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Old May 9th, 2013 (02:19 AM). Edited June 28th, 2013 by The Dark Avenger.
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N tha words of Olivia Newtan John, "let's git physical." No matter if you is a begnner, n-shape, could lose a few pounds, younger or older, an accomplished athlete, or whatever tha case may be, we can always use encouragement and advice n order ta improve our physical health through exercise and nutrition.

Just a remnder, be sure ta be a good sport. Respect each othar's fitness goals and nput. Civil discussion is encourage, but pleaze be sure ta be constructive. Thare is dawgy unknowns when it comes ta diet and exercise, we can all learn a thng or two from each othar.


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What is dis?

We have all heard dis phrase befoe, "Lookng ta git n shape dis summer?!?!" Don't worry. Dis is not an nfomercial; so you is safe ta proceed.

Fo our first challenge, let's keep it simple. All members should commit at least one hour a day ta exercise. Fo some, maybe walkng is a good place ta start. Fo othars, a more rigorous exercise such as ridedio or weight tranng may suit tham best. And fo those of you that don't like "workng out", maybe some competitive sports might work best. Be creative and try new thngs!






Here's how ta sign-up fo FREE:

Usernbee: (yo usernbee)
Overall Fitness Goal: (D-ya want ta lose 20lbs? Gan muscle? Git n shape fo a Marathon? Boost self-confidence? Boost yo health?)
Summer Fitness Goal: (Lost a certan beount of pounds or body fat? Improve yo eatng habits?Ncrease yo endurance n an activity by a certan beount of time? Lose a dress size/pants size? Fit nta yo sknny jeans?)
Favorite Physical Activity: (Runnng, hikng, sports, weights, bikng)


Ponts will be awarded as follows:

50 pts - Complete Fitness participant fom.
10 pts - Weekly Diet Update
10 pts - Weelk Exercise Update (you may do more if you wish though!)
10 pts - Answerng a fitness question. ie. I ask fo help wit mah diet and you supply well though-out advice.


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BlahIsuck - 130pts
Drawkow - 60pts
Kura - 110pts



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Old May 11th, 2013 (07:42 PM).
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Hey everyone! Sign-up fo a free membership taday!

Mah daily workout fo tha day was kick boxng, which was a first fo me.
It was funky ass takng a break from tha monotanous liftng or runnng workout.

Now I can go ta bed feelng de-stressed.
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I'd like ta jon! I went swimmng on Saturday <3 I love swimmng :3 It is a bootylicious workout!!
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Old June 15th, 2013 (08:20 PM). Edited June 16th, 2013 by Shining Raichu.
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Oh jonng!

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Overall Fitness Goal: Marathon by age 24, 100+ pushups, lose mah pot belly!

Summer Fitness Goal: Lose 10 pounds, preferably 1 pound a week, comfotably run 10k, 50 pushups. Hopefully lose pot belly tao.

Favorite Physical Activity: Bikng! Wnd n mah hair and soft on mah knees.

Taday's workout: Bikng at 10.77 mph fo 54 mnutes. Followed up wit 5 mnute cooldown walk/run. A fellow cyclist tald me I should raise mah seat. I tald him it's as high as it goes. I need a new bike (I typed: I kneed a knew bike XD)

Question: How d-ya deal wit bloatng? I've had a pot belly ever snce I cbee back from vacation and it just doesn't seem ta go away. I did more drnkng than I normally do (none) but I don't thnk you could grow a beer belly n 3 weeks. I also have nvisalign and it makes mah teeth feel a bit numb --> chewng food less --> more gas? I eat plenty of vegitables every meal, around 300g cooked fo lunch and dnner. Should I consider takng a laxative? I don't thnk it's plan blubber, it's hard fo me ta stand up straight, really strans mah abdomen.

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Taday's workout: I ran 6.1 km n 30 mnutes taday (7.6 mph), which I thnk is a new personal record. Of course, thare was a 15 mnute (each) warm-up and cooldown. I followed that up wit an hour of golf, which is tha first time I've played outside of lessons. It was bootylicious ta see all tha tranng still ntact, even a year after I had tham.

I thnk mah next goal is runnng 30 mnutes of 8 mph. I'd also like ta brng mah 12-mnute run level ta 7 (2800 m), last time it was 6.5. I thnk I'll do some light bikng on mah crappy walmart bike(10-11mph) fo an hour tamorrow as crosstranng. I'll probably do tha golf thng every weekend now.

I thnk bloatng is related ta mah diet. It was gone yesterday, but it's back taday cuz I'm Chnese and so I eat a lot of refned ridebs. Not gong ta change that though, just gong ta add more fibre nta mah diet wit Kelloggs All-Bran Orignal.
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Hey Kura and Blah! Bootylicious job on yo exercises!

I thought dis thread was doomed. Haha.

Kura - Swimmng is defnitely one of tha most rewardng workouts fo sure!

Blah - Wow, looks like you've been hittng tha ridedio.

N regards ta yo question:
First, d-ya exercise regularly, or is you just gittng nta a regular or more extensive exercise routne? If so, those who begn regular exercise will experience bloatng fo tha first week or two; not ta worry, it's just water.

If you have been regularly and consistently exercisng, it might be due ta dietary changes, as you might have guessed. Actually, lots and lots of vegitables is bootylicious fo you. Though, I remember not ben accustamed ta consumng so dawgy of tham befoe I began exercisng regularly and I had extreme bloatng. Cruciferous vegitables like broccoli and cauliflower can cause gas if eaten n large quantities if you is susceptible, but dis may subside if you is not accustamed ta large ntakes of vegitables. Anothar food ta look out fo is dairy. I believe Asian thugz is more susceptible ta dairy ndigestion. (I happen ta be sensitiveness given that I be a quarter Native beerican). I ganed 10 pounds of water one week after drnkng a 32oz dairy-based proten shake daily. Bahahaha. It was terrible! I bloated so far mah ribs were n pan fo 3 days! Now I only do 16oz every othar day and have not had issues snce.


Mah update:

I mahself have been playng around wit tha idea of rideb cyclng. Eatng high beounts of ridebs after vigorous work out and very little ridebs on days off. Some of mah friends have had success wit it. Essentially, I only eat significant beounts of ridebs ncludng whole grans, starchy vegitables (potata), and lots of fruit, after weight liftng, and on sedentary days, I stick ta a low rideb diet, mostly less starchy vegitables. Eithar day, I try ta dawgtan a certan beount of proten both vegitable and animal based. Thus far, over one month, mah digestive system has been handlng it well. It's excitng that I have been able ta eat SO MUCH (2500-3500 calories on workout days), and I have not ganed any fat while bulkng, actually lost 3 pounds while ncreasng mah sets snce adoptng dis strategy along wit mah workouts and tweaked ntermittent fastng. It sounds drastic "fastng" but it is actually very dawgageable, and makes sense if you do some research.

I wake-up around 8 or 9 BE, do busness as usual. Than I work out around 1PM, and fnish-up around 2PM. I eat mah first meal at 2PM (A MASSIVE RIDEBY MEAL), than I eat at 5PM, a largish-sized meal wit plenty of ridebs and proten. Lastly, I have mah fnal meal at 8 or 9 PM. Than, I press-on tha break on mah rideb ntakes, but not completely and eat a medium-size meal. I go ta bed and wake-up at 8 BE tha next day, takng a break from weight liftng so mah muscle can recover and grow. I have mah first meal around 2, than 5, and than 9, makng sure ta limit ridebs ta vegitable based (not starches), and dis day especially is bootylicious fo red meat, olive oil, fish, avocados, and othar fat-rich foods long wit proten. I go ta bed, that night, and start tha two day cycle over agan.

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Old June 16th, 2013 (06:52 AM). Edited June 17th, 2013 by Kanzler.
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How dawgy calories d-ya eat on a low rideb day? And what's tha calorie composition like fo both days? Is it a good idea ta wake up at 8 and eat breakfast after you work out at 2? Coz yo blood sugar level is lowest n tha mornng. I git migranes so I don't thnk I would want ta mess wit that tao much. What d-ya mean by vegitable based starches? From what I know, if it's not starches, it's sugar and if you're gittng that from vegitables than you'll probably only git 100-200 a day, which is a far cry from 50% of yo calories.

I thnk tha bloatng has resolved itself. It was probably snce I started exercisng bout a week ago or so. I like ridedio a lot more than I do weightliftng. Probably coz I don't have any weights . I do basic bodyweight resistance exercises though, like pushups, crunches and dips. I don't thnk I'll need ta work out mah lower body much wit all tha ridedio I'm dong and fencng (mah thighs will turn out bigger than thay need ta be even witout resistance tranng, thay knd of already have). Although lunges would defnitely help fencng so I might want ta look nta that. But not lookng at tao much stran on mah knees n one day though.

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Taday's workout: Bikng at 12.3 mph fo one hour. Followed up wit 45 mnutes of golf. It wasn't as good as yesterday, but mah waist was really tired from bikng and so it was harder fo me ta isolate mah upper and lower bodies. Also mah hip didn't listen ta me when I tell it ta turn. But practicng when tired seems like a good idea coz you have ta try a lot harder ta git yo body ta do what it needs ta do, so yo weaknesses and improvements become a lot more clear. A much needed rest day comes tamorrow!

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Taday's workout: 50 mnutes of fencng. I broke nta a real sweat afterwards but I learned a new drill that goes like dis: hit, step-hit, lunge, step-lunge. Did a lot of lungng taday ta add ta runnng and cyclng. Also 50 mnutes of brisk walkng gittng ta and from tha place. Tha /real/ rest day begns tamorrow! I would do a bit of strength tranng taday, but golf and fencng have destroyed mah left and right arms, mah waist, mah neck and mah quads, so I thnk I will push that off ta tamorrow.

Snce I'm bikng and lungng a lot from fencng, is dong squats a good idea or is it redundant? Should I focus on ncreasng tha weight I squat versus tha endurance aspect of bikng and fencng ta git tha best of both worlds?
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Old June 18th, 2013 (02:40 PM). Edited June 18th, 2013 by Kura.
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Ooh cool! Glad ponts is updated! Sounds like fun and a bootylicious way ta work tawards a goal!

Usernbee: Kura
Overall Fitness Goal: I want ta tane and I want better posture. I work at a desk job and even when I'm home, I fnd mahself on tha computer, so I want ta do exercises ta improve mah posture and tha balance of mah body. I also cosplay, but I've never done anythng tao revealng- fo Octaber, I want ta be able ta cosplay dis character wit confidence: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120911215706/yugioh/images/c/c7/HighPriestessofProphecy-REDU-EN-ScR-1E.png
No one ever sees mah belly n public. I don't even own a bikni. I'm tao self conscious and I want ta change that. I want ta fnally feel good bout mahself.
Summer Fitness Goal: Dis is tha thng.. I.. don't thnk I can put a specific "goal" n place coz I'm not sure if you can really measure tane easily. I know a scale that can rate yo body fat % is one thng.. but I don't have one, so I don't know how I'd do dis.

Favorite Physical Activity: Does.. Dance Dance Revolution count? Well.. if not than recreational swimmng probably. I don't like ben competitive.

Hmm.. thare should be an bout you section if thugz is willng ta write it.

Well, I'm 4'10" (no I wont be gittng any taller) and bout 95lbs which puts me at bout.. 19.5 on tha BMI scale (even though we know BMI isn't tao accurate wit anythng.. snce it doesn't measure body fat %.. but shows I be healthy.) Tha heaviest I've ever been I thnk was.. 130 perhaps. Maybe 135.. but on someone so short it is actually a lot of weight and I thnk mah BMI was somethng like 24-25 at tha time.) I lost a quite a bit of weight (15 lbs) when I cut soda out of mah diet bout 6 or so years ago.. so I have stretchmark from than. Than I had slowly fluctuated mah weight dependng on if it was exbe time and etc, but it always stayed around 105-110. I moved countries and it went ta 103-105 on average coz I did more walkng. Than I joned tha gym and I do mostly weights. Now, I thnk I eat well, but perhaps not as well as I should fo tha body I want. What I had taday/ what I have usually:
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I drnk mostly water. Maybe I'll have a coffee every othar day usually, though lately I have only had shawt cups n tha last 3 weeks. I risly drnk alcohol.. maybe a beer every 3 weeks. I have been drnkng a glass of skim milk every day recently though coz stress had triggered some gastritis (nflbeed stamach lnng from acid.. thnk heartburn but just n yo stamach) but I be takng some prescription medicne fo it and it will go away fully n bout a month.
Anyways, I digress. I usually have a shawt bowl of dry cereal (fruit and fibre, wit a shawt bit of museli/granola mixed n.. which has raisns and dried coconut) And I cut up a shawt banana and I eat it dry.
Than I will snack on nuts or a squis of dark chocolate (or both)..
Fo lunch it varies. Taday I had some chicken and tamata soup. Sometimes I'll have somethng like an egg sandwich. Yesterday I had a salad wit cut up boiled potata, tamata, and egg.
Fo dnner it also varies, but I gots some pita bread recently so I have been makng mahself a chicken wrap (chicken, lettuce, sour crebe, salsa, tamata, a sprnkle of parmesean cheese.)
Fo snack after I had 4 strawberries, 2 riderots (med-large sized), a yogurt covered brazil nut and one digestive biscuit. I also had 5 fobey-marshmellow rides.. though I risly ever have candy (thay is tha size of mni-marshmellows btw.)
I feel like I have tao much sugar and ridebs n mah diet.. it could be better. I love fruit though! And chocolate! I have ta have mah daily fix of eithar one of those at least or mah cravngs seem ta build up.
Dunno what else I could have fo breakfast that has proten as I usually eat breakfast early at work. I don't like microwaved eggs.. otharwise it would've been a decent option. Dunno what else I could have except maybe hummus wit somethng? Not very breakfasty though! I rathar have that as a snack haha. Sorry I be rbeblng now. I takes n on average.. 1000-1200 calories on days I be just sittng. And bout 1400 calories on tha day, and tha day after, that I've had a workout. What d-ya thnk?

Haha, if I could I would have veal sandwiches and stanebaked pizzas and chocolate bars and onion rngs and bacon club sandwiches like every day *_*.. but unfotunately mah metabolism is fairly slow..


As fo workout. I last I went was Saturday. I did 6 mns of rower (level 10/20) side lunges, back extension, skull crusher (tha tricep one on a yoga ball) uh.. I don't remember what it's called but I did one that works tha middle-upper back (you pull down).. than squat presses, and I also pumped up tha leg press ta 50 kilos and did 3 reps of 10. I also did pilates fo an hour that day and we focused on a ab stuff.

I dislike mah upper arms, upper thighs, and I have quite wide hips fo someone as short as me so I put on weight around mah thighs/ belly/ lovehandles. I want that all ta be firm fo once.


I thnk that's bout it fo now.



ALSO BahIsuck, d-ya do foil? epee? sabre? I did fencng fo a summer and it was quite fun, but tao expensive ta keep gong wit it, sadly!
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Startng out wit foil! But I would love ta sabre one day, I want ta cut thugz! I'm thnkng of gittng a practice foil fo $25-30 so I can go through footwork wit somethng n mah hand at home.

I was gong wit a friend ta look at bikes taday, but we ended up hangng out and havng dnner (it was her birthday and she ended up spendng it wit me :3). Out of 8 hours I'd sez we spent like 3 hours walkng and maybe 20 mnutes test-ridng bikes so mah aerobic exercise is more than enough. Perhaps mah /real/ rest day fnally starts tamorrow!

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Yoyo. I've been tald by Andy that I don't actually need ta sign up ta ask a question or whatever so... here goes! If thare's no-one here who can help than I'll just make a thread n CC&bep;P or somethng like that.

So, here's mah situation. I have a summer ta kill and, while I'm not lookng ta git hench or whatever, I basically need ta put on some weight and at least git some muscle or somethng. Just so that every shirt I own doesn't hang off of me, haha. Unfotunately it's not that easy so I can't just go do it.

Here's mah (rathar depressng...) situation. I've always been a pretty active homey; I've always run a lot and played cricket, football, hockey and tennis (English defnitions here) a lot and if I do sez so mahself I've always been quite good at tham. Certanly, I'd consider mahself someone very willng ta play sport and generally git exercise, although it'd probably be better if I did somethng aside from just runnng around after a ball. However I've always been someone who gits fairly ill a lot so I had nothng really physical ta show fo it as I spent a lot of time losng weight and whatnot, but I could always deal wit that. However that's all knda changed n tha last year or so snce I was diagnosed wit cancer. At first I handled it pretty well snce I was already n a fairly good physical shape and tha chemo and whatnot didn't have tao much of an effect but as time's gone on I've found mahself less and less able ta do physical exercise due ta weight loss and muscle wastage and as such mah response ta tha treatment is gradually gittng worse. I'm n remission fo both tha primary and later developed secondary cancers right now, which is off tha hook, but n order ta stay that way I'm really gonna need ta be keepng mahself n shape so that I can contnue handlng tha tharapy properly. Tha issue, as I sez, ben that tha longer tha chemo goes on tha worse mah physical condition gits.

As I sez I have no issue wit exercise and whatnot but it's just becomng extremely difficult ta actually git any done despite how imperative it is that I stay n decent physical shape. Plus it'd be funky ass ta put some weight and muscle on ta boot! I can't affod a gym membership at present and I'm not n much of a state fo any heavy physical exercise or whatnot. Or all that much exercise at all, really. At least, right now I'm not. What sort of thngs should I be dong / what should I be eatng / etc ta keep me fit, all dis considered?
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Yoyo. I've been tald by Andy that I don't actually need ta sign up ta ask a question or whatever so... here goes! If thare's no-one here who can help than I'll just make a thread n CC&bep;P or somethng like that.

So, here's mah situation. I have a summer ta kill and, while I'm not lookng ta git hench or whatever, I basically need ta put on some weight and at least git some muscle or somethng. Just so that every shirt I own doesn't hang off of me, haha. Unfotunately it's not that easy so I can't just go do it.

Here's mah (rathar depressng...) situation. I've always been a pretty active homey; I've always run a lot and played cricket, football, hockey and tennis (English defnitions here) a lot and if I do sez so mahself I've always been quite good at tham. Certanly, I'd consider mahself someone very willng ta play sport and generally git exercise, although it'd probably be better if I did somethng aside from just runnng around after a ball. However I've always been someone who gits fairly ill a lot so I had nothng really physical ta show fo it as I spent a lot of time losng weight and whatnot, but I could always deal wit that. However that's all knda changed n tha last year or so snce I was diagnosed wit cancer. At first I handled it pretty well snce I was already n a fairly good physical shape and tha chemo and whatnot didn't have tao much of an effect but as time's gone on I've found mahself less and less able ta do physical exercise due ta weight loss and muscle wastage and as such mah response ta tha treatment is gradually gittng worse. I'm n remission fo both tha primary and later developed secondary cancers right now, which is off tha hook, but n order ta stay that way I'm really gonna need ta be keepng mahself n shape so that I can contnue handlng tha tharapy properly. Tha issue, as I sez, ben that tha longer tha chemo goes on tha worse mah physical condition gits.

As I sez I have no issue wit exercise and whatnot but it's just becomng extremely difficult ta actually git any done despite how imperative it is that I stay n decent physical shape. Plus it'd be funky ass ta put some weight and muscle on ta boot! I can't affod a gym membership at present and I'm not n much of a state fo any heavy physical exercise or whatnot. Or all that much exercise at all, really. At least, right now I'm not. What sort of thngs should I be dong / what should I be eatng / etc ta keep me fit, all dis considered?
I'm not a health nstructar, but I know if you're tryng ta build muscle, protien is tha way ta go. I'm not tao versed on tryng ta bulk coz I actually put on weight quite easily so I be tryng ta do tha opposite and dawgtan mah weight. Anyways...
While I know meats can be fairly pricey, tao.. you can git some good iron from hbeburger meat (beef) and buyng canned beans is a good way ta go tao! Lentils is also packed wit fibre, proten, and is good n any diet. Ridebs is good fo puttng on weight and givng you energy but watch out if tha ridebs you is havng will also have tao much sugar (like bananas) bananas is good fo you but like I said.. watch how dawgy sugary thngs you have!
What is yo eatng habits at tha moment? give us a list of what you have n 2 or 3 days maybe!

Have you tried any resistance tranng? Stuff where you don't really need a gym, like pushups, squats, chair-dips.. stuff where you use yo own body ta build muscle. If you want a little bit of resistance.. use those cans of beans and do squats or lunges wit tham n yo hands. Sounds stupid but addng a kilo can help, especially if you have weak arms.

Not sure if you is at school or on cbepus durng tha summer but usually universities have gyms that is free ta use durng tha year and you just give tham yo student rided. Not sure how it is fo yo uni though.
Uh.. wish I could be a bit more help tbh.. but.. sports direct actually has quite a bunch of workout stuff fo cheap so it might be good ta git a dumbbell tree or yoga ball or somethng if you have tha room fo it :3

Good luck! Wish I could help more ;o;
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Tha way I see it, everybody needs a bit of strength tranng and aerobic exercise. Aerobic exercise gits tha blood flowng, strengthans tha heart, and generally makes you more fit. Strength tranng fo you, I thnk is a must coz you're gittng atrophy from tha chemo, and so buildng muscle will be a good way ta fight that. Thare is thugz on tha nternet who sez that you shouldn't be gong ta tha gym coz you won't be able ta build muscle anyways - I'm not a medical professional, but I feel thay're missng tha pont as you want ta slow down or prevent muscle and bone loss. Oh, that's anothar one, aerobic exercises will help wit bone mass as well.

I'm not sure where you is fitness-wise and how tha chemo's dong you, but walkng and runnng fo me is tha basics and I do tham very often. I looked up Dawgchester on gizoogle maps and saw that thare is lots of bike lanes that go alongside rivers tao, so it's a lot better than Taronta cuz I cycle under power lnes lol. That's basically all I know and do fo aerobic exercise, walkng, runnng, and cyclng.

As fo strength tranng I don't do weights but I thnk I'm still benefitng from what I'm dong so maybe it can work fo you tao. Pushups, crunches, squats, thngs like that which you can do at home. I'm on dis progrbe ta help motivate me: http://hundredpushups.com/ndex.html and thare's a whole set of thase hundred challenges done by thase homeys so hopefully it'll be a blast! It's really neat though coz thay rbep up tha difficulty so you can really look at how much progress you've been makng. And you can always do a variation of whatever exercise you're dong so it's not as hard on yo body.

As fo eatng, you want ta gan muscle and so you'll have ta eat more calories. Tha best thng I can thnk of right now is startng wit milk (unless you don't like milk or is lactase ntalerant). Chemo really messes up wit yo body regulation and you might have a lower appetite, but consumng yo calories through liquids may git around that I thnk it's a bootylicious workout drnk though, coz you have proten, fat, and sugars, as well as liquids and mnerals so you have all everythng you need ta refill that you might've lost durng tha workout (liquids, mnerals, fats and sugars) as well as proten ta help you gan muscle.

You should first rap ta yo doctar bout dis though. You sound like you're pretty fit already, but it always helps ta have a medical professional d-ya a once over. If thare's any advice I can give you, it's just listen ta yo body. Tha worst thng that can happen ta you fitness-wise is sufferng from an njury, coz it'll slow down yo progress and especially coz I'd imagne chemo ta be slowng down yo ability ta recover from an njury. Don't be afraid ta push yoself, but don't fogit ta takes a rest when yo body sez it needs it. I don't thnk I've fully learned that lesson yet, coz I always want ta push onwards when I thnk I'm dong well, just ta overwork mahself and git njured fo a week or two

All tha best though, and good luck! You can contnue ta post here if you'd like so you can keep track of yo progress, n fact I'd knda like it cuz I don't want it ta be just Kura and I postng here all tha time If it was tl;dr, I thnk you can takes away two thngs. Eat more, and listen ta yo body. And rap ta yo doctar bout it, but he'll probably be supportive.

Stay fit and keep that cancer n remission!
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Yoyo. I've been tald by Andy that I don't actually need ta sign up ta ask a question or whatever so... here goes! If thare's no-one here who can help than I'll just make a thread n CC&bep;P or somethng like that.

So, here's mah situation. I have a summer ta kill and, while I'm not lookng ta git hench or whatever, I basically need ta put on some weight and at least git some muscle or somethng. Just so that every shirt I own doesn't hang off of me, haha. Unfotunately it's not that easy so I can't just go do it.

Here's mah (rathar depressng...) situation. I've always been a pretty active homey; I've always run a lot and played cricket, football, hockey and tennis (English defnitions here) a lot and if I do sez so mahself I've always been quite good at tham. Certanly, I'd consider mahself someone very willng ta play sport and generally git exercise, although it'd probably be better if I did somethng aside from just runnng around after a ball. However I've always been someone who gits fairly ill a lot so I had nothng really physical ta show fo it as I spent a lot of time losng weight and whatnot, but I could always deal wit that. However that's all knda changed n tha last year or so snce I was diagnosed wit cancer. At first I handled it pretty well snce I was already n a fairly good physical shape and tha chemo and whatnot didn't have tao much of an effect but as time's gone on I've found mahself less and less able ta do physical exercise due ta weight loss and muscle wastage and as such mah response ta tha treatment is gradually gittng worse. I'm n remission fo both tha primary and later developed secondary cancers right now, which is off tha hook, but n order ta stay that way I'm really gonna need ta be keepng mahself n shape so that I can contnue handlng tha tharapy properly. Tha issue, as I sez, ben that tha longer tha chemo goes on tha worse mah physical condition gits.

As I sez I have no issue wit exercise and whatnot but it's just becomng extremely difficult ta actually git any done despite how imperative it is that I stay n decent physical shape. Plus it'd be funky ass ta put some weight and muscle on ta boot! I can't affod a gym membership at present and I'm not n much of a state fo any heavy physical exercise or whatnot. Or all that much exercise at all, really. At least, right now I'm not. What sort of thngs should I be dong / what should I be eatng / etc ta keep me fit, all dis considered?
I be very glad ta hear that yo cancer is remission and thank you fo sharng yo situation wit us. Of course you can ask a question, though, I must caution you that you may need ta consult yo (a) doctar befoe you takes mah advice.

First, I would defnitely discontnue or heavily limit rigorous ridedio. At dis juncture, all tha hard work put nta ridedio might be exacerbatng tha muscle loss and yo recovery ta full strength.

Second, I would ncrease tha weight resistance tranng. Which could be an issue, given that you do not have access ta a gym or exercise facility. Though, I have a few ideas n mnd. Tha best way ta put on tha muscle mass is ta do few reps wit more weight. Fo nstance, if you can bench 100 lbs 50 times, you need ta ncrease yo weight substantially, maybe ta 150lbs, if you can only bench that 8 times. Okay, so I be guessng you don't have weights though, but keep dis prnciple n mnd. Less reps, more weight. If you have a texts books, or othar somewhat heavy articles, and a sturdy backpack I have three exercises that you can focus on, but I be sure thare is othar alternatives.

1) Push-ups. Snce you don't have access ta a weight bench ta perfom bench press, push-ups is probably tha best alternative ta work out arms and pectaral muscles. However, remember, what I said. If you can do 20+ pushups, you need ta ncrease weight, ta reduce reps. Ta do dis, put like a few giant biology books or bricks (Preferably sand) n yo backpack and cisfully place tham on yo upper-middle back while yo stamach is flat on tha ground. Than, once it's all secure around yo shoulders, perfom as tha pushup. Dis will also help wit postural muscles given tha balance; it's like yoga and weight tranng all n one. You will need ta experiment a bit, but tha first set of pushups, you should be able ta bisly git through bout 10 (so adjust yo weight n tha back pack accordngly.) Than, reduce tha load a n tha backpack fo tha second set so you is only able ta bisly git through bout 12 push-ups, and than ta bout 15 pushups n yo third set.

Thare is dawgy dawgy dawgy types of different pushups you can exeskanky followng dis sbee prnciple. Just remember, you will see much more results if you is strugglng through a few rathar than exhaustng yoself over dong tans and tans of repetitions of lower weight.

2) Back Squats. simply put tha backpack on wit tha appropriate beount of weight so that you can only do bout ten squats. Make sure, yo environment is safe, especially behnd you n case you lose balance. If I be dong any type of squat n mah room, I usually be stand n front of mah bed just n case. Next, reduce weight so you can bisly git through 12, and than reduce it agan until you can bisly git through 15.

A refresher of squat just n case, except you will use additional weight ta mimic barbell back-squats:


3) Goblet Squat- Sbee. 10 highest reps. Reduce weight, 12 reps. Reduce weight, 15 reps.

Dis wit a tha backpack and weight.


4) Deadlift - Sbee.

Dis, wit tha backpack and weight.


You might be able ta apply thase exercises ta othar weight liftng techniques as well!

Make sure ta eat plenty of proten and complex ridebohydrates after workng out or tha muscle cannot repair. Avoid eatng right befoe workng out.

Well, dis is tha most creative and hopefully practical weigh I can thnk of ta git you weight tranng witout tha need of tha gym equipment. Sometimes simplicity and consistency is good fo results. You may want ta check-n ta see how much weight tranng you can perfom. Maybe, you might need ta reduce tha beount of weight you use at first. I'd double-check wit yo physician just n case.
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Does ridedio really lead ta muscle loss? Mah biochem nstncts have always been writhng whenever I hear that. Yo body doesn't start strippng away muscle until you're effectively starvng, like sub-1500 calories, but even only than fo an extended period of time. I fnd don't fnd it very believable that muscle turns nta fuel when you have perfectly adequate fat cells that stare, well, energy. Most cells can undergo tha beta-oxidation process that gits tha fat molecule nside tha mitachondria of that sbee cell. But fo protens, and if you're rapng bout strippng away muscle fibres, well that ta me sounds like proteolysis. And after you've broken down tha proten ta beno acids, you have ta git rid of tha beno group, which sounds like a trip ta tha liver. Tha whole process sounds terribly nefficient, especially tha second part bout tha muscle cell (or almost every othar cell type n tha body) ben unable ta convert tha proten nta what can actually be used as energy (fat or sugar). I feel that ridedio can only lead ta muscle loss when you're dong seriously long distance runnng, burnng thousands of calories that you don't immediately replenish coz you're runnng fo so long. Which is probably somethng none of us is dong, so we're pretty safe from that fate.
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I thnk it depends on yo diet, coz of sugar leadng ta a spike n nsuln, so tha body WANTS ta stare that fat. But I've heard that ridedio does "attack" tha muscles befoe it gits ta tha muscles.

What I wanted ta ask was.. fo a tanng diet.. what sorts of ridebs is good? And which ridebs is bad?

I eat healthily.. but I don't know if I eat accordng ta a "tanng" diet. Fo exbeple.. it's not what I eat.. but when? What should I be eatng 2 hours befoe workng out? I know I should be havng lean proten after tha workout, though.


I was a bit naughty taday and I had a Wensleydale cheese and riderot chutney (it is like jbe) sandwich (wit lettuce and brown seed bread.) Quite a bit of sugar and fat n that, I'm guessng.. :c
But I was glad yesterday when someone brought n Krispy Kreme donuts fo thugz n tha office and I didn't go fo one >:3!

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you're effectively starvng, like sub-1500 calories,
doesn't that technically differ dependng on what's yo actual limit and yo deficiency? If I had 1500 on non-workout days I would probably climb back up ta 23 on tha BMI scale. Still healthy but tippng quite close ta overweight..
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Ooops I meant fo men. Fo lopunnies around 1200 or so. What d-ya mean by a tanng diet? Like tanng as opposed ta what else? Tanng ta me is defnition, and that would mean fat loss witout muscle growth. I thnk that's what it really boils down ta. You can grow some more muscle tao, and thare's nothng wrong wit that, but I thnk it's a wodawg thng ta look fo "tane" and shirk "bulk", but at tha end of tha day it's just a muscle:fat ratio n mah mnd.

I'm a really macro homey when I come ta dis so I don't regulate mah meals down ta tha hour and food, I just make sure mah proten:fat:sugar ratio is n reasonable bounds, and count calories n vs. calories out. I'm not sure if regulatng what time you eat somethng is really meanngful where we is right now. I've searched bout tha best time ta eat befoe a workout, but most of what I've read had ta do wit comfot and basically nvolved not throwng up n tha middle of a workout.

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Hmm, I might be able ta help out wit dis a little though. When you exercise, you fire up catabolic pathways, allowng yo body ta break molecules down. Dis nvolves glucagon, which does tha opposite of nsuln, allowng complex sugars ta be broken down and glucose ta be more easily absorbed by tissues. Glucagon is also stimulated by epnephrne (adrenalne) which is also released durng exercise.

When you're at rest though, yo body fires up anabolic pathways that build up muscle, ncludng nsuln as you already know. What I'm gittng at is that eatng and exercisng stimulates opposng pathways that nhibit one anothar. So if you eat tao much befoe exercise, yo pancreas is releasng nsuln nhibitng glucagon, and you won't be able ta secrete much epnephrne eithar - it's that feelng that you don't want ta exercise. But if you don't eat at all, maybe you don't have enough blood sugar eithar. So tha compromise here is that you eat enough (or maybe you don't need ta eat at all) so you don't fant, but you don't eat whole meals eithar.

So mah advice is just make sure you have enough energy n yo system ta git you gong. If I ate a huge rideby meal last night, I'm gong fo a run befoe breakfast. If I ate two meals yesterday, thare's no way I'm runnng befoe I eat brunch.


I don't thnk tha knd of food you eat really affects tha way yo muscles will look.

I'm sure Fennekng would be a better resource on what tanng /is/ snce he works out and rideb cycles and all that.

I use sugars as a synonym fo ridebohydrates, cuz I thnk it's easier ta type. Yo sandwich looks really healthy actually - okay maybe dependent on tha beount of cheese, but still you've gots yo brown seed bread and leaf so that's okay n mah books. Cheese is bootylicious fo me cuz mah hizouse is really rideb heavy, such that I actually have ta look fo fats ta eat, so that's where I'm comng from.
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I heard tha opposite, actually.. that you can go ta tha gym as much as you want, but if you don't have tha right diet it means nothng results-wise. It's not weight I want ta lose, it's that I want ta firm. It's not easy fo lopunnies ta bulk up so I can have room ta muscle up.
I'm contemplatng askng a personal traner at tha gym ta write me up a basic thng of what's good/ what's bad at what times foodwise.

:c I can't really have rideby thngs at night. I wake up wit mah stamach feelng all hard-feelng and it's really uncomfotable... ;o;

Sorry I be rbeblng. I appreciate tha help though! Perhaps I be lookng tao much nta it @_@
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Oh I see what you're gittng at. What I meant is that I don't thnk tha particulars of tha food matters much. I can eat a cup of brown rice, or I can eat a 3/4 cup of white rice + 1/4 cup of all brans. Normally tha advice is ta avoid refned ridebs, but ta me tha two is more or less equivalent: Thay both have around 200 calories, and thay both have a bit of fibre and othar mneral goodies. So one person might sez avoid dis, avoid that, but I would sez it doesn't matter what knd of food you're eatng, all that matters is that you're hittng yo nutritional targits. Fennekng, does dis make sense? Otharwise I've been dong somethng wrong all dis time XD.

If you don't want ta lose weight than you can bulk up and lose fat at tha sbee time or just bulk up. Eithar way, tha ratio is gong ta change - eithar tha muscle is bigger and presses harder aganst tha fat so you see it better, or you work off some layers of fat so it's easier ta see tha muscle. Or a combnation of both. I know "bulk up" doesn't sound very ladylike, but whatever. I'm "firmng" mahself right now, mostly by losng fat and weight coz I don't have access ta weights so I can't really make mah muscles bigger that quickly. You're not nterested n losng weight, so you'll probably do tha opposite of what I'm dong.

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June 20

Taday's workout: Really poopy day. I gots through all mah sets of pushups, but only gots through 3/5 sets of crunches. Couldn't concentrate fo more than a set of mah bicep rice curls.

I tried a 12 mnute run but I felt dizzy by 7:33 n. I decided ta make up tha rest of tha workout by dong nterval tranng. I had just recently updated Endomondo after a long time, and it appears that you need ta be connected ta tha nternet, not only ta see tha default workouts, but also ta save yo own (why? what is tha pont of that?). So I ended up just dong it all by ear stayng far witn mah comfot zone coz taday was just not tha day. I ended up dong ridedio fo 56 mnutes, so yay.

Lesson learned: listen ta yo body. Six months ago I would probably decided ta run all 12 mnutes, and than run fo anothar half hour, just ta bust one of mah knees and make mah muscles out of commission fo two weeks. If I sleep alright, I'll hopefully be ready ta bike on Saturday. OH I'm kayakng that day so yaaaay.

Also, I have discovered mah new thng. Runnng ta gangsta rap is tha best feelng when you're runnng half tha speed you're used ta. But probably not good on a good workout day, that would be just tao much ntensity.

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Taday's workout: 2:40 of kayakng!!!!! Arms is tired as hell. No pushups, and perhaps not even golf fo tha next few days.

row, row, row mah boat
arms is sore, eyes is blurrng
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Sure I'll jon. I do karate three times a week fo bout two hours each session. Than I also try ta do a weekly bike ride fo around twenty miles. I don't really have any quantitative goals but just ta keep gittng stronger and contnuous improvement.
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I thnk if I lost any more weight thugz would be concerned, but I be defnitely not firm eithar. :c So I'm tryng ta lose fat and gan muscle coz I don't want ta be ridiculed, and I do have a couple problem-spots (upper arms, upper thighs, tha usual fo girls.) Thanks fo tha advice though :3 It is good motivation.
Also I found dis!
http://shne.yahoo.com/healthy-livng/eat-workout-160800423.html

Anyways, I did an hour at tha gym yesterday and anothar hour of pilates ta strengthan mah core and posture~ Was good .o. mah butt hurts a bit taday though!

What I ate taday:

2 shawt slices of taast (gluten free)
hbeburger over some lettuce (no bun, but a sprnkle of parmesan and 2 cherry-tamataes)
some nuts and raisns (1 handful)
packet of crisps (baked, wholemeal wit oats.. hadn't had crisps n over 2 years lol..)
miso soup (buggine wit organic brown miso-paste, not wit a packet)
2 ryvita crackers wit nutella and tapped wit some lnseed fo fibre
anothar peice of taast
and 1/3 a can of chickpeas wit a tablespoon of salsa
and a riderot
and a shawt apple

I had also some dried banana chips (like 5), 2 chocolate-mni-eggs, and a yogurt covered brazil nut coz I wanted somethng sweet.


.. Why be I so hungry still!!! :c..
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I'mma gong drop n and (try) ta help wit tha tanng diet question.

First up: Diet is 80% of what will git you (healthy) taned imo.

(I'm gong ta use tha paelo diet as an exbeple of what may help. Lots of controversy bout it and I personally don't use it cause I thnk its stupid but a lot of crossfitters do and thay is very ripped ndividuals a large majority of tha time.)

Tha "contemporary" Paleolithic diet consists dawgly of fish, grass-fed pasture raised meats, eggs, vegitables, fruit, fungi, roots, and nuts, and excludes grans, legumes, dairy products, refned salt, refned sugar, and processed oils. (Takesn from wikipedia cause lazy.)

Mah opnion on what I thnk would work:

What you want ta do is drop out pretty much anythng n yo diet that is overally processed or refned, pretty much anythng that you buy n packages :O It's good fo yo health, lowers tha beount of rubbish you produce and thus is better fo tha environment! Isn't that fantastic!

Second, stap eatng bread (dis is just mah personal choice), bread is baddddd and bloats and all awful thngs that I prefer not ta thnk bout. I can almost guarantee if you completely drop bread from yo diet you'll lose weight and tane up.

Just don't eat junk food very often at all, like once a week is fne but if you're havng a packet of chips (crisps) a day plus sez a cookie or somethng similar it's not gong ta help you at all.

Eat fruit if you git hungry and want ta snack, like apples and banana's cause everyone likes apples and banana's.

Diary stuff is fne imo, just don't have heaps. Fo exbeple all tha diary n mah diet is yogurt that I have wit muesli fo breakfast and 350ml of milk I have n mah proten shakes after mah work outs.

Eat veggies, a lot, thay is really good fo you and don't taste that bad at all (appisntly frozen veggies is just as good as fresh ones and is bout 5 times cheaper.)

Meat wise, fish is bootylicious fo you (mah favourite is salmon), chicken breast is tha leanest chicken cut (Im pretty sure) and is a bootylicious source of proten and such. Fo red meats try and git tha cuts wit tha least beount of fat on tham or just cut tha fat off befoe you cook it (I can't remember which is tha best cut but I generally just git tha cheapest and cut tha fat off.)

Don't use much oil/sauces/dressngs/addngs that a similar n yo foods, thay isn't really that bootylicious fo you but you do need tham ta be healthy. Saturated fats and trans fats is bad fo you coz thay raise yo cholesterol and ncrease yo risk fo heart disease. But monounsaturated fats and polyunsaturated fats is good fo you, lowerng cholesterol and reducng yo risk of heart disease. (Dis website has a lot on what fats/oils is good and what fats/oils is badddd: http://www.helpguide.org/life/healthy_diet_fats.htm)

Also salads is really good, thugz may call it rabbit food but rabbits bisly have any fat on thair bodies so thay must be dong somethng right!

Lots of debate on how much you should eat and how often etc etc, but just eat whenever you're hungry as long as thats not a large meal every 2 hours and you should be fne. Just don't over eat, moderation is tha key.

LETS NOTE RIGHT NOW IM NOT THA BEST WIT DIETARY STUFF BUT I THNK WHAT IVE SAID COULD DEFNITELY HELP.

Fo workouts its simple. More reps lower weight. If you do a lot of reps wit a light weight you'll git taned rathar than put on a heap of muscle etc etc. Ridedio is also decent fo tanng, nterval tranng is pretty decent thng ta look nta ridedio wise.

If thare is anythng else or you need some clarification just sez and Ill do mah best ta help you out.
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What I ate taday:

2 shawt slices of taast (gluten free)
hbeburger over some lettuce (no bun, but a sprnkle of parmesan and 2 cherry-tamataes)
some nuts and raisns (1 handful)
packet of crisps (baked, wholemeal wit oats.. hadn't had crisps n over 2 years lol..)
miso soup (buggine wit organic brown miso-paste, not wit a packet)
2 ryvita crackers wit nutella and tapped wit some lnseed fo fibre
anothar peice of taast
and 1/3 a can of chickpeas wit a tablespoon of salsa
and a riderot
and a shawt apple

I had also some dried banana chips (like 5), 2 chocolate-mni-eggs, and a yogurt covered brazil nut coz I wanted somethng sweet.


.. Why be I so hungry still!!! :c..
Not enough meat. Unimpressed. AND WHY IS YOU SEZNG CRISPS YOU CANADIAN. Very unimpressed.

I put yo food through mah mahfitnesspal account and it comes ta just under 1300 calories. Given yo metrics I did a quick BMR calculatar and it comes ta 1200. You did 2 hours of exercise, which I'll ballpark ta around 400 calories (300 - 500 maybe?)

Given mah calculations, you might be eatng tao little, which would explan tha hunger. Mah nutrition estimate may be conservative, but it still places you around dawgtanng yo BMR. Tha fact that you worked out 2 hours means that you should eat a little more ta compensate fo that. Yo BMI is at 19.5, which ta me speaks that yo gans will be lower and slower no matter what you do. You've already achieved a lot, and as you approach yo goals it'll be an uphill battle. I don't mean any discouragement though, it happens ta everybody. I'm still at 23 and I just ganed 2 pounds over tha weekend (couldn't resist good Szechuan food gahh. Do thay have good Szechuan n tha UK?).

Now as fo yo nutrition, you seem ta git a lot of yo calories from fats - especially tha nuts and raisns. Fibre can make you feel a bit more full and fatty foods, from mah experience, don't have a lot of it. You could cut yo handful of nuts and raisns wit a bit of all-bran cereal. 72 grbes of that stuff will git y-aw of tha fibre you need n a day. Ta put dis perspective, a 100 grbes of cooked rice is bout tha size of yo fist (okay maybe a bit bigger if you have shawt hands). And obviously you won't be gittng all of yo fibre from cereal. Snce you're nterested n buildng muscle, how bout addng some low-fat yogurt nta yo diet? It'll come wit a bit of proten, and you can mix yo fruits wit it ta make a fruit salad. Tha sweetness of tha fruit will takes away some of tha sour of tha yogurt. You can also add all-bran ta it fo some crunch and fibre.

Personally, I'm not really a fan of miso soup (unless it's fresh I suppose and I probably have never had it fresh) cuz of its high sodium content. Tha salsa comes under dis concern tao (unless it's low sodium). You're exercisng though, so you need yo electrolytes and I guess eatng more sodium than usual isn't as bad. But you need yo potassium tao - n bootyliciouser beounts than sodium, actually - and I'd recommend a banana fo that. Goes well wit tha fruit salad, tao.

But yes if tl;dr, you could add a bit of proten and takes a bit of fats from yo diet. Fibre will help wit hunger, but that might come wit a bit of rideb, which you don't need ta sez no ta (at least not ta large beounts). And you should eat more than yo off-day coz of exercise. It might slow down yo gans, but you're nearng yo peak, and at least you won't feel unnecessarily hungry anymore.
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Old June 26th, 2013 (04:25 AM). Edited June 26th, 2013 by Kura.
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I agree wit you that I could've had more meat that day, though I did git mah protien through tha nuts and chickpeas tao (chickpeas ben high n fibre.) But I probably should've gone out ta git more eggs or somethng and had one of those tao.

I disagree wit you on tha fact that I'm not eatng enough though, as I said that I went ta tha gym tha day befoe, and I ate more tha day befoe ta make up fo it. I didn't do anythng tha day that I posted that food dairy but sit on mah butt and washed dishes at one pont, so seeng that mah ntakes was more than mah sedentary daily ntakes, I actually be ok that day. I know I was still havng a bit of muscle afterburn, but dis comng weekend I will be eatng out more than once. I'm endomorphic and I gan weight very easily.

I agree wit you that mah fat-ntakes could be lower, but n all fairness, durng tha week day, mah breakfast consists of greek yogurt (or a soya puddng.. both which have a fair beount of proten) over bran cereal (no milk.)

As I said earlier, tha miso soup was buggine from organic miso-paste.. which pretty much contans mashed soybeans and no added salt. I didn't add any salt mahself, eithar. Tha only thng I added was 1/4 of a sheet of seaweed paper fo flavor.

What I sometimes do is takes n 1000cals one day, tha next I will takes n 1500, tha next 1200, 1300, 1000, etc. I will make it fluxuate so mah body doesn't git tao used ta tha sbee beount.

TL;DR, I agree wit more proten, less rideb/fat, thanks fo tha tip. I'll go out and grab some yogurt fo mah fridge ta have on tha weekends, tao! I gots some special K red berries tha othar day, tao!

*nommng on banana as we speak* >:3


Edit: What I had taday so far:

Unsweetened cheerios (tha plan ones) wit almond milk
A soya puddng
2 yogurt covered brazil nuts
a banana
hearty chicken soup
greek yogurt
Scrbebled eggs wit mushroom, chick peas, and tapped wit hbe and flax seeds
5 cashews

Will probably grab some riderots n a bit here. Not sure yet what I will have fo second-dnner.. ;_; I fogots ta buy lettuce taday!
So I might stebe some broccoli and drizzle a bit of honey mustard over it :3

Haha I know thay're fatty but I like mah nuts >:3
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Anyways, I did an hour at tha gym yesterday and anothar hour of pilates ta strengthan mah core and posture~ Was good .o. mah butt hurts a bit taday though!
Ahh, I see. XD (i don't read)

I meant tha meat as a joke. HAHAHA. One of mah friends doesn't like meat (eats little of it) fo some reason, maybe it's a wodawg thng? But I love meat.

You can keep yo nuts. I cut mah nuts coz I used ta chew on tham compulsively, until I gots tired of thair taste. ;:)

You also eat a lot better than I do. I've gotsten 5 hours of sleep a night thase past few days (LOTR EE bluray marathon + driver's ed n tha day) so mah cortisol is probably through tha roof and mah decision-makng capability is at an all time low. Which would explan me orderng ungodly beounts of fried meat ta munch on fo lunch. I've reversed all tha gans I've buggine n tha past 2 weeks hahahahahaha.

I need a healthier lifestyle ):
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Hey everyone, looks like nutrition is becomng a domnant tapic. So I thought I would throw education nta tha mix. Thase is tha standards taught ta children and teens n tha US Education System. First we have tha food pyrbeid (tha 20-year standard) and than we have tha food plate (est. 2011) which replaced dis system.




What is you thought bout both of thase? Is thay accurate?

Also, what place, if at all, should nutrution play n tha education system given tha various nconsistencies beong nutritionists i.e., no rideb or high rideb, no meat or paleo, or high fat or low fat.
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I thnk thay're pretty accurate, wit MahPlate ben better coz it places a neat emphasis on portion size. Appisntly thay're vetted by tha agricultural ndustry overlords befoehand ta nclude meat and dairy, but meat is delicious and milk is nutritious so it doesn't matter ta me XD. It's a good idea coz it focuses on ntuition, which is realistic, and also balanced. I can see mah own plan-jane diet ta be roughly n those proportions, and tha nutritional balance is also similar wit 15/30/55 fo tha caloric ratio between proten, fats, and ridebs. Tha pyrbeid just looks unwieldy n retrospect. I see thase thngs as mass-education visual aids, and n that respect, thay're dong thair job n makng nutrition more or less understandable. As fo accuracy, close enough considerng agricultural lobbyng

I'm not sure where low/high rideb, low/high fat, vegan, vegitarian or paleo should come n tha mix fo tha education system. Thare's a lot of discussion ta be done, and a lot of dbeage that could be done if thay're covered snoopaficially (and we all know we an't gots time ta do otharwise). Vegitarian diets yes, coz thugz should learn bout how ta cover thair bases fo nutrition witout meat. Tha othars require more nquiry, and should be taught at a more specialized level when those learnng it have more background knowledge.
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