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Old April 13th, 2013 (06:47 AM).
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Yeah, thus far everything new is focused on gen 1... I'll like some more focus on generations 2-6 related mons. And a 6 gen especially as it won't result in a 'they changed it, now it sucks' response from half of the vocal minority of the fan base...well not to the extent of changing gen 1's Pokémon.
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Old April 13th, 2013 (07:08 AM).
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Generation 5 should get a lot of attention soon imo. I mean we're still part way through B2W2, so at least they could give us a few Pokemon related to gen 5 mons. :x
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Old April 13th, 2013 (07:13 AM).
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Generation 5 should get a lot of attention soon imo. I mean we're still part way through B2W2, so at least they could give us a few Pokemon related to gen 5 mons. :x
I think GF is still trying to win back the older fans by focusing more on the Gen 1 Pokemon, hence the creation of Mewtwo's new forme, after Gen V caused a lot of controversy within the fanbase, from the changes I've listed from my old thread regarding Gen V. It just shows that past consumers share an important to keep Pokemon alive, or else Pokemon is finished even with a new generation of children.
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Old April 13th, 2013 (09:35 AM).
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As I said before in the evolution thread I'm hoping it focuses on gen 3, 4, and 5. Gen 3 has lots of single member families they can add to a la Roselia. And Gen IV didn't get any cross generational evolutions due to Gen V's no relation to old mon's rule. And Gen V due to what Forever just said. I don't want Johto to get ignored though :x
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Old April 13th, 2013 (10:04 AM).
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I think GF is still trying to win back the older fans by focusing more on the Gen 1 Pokemon, hence the creation of Mewtwo's new forme, after Gen V caused a lot of controversy within the fanbase, from the changes I've listed from my old thread regarding Gen V. It just shows that past consumers share an important to keep Pokemon alive, or else Pokemon is finished even with a new generation of children.
I really dont think that's the reason. I think they simply want to use this to add on to Mewtwo's story so they made a new forme for it. Pokemon is far from finished. We dont even know how many Gen 1 evolutions there may end up being. The Gen 5 games were fine.

I personally am seeing a mix of evos from previous generations but how many I dont know. I really want more to see new evolutionary families, that's what I care much more about.
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I think GF is still trying to win back the older fans by focusing more on the Gen 1 Pokemon, hence the creation of Mewtwo's new forme, after Gen V caused a lot of controversy within the fanbase, from the changes I've listed from my old thread regarding Gen V. It just shows that past consumers share an important to keep Pokemon alive, or else Pokemon is finished even with a new generation of children.
This seems pretty plausible~! Though honestly, I hope they focus more on Gen III Pokemon than anything else this time around. Hoenn just seems to have been largely ignored these past two generations (except when Gardevoir got a split-evo Gen IV as well as a few other Pokemon, but that's hardly anything, I think), so I'd like for GF to revisit more Hoenn pokes and base more Pokemon on that kind of style, if anything.

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I really dont think that's the reason. I think they simply want to use this to add on to Mewtwo's story so they made a new forme for it.
Mewtwo had a story to it? oO; Forgive me, since I've actually never played RBY, but from what I keep hearing, it seems that Mewtwo played a fairly minor role in the grand scheme of things, not really having much of a story at all.
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Old April 13th, 2013 (11:07 AM).
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This seems pretty plausible~! Though honestly, I hope they focus more on Gen III Pokemon than anything else this time around. Hoenn just seems to have been largely ignored these past two generations (except when Gardevoir got a split-evo Gen IV as well as a few other Pokemon, but that's hardly anything, I think), so I'd like for GF to revisit more Hoenn pokes and base more Pokemon on that kind of style, if anything.



Mewtwo had a story to it? oO; Forgive me, since I've actually never played RBY, but from what I keep hearing, it seems that Mewtwo played a fairly minor role in the grand scheme of things, not really having much of a story at all.
In the games, it was found in a cave. There wasn't a huge storyline. You also couldn't explore the cave until after the E4, as a bonus for being the Champion.

In the first movie, he created an island battlefield and such to clone Pokémon for his new society.

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Mewtwo had a story to it? oO; Forgive me, since I've actually never played RBY, but from what I keep hearing, it seems that Mewtwo played a fairly minor role in the grand scheme of things, not really having much of a story at all.
Well, it had a back story, but, it's back story was only hinted upon some stray books in the Pokemon Mansion in Cinnabar Island.

But again, these were only vague, as in, there were such diary entries like..

"Mew gave birth.
We named the newborn Mewtwo."

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"Mewtwo is far too powerful.
We have failed to curb its vicious tendencies…"

Things like that.
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This seems pretty plausible~! Though honestly, I hope they focus more on Gen III Pokemon than anything else this time around. Hoenn just seems to have been largely ignored these past two generations (except when Gardevoir got a split-evo Gen IV as well as a few other Pokemon, but that's hardly anything, I think), so I'd like for GF to revisit more Hoenn pokes and base more Pokemon on that kind of style, if anything.



Mewtwo had a story to it? oO; Forgive me, since I've actually never played RBY, but from what I keep hearing, it seems that Mewtwo played a fairly minor role in the grand scheme of things, not really having much of a story at all.
I felt like Gen 5 forgot Johto and Hoenn for the most part as most the references were of Kanto and Sinnoh...Team Rocket and Galactic being mentioned, and Cynthia appearing. Though Team Rocket was also Johto's villains...so for the most part Hoenn's were ignored...the first teams to ever succeed (sort of) don't even get mentioned. Not counting PWT of course, as Hoenn was mentioned too. And Legends wise Kanto and Johto were ignored...except for the Celebi and Beast trio events that activated something in BW... and Mewtwo having a new move.

Maybe Johto and Kanto's legends will get more screen time to make up for their absence in B2W2 (No gen 1-2 legend was catchable in gen 5!)...

I always saw Mewtwo as not a test tube clone like in the anime, but more of a life birth clone like real life clones such as Dolly the Sheep. So it having a new forme may be what it's was originally suppose to look? But became mutated after the attempts to control it, aka they locked up part of it's powers...if so than the Mewtwo we know really isn't it's true self...
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"Mew gave birth.
We named the newborn Mewtwo."
Mew gave birth to a being that came to be twice its size? WTF?

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Old April 13th, 2013 (02:25 PM).
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Sometimes it happens in real life...also if this new forme is Mewtwo's original forme pre experiments perhaps it was smaller as a baby? It's possible.
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I am curious and like to read the theories of how Mewtwo goes into said form. I like the idea of it being the "pre experiment" but that would mean there would have to be two Mewtwos or else I'm not sure how Mewtwo would transition into that pre-experiment form. Unless they give it something that does away with all the experiments they did, which is highly unlikely. Maybe they do more experiments on Mewtwo... ?

Also, yeah, I feel like they're trying to connect with older fans in a way or fans that just like Mewtwo, but as a person that likes Mewtwo this new form... isn't really growing on me. We'll see...
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Old April 13th, 2013 (06:09 PM).
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All I can think of for Mewtwo changing into its new form it has something to do with altering it DNA (but not like Deoxys).

And how would you react to this idea I just thought of: We know that Generations IV & V game had forms exclusive to versions after the launch versions of same said Generations (Rotom, Giratina, & Shaymin in Gen IV and the Kami trio & Kyurem in Gen V). What if they did exclusive Pokémon available only in a Generation VI version after X&Y?
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Mew gave birth to a being that came to be twice its size? WTF?

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Mew gave birth to another Mew. The scientist (Fuji) took it back to its lab and performed "years of horrific gene splicing and DNA engineering experiments" (Red/Blue PokéDex). I wouldn't be surprised if it was awake the whole time, too, considering how angry it always is.
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Perhaps this new forme is a manifestation of it's psychic powers? Idk something like that.
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Mew gave birth to another Mew. The scientist (Fuji) took it back to its lab and performed "years of horrific gene splicing and DNA engineering experiments" (Red/Blue PokéDex). I wouldn't be surprised if it was awake the whole time, too, considering how angry it always is.
But doesn't that contradict Mewtwo's clone status as clones are created by test tubes rather than live birth?
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But doesn't that contradict Mewtwo's clone status as clones are created by test tubes rather than live birth?
In real life clones are born by live birth...so it's not impossible.
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But doesn't that contradict Mewtwo's clone status as clones are created by test tubes rather than live birth?
It's never stated to be a clone in-game. Only in the movie is it a clone.
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We're half a year away from the games, what else do you guys think we'll see? Do you think the region will be clouded in mystery like most things announced about X and Y?
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Speculation on X and Y: The region is shaped like a giant XY combo. Or, the roads could connect into an XY shape criss-crossing the region.

The DNA Splicers could be used on Bidoof. He could because dual-typed Normal + X with all 17 types.

Rotom will suddenly make sense.

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We're half a year away from the games, what else do you guys think we'll see? Do you think the region will be clouded in mystery like most things announced about X and Y?
I feel that we will get a picture of the region, but a decent chunk will be covered by clouds.
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Rotom will suddenly make sense.
Like.

A region image would be nice, but the reason they cloud part of it is because it's beta, and not final. I don't see why they would just intentionally cloud part of the region; after all, the minimap doesn't say anything, and they could easily paste together two shots to remove any cursor, giving away nothing but the look of the area. Granted, we could pinpoint the starting location and starting path then, they may not want that or they might just show that.

Route 3 will be part of it, I'd bet.

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I'd be satisfied just knowing the region's name at this point to be honest. Although, I'm pretty that'll come when they finally show the map. So in other words, I also can't wait for them to reveal the map. That usually brings in quite the speculation as people dissect it. Which is my personal favorite part in speculating a new generation, dissecting the map.
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Region's name would be nice or something about the Gym Leaders because that's who I'm most curious about but they won't reveal those until closer to the release. I do like when they reveal the map, it always looks so nice and all the theories that surround it make it that much more awesome.

I think my favorite part is dissecting the Gym Leaders. Dunno why, but I love it.
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Region's name would be nice or something about the Gym Leaders because that's who I'm most curious about but they won't reveal those until closer to the release. I do like when they reveal the map, it always looks so nice and all the theories that surround it make it that much more awesome.

I think my favorite part is dissecting the Gym Leaders. Dunno why, but I love it.
Ooh yeah, I'd love to see at least the designs for the gym leaders so we could speculate on the types of them or something :3
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