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Quote originally posted by pedrito3_poke:
You are missing the point of rumours. Rumours are supposed to be nothing but speculations about stuff that could be in the game. And people don't argue about a rumours veracity, they argue about its plausibility, because, from the moment it is proven to be true/false, it stops being a rumour.

Still, Haza is completely right. We can see some people posting here completely random rumours, which are a bit pointless to argue about. If the rumours come from an alleged leaker (even though 99% aren't just people messing around) and seem to be legit at a first analisys, it's more interesting to discuss about them, simply because there is that 1% chance that it is an actual leaker and everything he says is true.

So, guys, if you want to post rumours here, at least try to make them look legit.
I feel you're kind of contradicting yourself in your post, if I'm interpreting this correctly.

You say that people do't argue about a rumors veracity, but at the same time you wish for "legit"-looking rumours to be posted in this thread? I'd argue that just about each and every single rumor that has been posted thus far could hold some amount of water to it, but yet at the same time, it could sound completely ridiculous. For example, I could start a rumor saying that there would be new mechanics concerning the HM Fly, and everyone would be scrambling to debate 1) whether it's true (because it happens) and 2) whether it could be true. In a sense however, I feel you are misinterpreting my post. I've seen time and time again that people believe anonymous posters simply because they're right on one or two occasions and have made a few lucky guesses and all of a sudden they're treated like all-knowing Pokemon gods or something, which I must say, is quite a bit disconcerting.

Each and every single rumor, no matter who or where it's from, is interesting to discuss because of it's plausibility, but it's becoming more and more apparent in this thread (from how I see it) that the veracity is taken into account as well. This is how seriously people take rumors nowadays, and the point in which I was trying to make in the first place. If one person makes some "realistic sounding" rumor and spread it around, everyone is bound to go for the bait and go ravenous about it for a good few weeks before there's nothing to really talk about anymore.

That's just my perspective on things, anyway. n_n! You can disagree if you wish. I just don't want there to be any miscommunications of some sort!
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Old June 8th, 2013 (09:18 AM). Edited June 8th, 2013 by CmdrEggnog.
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If they name the new type "Fairy-type", I will convince myself that I am too old to be playing this game, haha! Not knocking other people, but I personally hate that cutesy stuff, and having a Fairy type would give Gamefreak yet another reason to oversaturate the Pokeverse with Pokemon like that. But I really like playing......gaaaaaaah, what's a guy to do. I love change, but dang, that's just terrifying me.

ANYWAY, what makes people think that there are two new types being introduced, other than the Gen 2 comparisons?

Originally, fairies are not cute. They range in looks and the most common non-disnified fairy story is about creatures that steal misbehaving children to eat. There is more to Fairy than Tinkerbell.

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I heard one of the leakers said that Xerneas would be a Fairy type.....in that case I think Fairy type would be moreso a "magic" or "mystic" type and not strictly pink cutesy creatures.

That leaker (there was more than one if memory serves) admitted to making the info up on 4chan. The one posted in the first page is the only rumor still around that hasn't been debunked or its creator admitting it was fake.
Concerning how there is more to fairies than Tinkerbell or other pink cutesy creatures- do people aged six to twelve know that? That's around where GameFreak's target audience is. They don't necessarily make these games for those who have been around since Gen I. If they called the new alleged new type Fairy then that would make those people think of Tink or cutesy things, so Mystic would probably suit the type more.




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If they name the new type "Fairy-type", I will convince myself that I am too old to be playing this game, haha! Not knocking other people, but I personally hate that cutesy stuff, and having a Fairy type would give Gamefreak yet another reason to oversaturate the Pokeverse with Pokemon like that. But I really like playing......gaaaaaaah, what's a guy to do. I love change, but dang, that's just terrifying me.

ANYWAY, what makes people think that there are two new types being introduced, other than the Gen 2 comparisons?

Originally, fairies are not cute. They range in looks and the most common non-disnified fairy story is about creatures that steal misbehaving children to eat. There is more to Fairy than Tinkerbell.

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I heard one of the leakers said that Xerneas would be a Fairy type.....in that case I think Fairy type would be moreso a "magic" or "mystic" type and not strictly pink cutesy creatures.

That leaker (there was more than one if memory serves) admitted to making the info up on 4chan. The one posted in the first page is the only rumor still around that hasn't been debunked or its creator admitting it was fake.
Concerning how there is more to fairies than Tinkerbell or other pink cutesy creatures- do people aged six to twelve know that? That's around where GameFreak's target audience is. They don't necessarily make these games for those who have been around since Gen I. If they called the new alleged new type Fairy then that would make those people think of Tink or cutesy things, so Mystic would probably suit the type more.




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Is the rumors about the x and y legendaries having 3 different types like yveltal being dark/fire/flying true?
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At this point, it cannot be confirmed nor denied, but I seriously doubt that will happen. Having three types will make battle much more complicated, perhaps even too complicated. I dunno though, I'm not really a battler.
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If that rumor is true (which is unlikely) then I see Kyurem's forms becoming Ice/Fire/Dragon, and Ice/Electric/Dragon.
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There's only a certain few that I can think of to gain a third type which is why it wouldn't really be necessary. It would only be worth adding if there were a handful of Pokemon that were viable to gain an extra typing.
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Way too complicated. But it would definitely change the battling mechanic, which is what they are talking about lately.

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This bonding system could be what they're talking about? I doubt they would introduce Quadruple battles, especially after just introducing Triple and Rotational battles.
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I posted this on the general chat and speculation, then i saw i should post it here so here it is again.

I saw this article on pokebeach today, it is supposed to be the last information from that "insider" guy. it mentioned the following rumors.


*Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/dark

*A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic.

*A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick's name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.)

*Like in B/W you have two rivals - one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game.

*Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle.

*Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can't ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat.

*HMs still exist but there's a lot less of them.

*Players will be able to see their Pokemon's EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post).

*A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it.

*Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60.

*If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo's original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew's design.

*In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters' final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.



I personally think the evolution methods are pretty stupid. Holding a DS upside down, so you can evolve it at whatever level you want as long as you hold your DS upside down?
The poison attack seems cool though.
The rival giving you his starter seams obsolete because of the GTS. The second one seams weird. What would trigger it after you flip your 3DS.
The level up with a dark type in your party seams off. I thought that only Mantyke would evolve with a certain Pokemon in your party.
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I thought that only Mantyke would evolve with a certain Pokemon in your party.
There's no reason to think Mantyke will always be the only pokemon who evolves in that way.
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Welp, since the Fairy type rumor is now truth, that opens up the gate for many other rumors posted in here...
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I now have to live with the Fairy Type forever. The rest of the news is OK. This also means that the guy who 'leaked' the Fairy Type is correct about the other rumours, including Patrice, dual typed moves and the starters final types.
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He surely only guessed Fairy.
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I now have to live with the Fairy Type forever. The rest of the news is OK. This also means that the guy who 'leaked' the Fairy Type is correct about the other rumours, including Patrice, dual typed moves and the starters final types.
My thoughts exactly, he got the Fairy Type and the advantage to Dragon correct so it's possible.
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@Legend - I don't know about that that, there was a lot of evidence towards the fairy-type anyway.
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He isn't the same guy who mentioned double type moves is he? Because if so then the game is about to be radically changed this generation, for good or bad.
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Someone should check mark all the rumors on that list as they come true as we go. Double type moves...
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I want no Patrice professor from the rumor.
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I highly doubt, at this point, that dual-type moves would even be a reality. Then again, people doubted Fairy-type's very existence, and that came to fruition, so who knows?

I still hope it doesn't happen, though. >.>
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Quote originally posted by legendhunter14:
I now have to live with the Fairy Type forever. The rest of the news is OK. This also means that the guy who 'leaked' the Fairy Type is correct about the other rumours, including Patrice, dual typed moves and the starters final types.
Oh gosh, I really hope not everything that guy said was true. Especially about the dual-type moves. Please no.
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Also, in regards to the starters final types, I just really hope that Chespin ends up being Grass/Rock or Grass/Ground. It's really one of the two, and I can't really see it being anything else. u_u Thought I'd put that out there.
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Also, in regards to the starters final types, I just really hope that Chespin ends up being Grass/Rock or Grass/Ground. It's really one of the two, and I can't really see it being anything else. u_u Thought I'd put that out there.
Grass/Dark or Grass/Fighting... I want another Sceptile that has more than one type...
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Fairy type is one thing but I doubt dual-type moves will be introduced, it would just make battling much more complicated...
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His rumours are posted on Pokebeach I see they're posted at the top of the page as well. I neither hope that his rumors become reality. Especially the other Mewtwo Forme.
There are rumors of the new Pokemon Noivern (is that its name?) is the evolution of Swoobat. To me, it seems unlikely. This is another troll like Alomomola and Shellos.
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Noivern doesn't look anything like Swoobat aside from being bat-like. It doesn't even look like it could be a branching evolution of Woobat. Well, maybe it could be that, but I don't personally see it.
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