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Old June 3rd, 2013, 08:45 AM
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Hey guys. This time, I want to ask few simple questions about evolution via trading.

Do you like this idea in every Pokemon game?

Do you guys have or had Pokemon that evolve via trading (those with held specific items too)?

If yes, what Pokemon do you use frequently? More than 1 in your team maybe?

I just wonder what Pokemon of that kind is the most common choice by PC users.

Personally I don't like that idea at all, but again having awesome Pokemon in my team just force me to do it.
On LG I had Haunter and I was building nice team for later gameplay in Emerald, so I traded him and evolved into Gengar, turned out not so bad. I like Gengar a lot, it's my favorite Ghost type.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 08:54 AM
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Gengar is one of the best ghost pokemon out.
i use him all the time. hes movepool is hipnosis, Shadow claw, Shadow ball & dream eater.
Hes more or less unstoppable. haha.

When i used to play yellow it would make me depressed that i couldnt get golem or alakazam. but now days. there old news at the back of Box 3!
haha. i think its a good part of the game. (link trade evo's)
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 08:57 AM
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Oh, I thought this was gonna be a "why do you think Pokemon evolve through trade?" thing haha. But yeah this is fine. If you, or anyone else for that matter, do want to make a thread about that, Pokemon General is where it'd go. I think that'd be an interesting topic actually.

I digress! There are some great Pokemon you can get from trade evolution, such as Slowking, Gengar, Accelgor, Alakazam, Kingdra...maan. Good stuff. I don't mind the simple trade evolutions much, like the originals from gen I (Machamp, Golem, etc) but when items got incorporated, it got a little more annoying and tedious and it makes me not wanna do it. Plus you gotta get your hands on that item, and some of them are in post-game or something annoying, and that kind of sucks if you can't wifi trade or don't have another game with that item that you can borrow.

As for Pokemon I've used that evolve through trade, I've probably used them all at some point in my Pokemon playing career haha. As far as recent playthroughs go, I just used a Steelix in White 2 and I'm using a Slowking in SoulSilver, which I just evolved last night actually. I've enjoyed all the trade evolution Pokemon I've used as far as I remember. The one I probably liked least was Golem, but I'm not generally a huge fan of Rock types anyway haha. I don't use them very often though. It depends on whether or not I want to bother with it or not. I'm more receptive to it if it's in gen IV or above, but gen III I'm a bit more hesitant because I hate having to get out the GBAs and the link cable. I really wish I could use trade evolutions in gen I and II. I don't have a cable to link my GameBoy and GBC though, so that won't happen. Maybe I'll get one in the future and I can enjoy trade evolution bbys in Crystal. <3

This post came out waaaay longer than I thought it would! Haha.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 09:15 AM
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I'm glad you have very wide opinion about that Sydian. I didn't make this thread to complain about that type of evo or questioning it, as you mentioned.

I must add that all that trouble getting Kingdra which has this magic type combination is really worth. Alakazam has very big Sp.Atk, mixed with Calm Mind makes miracles in battles too!

More opinions like that!
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 10:56 AM
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I just got back into Pokemon as some may know, so not the best person to talk to about strategy at the moment, but I plan on building a team around an Escavalier to which you must trade to obtain one. I don't like the idea of using a Scizor as it sounds abused, so will be training an Escavalier and feel players won't expect it. As well, after looking at prior Pokemon champions, one of them (possibly 2011 senior group) used an Escavalier so that's part of the inspiration.

I personally like the idea of trading to obtain evolutions and certain Pokemon, that's what Pokemon is all about.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 01:47 PM
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From a marketing standpoint, its pure genius. If you wanna complete the Pokedex and become a Pokemon Master you have to have 2 systems, 2 games to be able to evolve your Pokemon.

For the convenience of the player however, its crap. When my Pokemon fandom was at its peak around GEN 4 I was fortunate enough to have have siblings who also happened to have their own DS systems. Luckily I could trade back and forth to evolve my Pokemon. But with Gen 6 on the 3DS rolling around I won't be so lucky. My siblings have grown out of games since then and I m the only person I know with a 3DS. So Ill either have to get some online friends or use backend means.
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From a marketing standpoint, its pure genius. If you wanna complete the Pokedex and become a Pokemon Master you have to have 2 systems, 2 games to be able to evolve your Pokemon.
And if you can't have that, you're forced to go into the outside world and make friends.
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I didn't really mind because i always had friends with games so it wasn't a hassle. It was a pretty good way to make money for them too. So many people would have doubled the amount of games they bought just to complete the 'dex.
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Trading and playing with friends has been a pretty central point of the Pokemon franchise since the first games were released, and yes, I'm supportive of it! :D Having many Pokemon evolve into awesome evolutions upon trading just sweetens the deal and promotes social bonds between players. I haven't used any trade evolved Pokemon recently, mostly because I'm not able to play Pokemon properly at the moment :'( But back in the day I had capability to trade in 3rd and 4th gens. I like most trade Pokemon, and would make a point to collect them all, for playing with or at least the Pokedex.

Oh yeah, and haven't Gamefreak in newer games made it possible to finish the Pokemon by sight alone, meaning trading and trade specific Pokemon aren't as important?
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Hey guys. This time, I want to ask few simple questions about evolution via trading.

Do you like this idea in every Pokemon game?

Do you guys have or had Pokemon that evolve via trading (those with held specific items too)?

If yes, what Pokemon do you use frequently? More than 1 in your team maybe?

I just wonder what Pokemon of that kind is the most common choice by PC users.

Personally I don't like that idea at all, but again having awesome Pokemon in my team just force me to do it.
On LG I had Haunter and I was building nice team for later gameplay in Emerald, so I traded him and evolved into Gengar, turned out not so bad. I like Gengar a lot, it's my favorite Ghost type.
1. No, I hate it. It requires you to put your trust into someone that you MAY or may NOT know. I once tried to trade-evolve my shiny Machoke to my friend who I knew for 2 years, and he stole it from me. We don't talk anymore.

2. I used to. Now I rely on evolutions that don't require anything but held items or stones.

3. Poliwrath.


In X and Y, nintendo needs to completely remove the trade evolution system, or at least swap it out with something far more trustworthy. No, I'm not talking about the GTS, because that's just full of dumb hacked pokemon, stupid nicknames, and level 100s.
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Old June 5th, 2013, 03:45 PM
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I hate it!!!! Nothing makes me more mad then when I find out a pokemon can only be evolved by trading!! What is the point of it? It and the Unova Pokemon designs are the two dumbest things that nintendo has ever done!
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Old June 5th, 2013, 04:42 PM
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While I believe that GameFreak put in trade evolutions to promote the trade function of both games, it's downright frustrating for some people who don't have anyone else to trade with.
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Old June 6th, 2013, 12:20 PM
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I completely understand the reasoning behind why they included trade-only evolutions in the first place, because it either A) promoted interacting with others to complete the game (whether that be friends, siblings, etc.), or B) require you to buy both versions in order to complete your Pokedex.

So with that being said, I've both loved and hated the idea of this. The reason that I hated it was I never managed to find anyone with a trade cable or get one myself until a lot of people I knew had stopped playing, and when I finally did have someone to trade with, he had the same versions that I did (Gold and FireRed). Now that we've got features like the GTS and Wi-Fi trading, though, it makes completing your Pokedex that much easier, plus it allows you to talk to new people along the way, that you may have never interacted with otherwise.

As for the Pokemon that I've used that evolve via trade, Steelix, Gengar, Alakazam and Scizor have all been main members of my teams at one point or another. Outside of Gengar, though, I haven't really used any of them all that much, although I would like to try my hand at using Slowking in the near future.
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Yeah, it's a nice feature and it makes sense. But at the same time its really annoying - I couldn't do trade evolutions at all until Diamond came out (thanks to GTS), and then it involved giving away my own pokémon until my DSLite went kinda iffy and I bought a DSi.

I don't tend to use the pokémon that evolve via evolution much, if I do it's Rhyperior etc, all the new ones. Gengar etc. I don't really use because I get picky about only using Gen III in Emerald, Gen IV in DP, Gen II in HeartGold etc.
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Old June 6th, 2013, 01:42 PM
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Mmm, I don't really like it myself. Thankfully, I don't like most traded Pokemon (only a few exceptions), but there's nothing really stopping me. It really upset me when I was little though, because I had both games and not a cable xD
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Old June 6th, 2013, 01:43 PM
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Mmm, I don't really like it myself. Thankfully, I don't like most traded Pokemon (only a few exceptions), but there's nothing really stopping me. It really upset me when I was little though, because I had both games and not a cable xD
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It has been largely annoying in Gen IV since my connection wasn't allowed to be used on those games without the security being changed, so this has prevented me from being able to trade to evolve online at various times. Even now I have a Machoke on my HG/SS that I can't evolve without it. But I suppose that's less to do with trading and more to do with the backwards tech of the DS, so yeah.

I approved of the concept before that because I could trade with friends in the neighbourhood fairly easily to do it, but unfortunately they have either stopped playing or decided to play on counterfeit versions of Gen IV games. I never liked having to trade them with items though, it was enough of an annoyance before items were introduced.

Overall, I guess if we'd never seen trading as an evolution problem I wouldn't have even though of it as a possibility. It was probably good for encouraging trading in R/B/Y and therefore promoting them games by encouraging friends to play, but since then it has been a largely unnecessary idea and it would be nice if they introduced alternate ways to evolve the pokemon that currently evolve via this method.
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Do you like this idea in every Pokemon game?
It can be a pain in the butt to do if you don't have Wi-Fi or another DS, but if you have either or both it's useful.

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I have and there are too many species I've done this too. My most frequent however are Golem, Machamp and Gengar as they were my first. However, I've done it with Steelix, Scizor and the most recent; Conkledor, Gigalith, Escavalier and Accelgor.

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Golem more than anyone else. I used him for post-game stuff in SoulSilver before trading him to Black and then later, Black 2. He was pushing level 80 by the time I transferred him.
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I don't mind the idea of Pokemon evolving via trade nowadays, although before DS wireless connections it was more of a hassle than it was worth especially if you had no irl friends with a Pokemon game.

The only Pokemon I've used in a playthrough that required trading to evolve were Conkeldurr and Gigalith.
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As it has been said plenty of times before, It was a marketing gimmick, but nowadays, it's just a pure annoyance, especially from a competitive battling point of view, it just slows things down. I think it's about time Nintendo removed trade evolution for good, It has just become too much of a hassle.
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Trade evolutions are basically a gimmick to get more people to interact with each other and complete the Pokedex, which is the main reason that encourages trading to start with. I did manage to do a few trade evolutions but it's hard for me since my brother never lets me hoard his DS.

Some of the trade evolutions are really complex, like the ones that need a held item or even worse, trading Karrablast and Shelmet with each other. It took me ages to evolve them and then get both of them on my game as well. They're okay, but the Karrablast/Shelmet trade is one of the most weird evolution methods ever.
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This was like the basis of Pokemon!
They wanted to make a game where multiplayer was encouraged, battles and getting rewarded for trading (evolving.) I have no problem with it. If they'd introduced it later, I might. An alternate way of evolving said Pokemon would be cool though, for people with no wifi/friends.
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I love it but I hardly ever got to evolve mine via trade because I had no one to trade with that had a cable link. Good old times with the cable links.
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Well, trade evolutions offer a bunch of things. You get to fill another spot in the Pokedex, and you get a more stronger Pokemon. A good example of this is Gengar. Haunter is rather weak compared to Gengar. But, as with many positives, there are negatives to balance it out.

Trades can be tedious if you don't have anyone to trade with. You could be spending days looking for someone to trade with, whether it be at home or on the internet...and usually, people on the net would want something in return. Also, some trades could require the use of items, such as the Reaper Cloth for Dusclops to evolve into Dusknoir, or the Metal Coat for Steelix and Scizor. It could take a bit of time to find those items if you don't exactly know where to get them.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 04:54 AM
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I dislike the idea of trading to evolve itself, none of my friends play Pokemon, because them retards think it's a kids' game but anyway trading with strangers could be useful, except that I don't fully trust anyone, also it may get a bit difficult to find a trader who's active in my timezone AND has a good wi-fi connection...

I like Gengar, Alkazam, Golem, Porygon2 & Politoed just to name a few, I only had them when I traded with myself by making a copy of my ROM & using it in Gold, it was quite the headache finding the appropriate program too :/

Getting the hold-while-trading items can be a pain sometimes & it will become even more painful as more games are released, some of them are to be received so late in the game or post-E4 which is kinda stupid imo.
A better alternative would be evolving while holding items instead of trading while holding them, but without the night-time/day-time clause, & ofc make the items cheap & easily obtainable.

Another thing that would be useful is NPC trades, why trade a Ralts for a Seedot when you can trade a Graveler for a Haunter? Trading NPCs should exist more & in the same time have better offers.

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Also I can't help but to mention how ridiculous eeveelutions are becoming; firstly Espeon & Umbreon who need "Happiness", which means wasting money on haircuts & lemonades, or wasting time by walking endlessly, or wasting good moves by leveling up since it increases happiness but in the same time makes you miss learning certain moves if you reach their appropriate level & not evolve, kind of a nightmare.
Secondly Leafeon & Glaceon who need to evolve near places, easier than happiness tbh but still bad because you never know when exactly you're going to reach these places.
Thirdly Ninfia who will -probably- need to be traded while holding something then evolved near some place holding something else in day-time just my prediction seeing the trend of getting eeveelutions.

It would be perfect if we can get evos by using Stones or evolving while holding items & get pre-evos by simple breeding, simple trades aren't bad either.
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