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Old April 15th, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Old April 15th, 2013, 05:21 PM
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When I started learning Spanish (can understand a lot of verbal and write a bit), I would use "y" in French texts instead of "et." Luckily my French teacher was also my Spanish teacher so she just laughed (big ol' :) on my homework) lol

And I didn't find French hard at all, but a lot of people who learn it second do because of all the new verb variations and grammar stuff; unless, of course, your first language is Italian or Spanish or something. Then it's really similar and a lot easier.


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Old April 16th, 2013, 11:13 PM
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How about all of yall learn some Korean eh? It smelled really nice outside today. It's 3 in the morning so I'm probably not making any sense.

Is anyone keeping up with Idle No More? I stopped following a while back.


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Old April 16th, 2013, 11:36 PM
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A big reason that I didn't want to learn any languages similar to French was because I knew I'd get confused trying to learn multiple at the same time. I almost took Japanese in grade 11 though, since there's quite a difference between itself, English and French, but I ended up being boring and took Accounting instead.

As for the Idle No More, I remember having heard about it every once and a while some time ago, but hadn't really heard much since their meeting at parliament back in January. I haven't really been following along with the situation, but I think the lack of media coverage out here (as least from what I've seen) has kept me from hearing much.


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Old April 17th, 2013, 04:50 AM
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Old April 17th, 2013, 09:52 AM
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But but but then you could understand what people singing K-pop are saying :O

And did you guys know that Canadian teens smoke more weed than those in other developed countries?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle11221668/
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Old April 17th, 2013, 03:10 PM
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Probably. In my little Ontario town, we were #1 for drugs and teen pregnancy.

And Quebec has a legal limit of four grams before you're considered a dealer. Can't say the same about Ontario, my aunt having had her kids taken away for a spleef before.

Also, I get this nice guy at my cash once a week. He's obviously anglophone, but he tries so hard! I never say anything as to not discourage him + he's understandable, and that's all that matters at the end of the day.

But literally, when he tries to say, "Bonjour ! Puis-je avoir deux sacs s'il-te plait ?" It comes out as "Bunjyur! Pwee-jzeh avoar-reh dur sacks see teh play ?"

It sounds a bit silly, but again, not saying anything 'cause it doesn't really matter, and saying something would only hurt his feelings / discourage him... That's always unproductive.


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Old April 17th, 2013, 03:29 PM
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Why does he say s'il-te plait?
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Old April 17th, 2013, 03:33 PM
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Because it means "please"?

"Hello! Can I have two bags please?"

Since I'm younger than him, he addresses me informally.


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Old April 17th, 2013, 04:57 PM
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I've only ever heard s'il vous plait before :\

I only know like two people that smoke weed. And I'm not even sure if they do, or if they do it often.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 05:00 PM
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s'il-vous plait is formal "thank you"

s'il-te plait is informal.

Literally, it means "If it pleases you."


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Old April 17th, 2013, 11:53 PM
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And did you guys know that Canadian teens smoke more weed than those in other developed countries?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle11221668/
I can't say that it surprises me all that much, but then again, I am in BC. I won't use it myself, but at least 2 or 3 times a month I've had random people come up to me and ask if I wanted to by some weed, which I still find odd every time. My high school was pretty bad with people who smoked it, though. I can't remember if it was grade 9 or 10, but one of those years, more than 50 students (out of ~1300) were caught on school grounds with some.

As for the whole tu vs. vous thing, my French teacher in middle school made a big deal about it. We had a split class (half grade 6, half grade 7), so any time we spoke to each other during presentations, the younger students would have to ask things like Quel âge avez-vous? instead of Quel âge as-tu? or else we would lose marks. I thought it was a little silly since we were all still classmates, but it did drive home the difference between the two.


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Old April 18th, 2013, 08:12 AM
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Normally classmates wouldn't have to do it. It's appropriate at my work, though - client vs. service person. The little kids use "vous" with me, but same-age or older use "tu." I always try to use "vous," unless I get too comfortable, have had the person by my cash already or if the person is like, five.

Losing marks for that... I can understand if you weren't using "vous" for the teacher; otherwise, it really doesn't matter and it's appropriate, unless you're in front of the WHOLE class. Then you would use "vous" because you're addressing a lot of people.


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Old April 18th, 2013, 09:36 AM
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I'm not surprised, lol. People in Montreal can smoke weed in front of cops and they won't do anything about it, lol. Take my old high school for example, they had teenagers that would go out in front of the school to smoke some cigarettes or weed. You could basically get high by all the fumes that they emanated lol.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 10:30 AM
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Weed is so gross. I smell it everywhere. It smells even worse than cigarette fumes! I've had a weed activist approach me assuming that I smoked... what gave it away? :O
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Old April 18th, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Normally classmates wouldn't have to do it. It's appropriate at my work, though - client vs. service person. The little kids use "vous" with me, but same-age or older use "tu." I always try to use "vous," unless I get too comfortable, have had the person by my cash already or if the person is like, five.

Losing marks for that... I can understand if you weren't using "vous" for the teacher; otherwise, it really doesn't matter and it's appropriate, unless you're in front of the WHOLE class. Then you would use "vous" because you're addressing a lot of people.
I think it was moreso because the teacher himself knew very little French, and assumed that you had to use vous as a sign of respect even with a very trivial 1 year age gap. Even at that point I knew it seemed a little silly (considering my previous teacher told us to use tu with each other), but everyone just seemed to play along with it.


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Old April 18th, 2013, 07:24 PM
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s'il-vous plait is formal "thank you"

s'il-te plait is informal.

Literally, it means "If it pleases you."
I thought "s'il-te plait" translated as "If you please."

Anyways, yeah. Gotta do a pamphlet featuring a destination and it all has to be in French. Gosh it's hard .__.

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Old April 18th, 2013, 07:38 PM
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Good luck! I remember having to do those once upon a time, but that's a distant memory. Congrats for taking French up to Grade 12! I didn't have that much fun doing it, so I stopped in Grade 9.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 08:25 PM
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Strange that since it was just recently brought up, I heard on the news today that roughly 3/4 of BC residents support research in legalizing marijuana. It wouldn't be legal right away, but instead there would be research done on how much money could be made both through the taxation and actual growing of marijuana itself, and if it could turn the province a good profit, steps would be taken to legalize it.

Like I said, I wouldn't ever use the stuff myself, but if it could help boost the provincial economy, I say why not legalize and regulate it, since it's less harmful than either alcohol or cigarettes. If it could also cut down the number of drug related crime and arrests, that'd free up the police for more important things, too (things like marijuana DUIs would still be tracked, though).


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Old April 19th, 2013, 06:31 AM
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I thought "s'il-te plait" translated as "If you please."

Anyways, yeah. Gotta do a pamphlet featuring a destination and it all has to be in French. Gosh it's hard .__.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 08:19 AM
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I thought "s'il-te plait" translated as "If you please."

Anyways, yeah. Gotta do a pamphlet featuring a destination and it all has to be in French. Gosh it's hard .__.
More or less.

Si = If
Il = It (Because the "it" is unknown at this point, masculine form is used)
Te = You
Plait = Pleases

If it was "if you please," it would be "Si tu plais." Verb form is a big hint here that it's a reflection of "Il" - meaning "It" - and not "Tu." In fact, if it was written "S'il-te plais," it wouldn't make sense.

On a side-note, just saying "Si tu plais" doesn't make sense without a context.


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Old April 19th, 2013, 10:43 PM
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When do you use si as an intensifier? Vs. tellement or tres?
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Old April 19th, 2013, 11:06 PM
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"Si" can actually mean three things.

1. In conditional, it means "If."

When "Si" is conditional, it will always be followed by some sort of "If x, then y" statement:

Code:
"Si tu ne complètes pas tes devoirs, tu recevras une mauvaise note."
2. In response to a negative accusation, it can mean "Yes."

By using "Si" after an accusation to rebuttal, your point or sentence is "stronger" than if you use simply "Oui."

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Genevieve : "Tu n'as pas fait tes devoirs."
Etienne : "Si, je les ai faits."
3. In regards to an intensifier, it can mean "So."

Much like tellement and très. I find them to be generally interchangeable; however, in degree, I find that "tellement" is the most powerful, then "Si" followed by "Très." It doesn't really matter, though.

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"Je suis tellement heureuse !"
"Je suis si heureuse !"
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Old April 20th, 2013, 10:55 AM
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Now that we have a French club, we should probably keep the very specific French discussion (as in, stuff not really related to Canada) over there. n_n;
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Strange that since it was just recently brought up, I heard on the news today that roughly 3/4 of BC residents support research in legalizing marijuana. It wouldn't be legal right away, but instead there would be research done on how much money could be made both through the taxation and actual growing of marijuana itself, and if it could turn the province a good profit, steps would be taken to legalize it.

Like I said, I wouldn't ever use the stuff myself, but if it could help boost the provincial economy, I say why not legalize and regulate it, since it's less harmful than either alcohol or cigarettes. If it could also cut down the number of drug related crime and arrests, that'd free up the police for more important things, too (things like marijuana DUIs would still be tracked, though).
I'm on board if only for taxation reasons, but I'd kind of prefer if marijuana stays illegal. I absolutely cannot stand the smell so the less people able to or seeking to smoke it, the better, imo. :P

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I'm on board if only for taxation reasons, but I'd kind of prefer if marijuana stays illegal. I absolutely cannot stand the smell so the less people able to or seeking to smoke it, the better, imo.
I've always felt taxation and the amount of drug related arrests going down are pretty good reasons for legalization. But, I do have to agree that the smell of it is awful, and many including myself would like to stay as far away from it as possible. Unfortunately I've just got to deal with it though, since if you go anywhere near downtown you can smell it somewhere (I don't even want to imagine what it was like today being 4/20 and all). Maybe an "under the influence" law similar to that of public intoxication could be tacked on, too, so we could keep it away from public areas, but people would be free to use it within the law.

EDIT: Actually, after looking it up, Colorado's Amendmant 64 does almost exactly what I proposed, so I guess it wouldn't be unprecedented if BC were to adopt it.


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