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Old April 15th, 2013 (10:47 AM). Edited March 8th, 2016 by gimmepie.
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The Roundtable Rules
Welcome to Pokecommunity's principle "Off-Topic" section, where you can find a plethora of discussions about all kinds of world issues - the political, the scientific, the religious, and so on and so forth. While posting in the Roundtable, please read these rules before posting.

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Global PC rules apply here including, but not limited to - all posts must adhere to the 4/25 Rule, must stay on the current topic, no double or consecutive posting is allowed, as well as no advertising of a personal or monetary nature, no pornographic or indecent imagery of any kind, under any circumstances, and no reviving threads after 30 days since the last post.

Trolling


Trolling is unacceptable on PC as a whole, and especially in The Roundtable. As the subjects broached here can be personal, deep, or sensitive, you're expected to behave.

Respecting other members


Sometimes, topics like these can get heated or passionate, and that's okay, provided that everyone's being respectful of the other members of the forum. Disrespectful behavior towards another member will not be tolerated. You are here to discuss and help others in a mature, calm, respectful, and tactful manner. Do not be purposefully hostile, offensive, passive aggressive, disrespectful, or resort to personal or ad hominem attacks when interacting with another member in this forum. Treat members with respect and decency, and they will do the same to you.

The Roundtable Vs. The Treehouse


The Roundtable is intended to house a range of topics, discussed in a certain depth, not found in other sections. While you may see similar topics here and in Treehouse, threads here are meant to be more in-depth and articulated. For example, discussions about the effects of steroids could go into more ideas like body image issues, use of other enhancing drugs, etc.). The Roundtable is meant to house discussions on news and current events, and more "academic" and socio-cultural topics. The Treehouse is meant to house a wider variety of lighter, less in-depth topics that aren't strictly about worldly topics.

Regarding Mature content


As a section that tackles topics about some more adult oriented or "PG-13" topics, The Roundtable usually stretches the boundaries of what's appropriate, content wise, on PC. Topics that could be construed as exceeding the PG-13 boundary should be brought to myself or another Higher Staff member to be OK'd before being posted. Do not post threads of an explicit, vulgar, or explicitly sexual nature, or any associated content, in the forum.

Regarding PCNation


The PCNation, the main thread of which is found here, is a long-running event in this section that simulates the running of an average-sized country's federal government. It's a bit of fun where we are currently discussing user-submitted bills (laws that have yet to be passed) and forming political parties.

There are no requirements for participating for the most part, just read up on what is currently being discussed and contribute when you feel like it. If you participate like this, you're considered an "independent" just like in a normal government. Just like in a true parliament you can also create or join a political party. Those who become part of a political party are expected to confer with each other and be active participants in the main thread. To start a political party, you need to have contributed to the PCNation as an "independent" first. You will also need to provide a name for your party and some information about your standings and policy.

Once your party has at least two members, you are allowed to post a planning thread for said party using the blue "Party" prefix. The opening post of your thread should include your party's name and information regarding your policy. The purpose of these threads are to allow parties to plan bills and political moves together.
Feel free to contact gimmepie or Nah with any questions; use the Staff Feedback Thread for any concerns or comments. Happy Posting!
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Old May 8th, 2016 (10:21 PM). Edited May 9th, 2016 by Nah.
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Below is some friendly advice from some helpful members of our community. If you have some tips of your own, PM them to gimmepie or Nah and they might appear here.

From Esper...
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Your post doesn't need to be long, but it doesn't hurt to use examples to help make it clear what you're trying to say, whether you mean to explain better when someone doesn't understand you or misunderstands you, or you're trying to convince someone of the strength of your argument.

Similarly, it doesn't hurt to ask questions about what someone's said to get more information or get clarification on the point they're trying to make. It's easy to get angry and heated when someone assumes you meant something that you didn't intend to mean.

But on that note, since discussions can get long and technical, sometimes people will come to different conclusions than you do based on the same evidence or argument or thought process. Everyone comes to these discussions from their own point of view and with their own knowledge and experience. What might seem like a natural conclusion or a simple answer to you isn't always going to be how someone else sees it. That can cause emotions to flare, but sometimes you have to agree to disagree to keep from fighting unnecessarily.

From Midnight Shadow...
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My first piece of advice when debating is leave emotion at the door. Or in other words, argue with the post, not the person behind it. There will often be times where someone says something you don't like or don't agree with, but the worst thing you can do at that point is start insulting the person based on what they said. And definitely don't take what someone said in one thread and let it cloud your judgement in another thread.

My other piece of advice is don't be a grammar/vocabulary nazi. What I mean is don't call someone out for mispelling a word or not wording a sentence correctly, especially if you are doing it just to try and prove someone wrong in an argument. That kind of behaviour is petty and doesn't belong here. If you didn't understand what someone wrote, ask them but don't just start insulting them over it.

From Harley Quinn...
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Information is nothing if not accessible. While helpful with people on par with your level of understanding, you can't expect everyone to be well versed in all academia or even care about it. Jargon is named as such for a reason. Accessibility is the cornerstone of learning and debating - how can you teach someone if they cannot connect to what you are saying? How you can interact with them? Of course, everyone should make efforts to improve themselves, certainly. But not everyone has the same experiences, opportunities, level of education and so forth. No one will give a flying psyduck if they're cut off from the point of understanding. Tailor your debate to the needs of the discussion itself, not what makes you look good.
If you can't do that, then maybe your point isn't as strong you think it is.

Another thing I was thinking about is that most good debates eventually come down to draws, or stand-offs if that's more likely. This is natural if you are not grossly more competent than those you are debating against. Particularly in here when we are mostly young, college-age students with relatively equal skills. Ivysaur is a journalist so he grinded way too hard for the boss fight, but he's an outlier. An outlier with a very high exp level. Anyway, my point is that when it comes down to a point where either side isn't making much advancement, you should start thinking about what can you say that will further the debate and open up new points of discussion, rather than explicitly fighting for what you think is right. You will only get so far if you do not look for ways to vary your debate. Find a way to move to a new battlefield instead of digging trenches. It'll make the debate more interesting for everyone involved.

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My advice: Be well prepared from time to time and keep on learning.

Practice a good reading habit! Read more materials, from news articles to books, or even materials published by a person you are not fond of (to expose yourself to different views). While not a necessity, it would be great if you can recall the materials' title for citations in the future.

Learn about the topic, learning doesn't necessarily mean cramming the information. When you are engaged in a debate, you can't just simply emphasize your own views and points; You should, at least, need to know the opposition's (basic yet detailed) ideas and points. It's kind of like lawyers' in court -- when the prosecution brings up an Article, the attorney should have a basic idea what the Article is about. Therefore, it is important to learn about the topic and to absorb knowledge.
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