear, than it did in GSC and their remakes.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 03:57 PM
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Oh right, same reason Hoenn wasn't remade for the Ds (would've been dumb to have two sets of remakes in one system as thus far they've been in different systems). It would be a good time as any for it to pop up again...hopefully it'll have more of a purpose this time should it appear, than it did in GSC and their remakes.
I'd love for it to be required before the E4, actually, to clear the second set of Gyms. But they won't do that.

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I'd love for it to be required before the E4, actually, to clear the second set of Gyms. But they won't do that.

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Wait, how do you know if they'll include Hoenn into the new games or not? Do you work for Nintendo or Game Freak? Jeez, I honestly hate when people come to conclusions when they seriously don't know what they're talking about...
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Old April 5th, 2013, 05:28 PM
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It would be nice, but I dont see them adding a whole second region. I can see small additional areas being added via DLC but not a whole region.
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It would be cool if we could travel to another region but it will probably make gameplay on the new region a lot shorter. It would be cool though if we get to explore one other map (excluding the main region) like in firered/leafgreen. :3
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Old April 5th, 2013, 06:53 PM
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Wait, how do you know if they'll include Hoenn into the new games or not? Do you work for Nintendo or Game Freak? Jeez, I honestly hate when people come to conclusions when they seriously don't know what they're talking about...
Let me rephrase.

If they were to include a second (past) region, I would love to see both sets of Gyms required before the E4.

If I gave the conclusion that there is a second reason, I apologize for that lack of clarity on my part.

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Old April 5th, 2013, 07:49 PM
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Lol we were talking about Kanto not Hoenn xD.
I don't see Hoenn appearing as they'll proably want to save it for possible remakes, and Kanto or Johto will be the best options if they wish to include an old one as they've already had their remakes, so we can have a return there with a new story.
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If Hoenn did appear I'd think it'd be a smaller version. Like we could only visit parts, which'd be a taste for the next games!
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Hoenn is honestly a super huge region (at least, from what I can remember). I highly doubt that we'll able to access all of the region because that would be a ridiculous amount of Hoenn to cover (including all of the surfing areas, and I'd imagine that would be a nightmare for some people).

I'd imagine probably half the region being accessible, but probably not much more than that? Unless they can somehow fit something that big in this game...
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 01:42 AM
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Hoenn is honestly a super huge region (at least, from what I can remember). I highly doubt that we'll able to access all of the region because that would be a ridiculous amount of Hoenn to cover (including all of the surfing areas, and I'd imagine that would be a nightmare for some people).

I'd imagine probably half the region being accessible, but probably not much more than that? Unless they can somehow fit something that big in this game...
Yeah if they fit it all in I don't think it'd turn out very good, because they'd skip on other things, whereas if there were just a few places it wouldn't seem too... crazy?
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 05:52 AM
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Yeah if they fit it all in I don't think it'd turn out very good, because they'd skip on other things, whereas if there were just a few places it wouldn't seem too... crazy?
Fit a few places that were memorable, and you'd get full support from me. Sootopolis City, Mossdeep, Mauville, places that kind of stick out to most players, y'know? I feel that saving the important cities/landmarks is more important than anything else, and we could skip out on the other towns that didn't really make a difference in the game.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 06:31 AM
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Fit a few places that were memorable, and you'd get full support from me. Sootopolis City, Mossdeep, Mauville, places that kind of stick out to most players, y'know? I feel that saving the important cities/landmarks is more important than anything else, and we could skip out on the other towns that didn't really make a difference in the game.
Per the post above the quoted one, Sootopolis is in the huge surfing area. Unless Lilicove City cannot be exited to the west, or there's a blockage not far away, it would be a ridiculous amount of area for a "mini" Hoenn. I say either do it all or do it none.

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I don't think X & Y will have you revisit the past regions. But I would like to see Hoenn or Sinnoh again on the 3DS.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 06:59 AM
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Per the post above the quoted one, Sootopolis is in the huge surfing area. Unless Lilicove City cannot be exited to the west, or there's a blockage not far away, it would be a ridiculous amount of area for a "mini" Hoenn. I say either do it all or do it none.

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Fair point, I brought up Sootopolis because it's the only city to this day that you would have to go to by diving, hence being (technically but not technically) the first and only underwater city, in a sense. But I believe that this is a valid point, also. Doing it partial would just be kind of messy, so might as well do it all or just don't do it at all.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 08:20 AM
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Fair point, I brought up Sootopolis because it's the only city to this day that you would have to go to by diving, hence being (technically but not technically) the first and only underwater city, in a sense. But I believe that this is a valid point, also. Doing it partial would just be kind of messy, so might as well do it all or just don't do it at all.
Throw in that hackers would try to walk beyond the area that is blocked off. It would have to be a cave or something that has been blockaded due to danger, and hackers who insist on trying to go in just find an empty cave blocked by rocks. Problem is, I don't think a lot of caves exist. They could use the entire loop up to Mauville and block the cave on Route 117 heading back to the starting area, but not sure about to the south. Similarly, they'd have to block off Route 111 as well, though there is another cave on 112 and the lift can be dismantled that would take you to the mountain, with a new access to Lavaridge Town that doesn't involve hopping from the volcano. That leaves only blocking to the south on Route 109 somehow, and the northern section of Route 111...well, yeah, it would be messy. A volcano eruption on Route 113, perhaps, closing the Route with fire at the end of 111? That can be the reason Mt. Chimney is closed, too.

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Have they confirmed that its a brand new region?

Because we don't know. The game could take place in the Kanto region. And your goal is to go to all of the other regions and beat them all.

But the travel between Regions...would be hard to picture from a small DS chip. But the Japanese are crafty people. They could pull it off.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 10:19 AM
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Have they confirmed that its a brand new region?

Because we don't know. The game could take place in the Kanto region. And your goal is to go to all of the other regions and beat them all.

But the travel between Regions...would be hard to picture from a small DS chip. But the Japanese are crafty people. They could pull it off.
But why would it be in Kanto, the very region that we've had to play through about 3 or 4 times already? Why would it take place in any other region bar Hoenn (and probably Sinnoh), which is the only region that has not been featured in any re-make whatsoever? It just doesn't make sense to me, I suppose. It would make far more sense to just start over on a new region than continue in an existing one, because a lot of us have already explored the regions that have existed already. It would be a redundant and unnecessary move to include some of them again. .__.
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It can't be Kanto as Kanto's route 3 looks radically different than what we saw in the trailer (Route 3 of this new region showed up). So it's pretty much set that it's a new region.

I'll rather they do Johto than Kanto for a return to tbh as I prefer Johto way more than Kanto, plus I feel Johto may be forgotten now that it's had it's remakes...
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It's also not Hoenn (or Sinnoh) as the Routes were 103, 203, etc.

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I left those two off do to the 103, and 203 xD. It's also not Unova's route 3 either...
If Kanto or Unova are in this game the routes are going be confusing for newbies, "wait Route 3? Wasn't there a route 3 in XYZ region? What?"
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As stated, the games are definitely not set in an old region. Honestly, if anything is going to happen in an old region it's going to be a remake, although a new story in one would be a cool concept. I wouldn't like it like GSC's Kanto though, as the was a very bare-bones story line. If we're going to travel to another region, give us an entire story to traverse through, not just Gym Leader fights with minimal story aspects in between.
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I do agree that with Routes starting at 1 (3 is there, clearly) that there will be no second region added. It's too bad, really. Hoenn used 1xx because the other releases that generation used 1-25 in Kanto, and Sinnoh used 2xx for the same reason, except it was 1-48 for Johto included. Since Hoenn and Sinnoh used alternate numbers, it means that we could still see them this generation, more likely Hoenn, but we have to wait for official news on that.

They also won't give it to us nine months early like with a new game because we all know the games already.

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As stated, the games are definitely not set in an old region. Honestly, if anything is going to happen in an old region it's going to be a remake, although a new story in one would be a cool concept. I wouldn't like it like GSC's Kanto though, as the was a very bare-bones story line. If we're going to travel to another region, give us an entire story to traverse through, not just Gym Leader fights with minimal story aspects in between.
Totally agreeing with this post here. The problem I see a lot of these games is that they're kind of the standard, cookie-cutter things that I've mentioned in this thread here. Which is I'm a fan of just starting over on a new region, perhaps a new journey, new concept, everything, because I feel that in my mind, it'll kind of leave a fresh taste in my mouth exploring the new region and whatnot.
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I take back the Kanto thing, it was a very stupid idea XD, because it just struck me that. That I hope the new region takes place instead of a new regional island but on Mainland Kanto-Johto, because I don't think the up northern part of the two regions have been exposed much.

Call me out if I'm wrong, but I think North of Kanto-Johto havent been used yet. Plus it would be easy if the region is up there, and we can travel to either Kanto or Johto, with ease.
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