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Old July 6th, 2013, 11:49 PM
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Zhuq
Pokemon Trainer Zarraf
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Gender: Male
Nature: Brave
Please rate my team along with move sets, Hoenn Ubers.
Sceptile
Level 100
Leaf Blade
Aerial Ace
Bullet Seed
Earthquake
Blaziken
Level 100
Double Kick
Blaze Kick
Aerial Ace
Sky Uppercut
Swampert
Level 100
Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Hammer Arm
Aggron
Metal Claw
Flash Cannon
Thunderbolt
Rollout
Absol
Dark Pulse
Shadow Ball
Psycho Cut
Aerial Ace
Rayquaza
Fly
Dragon Claw
Extremespeed
Thunderbolt
Hope you love my team!
Also give me items to give them.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 09:51 AM
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Please include EV stats, Natures, and items next time, so that we can have a more thorough review.

Umm... In the Ubers tier, I wouldn't think about having any of these Pokemon, apart from Rayquaza. If you really want to do well with your three starter Pokemon in the team, along with Absol and Aggron, I'd recommend the OU tier, but Rayquaza is not permitted in this case. As for how the team looks defensively without Rayquaza nothing resists Fighting, so a Ghost type is recommended. Gengar is a good choice as its added Poison typing adds more resistances. I also notice that there are no status moves at all in your team.

I'll give a more detailed review if you can address these concerns.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 08:15 AM
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Pokemon Trainer Zarraf
 
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Nature: Brave
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Originally Posted by Boilurn View Post
Please include EV stats, Natures, and items next time, so that we can have a more thorough review.

Umm... In the Ubers tier, I wouldn't think about having any of these Pokemon, apart from Rayquaza. If you really want to do well with your three starter Pokemon in the team, along with Absol and Aggron, I'd recommend the OU tier, but Rayquaza is not permitted in this case. As for how the team looks defensively without Rayquaza nothing resists Fighting, so a Ghost type is recommended. Gengar is a good choice as its added Poison typing adds more resistances. I also notice that there are no status moves at all in your team.

I'll give a more detailed review if you can address these concerns.

Sceptile holds a Miracle Seed, Blaziken holds Charcoal, Swampert holds Mystic Water, Aggron holds Amulet Coin, Absol holds Red Card and SkyHigh holds Dragon Fang, and I don't know my Stats, but Sceptile has a high Sp.Attack and Speed. And Sceptile and Blaziken knows Aerial Ace to battle. And I don't need status moves 'cause I go Offensive.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Most of your Pokemon are HORRIBLE in Ubers. Sceptile is terrible because of its bad defenses and average Special Attack by Uber standards. Swampert, while bulky, can't hit the opponent too hard with its special moves. Aggron's defensive typing is downright terrible in Ubers because of all the Water, Fighting and Ground moves scattered about in Ubers. Absol is too defensively frail and slow to be in Ubers, and not even Sucker Punch can save it. Only Blaziken and Rayquaza see use in there. Really, there's no need to go all-out offensive in Ubers; a lot of Uber teams use status moves to gain the upper hand. Your Pokemon won't like being put to sleep by Darkrai's Dark Void, being paralyzed by Kyogre's/Groudon's Thunder Wave or being poisoned by Lugia's Toxic for instance. You won't be getting anywhere with just Hoenn Pokemon; you need Pokemon from other regions too. If any of my suggestions don't suit this team, I can make a new post to accommodate it.

For starters, Blaziken should use Speed Boost, and Speed Boost ONLY. That's what makes it so good in the Uber environment. It also has little use for Aerial Ace, as a super effective unSTABed Aerial Ace does less than a neutral STAB Flare Blitz/Hi Jump Kick:
-Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Hi Jump Kick
-Protect
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe

Rayquaza's movepool is very good and it certainly has the offensive stats to take advantage of it. But it has better coverage moves than Fly and Thunderbolt. Fly gives your opponent a free switch-in:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Overheat
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/V-Create
-ExtremeSpeed
-Outrage/Dragon Tail
Nature: Naive/Hasty
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

or
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Draco Meteor
-Earthquake/Fire Blast
Nature: Mild/Rash
EVs: 40 Atk/252 SAtk/216 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Swords Dance
-Outrage
-ExtremeSpeed
-V-Create
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Outrage
-V-Create
-Draco Meteor
-ExtremeSpeed/Earthquake
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Outrage
-ExtremeSpeed
-V-Create
-Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band

Now, I'll replace the rest of your Pokemon to match up with Uber standards:

Absol for Darkai (because it hits faster and harder, and has Dark Void to give your team an easier time):
-Dark Void
-Dark Pulse
-Focus Blast/Nasty Plot
-Substitute/Nasty Plot
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb/Focus Sash

or
-Dark Pulse
-Focus Blast/Nasty Plot
-Dark Void
-Trick
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Dark Void
-Thunder Wave
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty Plot/Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

Aggron for Dialga (sure, Dialga shares 2 of Aggron's weaknesses, but it can take them better):
-Stealth Rock
-Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Fire Blast
-Roar/Dragon Tail/Thunder
Nature: Modest/Quiet
EVs: 252 HP/56 SAtk/200 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pressure

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Outrage/Brick Break
-Thunder/Bulk Up
Nature: Mild/Quiet
EVs: 252 Atk/252 SAtk/4 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure

or
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Bulk Up
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pressure

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Thunder
-Dragon Pulse/Stealth Rock
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 Spe (Choice Specs) or 56 HP/252 SAtk/200 Spe (Choice Scarf)
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Swampert for Palkia (because Palkia hits faster and harder than Swampert can):
-Surf
-Spacial Rend/Draco Meteor
-Thunder
-Fire Blast/Outrage/Draco Meteor
Nature: Timid/Hasty
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Surf
-Spacial Rend
-Aqua Tail/Outrage
-Fire Blast/Thunder
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt/Lustrous Orb

or
-Draco Meteor
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Spacial Rend
-Thunder/Fire Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs

or
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Spacial Rend
-Thunder/Fire Blast/Surf
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 100 Atk/156 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Expert Belt

or
-Aqua Tail
-Outrage
-Spacial Rend/Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/Thunder
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Lustrous Orb/Life Orb

Sceptile for Shaymin-Sky (it's faster and hits harder):
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Seed Flare
-Air Slash/Hidden Power (Fire)/Earth Power
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Seed Flare/Leaf Storm
-Air Slash
-Earth Power
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Growth
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf/Lfe Orb
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Old July 12th, 2013, 10:02 PM
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Pokemon Trainer Zarraf
 
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Nature: Brave
Quote:
Originally Posted by PlatinumDude View Post
Most of your Pokemon are HORRIBLE in Ubers. Sceptile is terrible because of its bad defenses and average Special Attack by Uber standards. Swampert, while bulky, can't hit the opponent too hard with its special moves. Aggron's defensive typing is downright terrible in Ubers because of all the Water, Fighting and Ground moves scattered about in Ubers. Absol is too defensively frail and slow to be in Ubers, and not even Sucker Punch can save it. Only Blaziken and Rayquaza see use in there. Really, there's no need to go all-out offensive in Ubers; a lot of Uber teams use status moves to gain the upper hand. Your Pokemon won't like being put to sleep by Darkrai's Dark Void, being paralyzed by Kyogre's/Groudon's Thunder Wave or being poisoned by Lugia's Toxic for instance. You won't be getting anywhere with just Hoenn Pokemon; you need Pokemon from other regions too. If any of my suggestions don't suit this team, I can make a new post to accommodate it.

For starters, Blaziken should use Speed Boost, and Speed Boost ONLY. That's what makes it so good in the Uber environment. It also has little use for Aerial Ace, as a super effective unSTABed Aerial Ace does less than a neutral STAB Flare Blitz/Hi Jump Kick:
-Swords Dance
-Flare Blitz
-Hi Jump Kick
-Protect
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe

Rayquaza's movepool is very good and it certainly has the offensive stats to take advantage of it. But it has better coverage moves than Fly and Thunderbolt. Fly gives your opponent a free switch-in:
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Overheat
Nature: Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/V-Create
-ExtremeSpeed
-Outrage/Dragon Tail
Nature: Naive/Hasty
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

or
-Dragon Dance
-Outrage
-Draco Meteor
-Earthquake/Fire Blast
Nature: Mild/Rash
EVs: 40 Atk/252 SAtk/216 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Swords Dance
-Outrage
-ExtremeSpeed
-V-Create
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

or
-Outrage
-V-Create
-Draco Meteor
-ExtremeSpeed/Earthquake
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Outrage
-ExtremeSpeed
-V-Create
-Earthquake
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Choice Band

Now, I'll replace the rest of your Pokemon to match up with Uber standards:

Absol for Darkai (because it hits faster and harder, and has Dark Void to give your team an easier time):
-Dark Void
-Dark Pulse
-Focus Blast/Nasty Plot
-Substitute/Nasty Plot
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb/Focus Sash

or
-Dark Pulse
-Focus Blast/Nasty Plot
-Dark Void
-Trick
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Dark Void
-Thunder Wave
-Dark Pulse
-Nasty Plot/Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

Aggron for Dialga (sure, Dialga shares 2 of Aggron's weaknesses, but it can take them better):
-Stealth Rock
-Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Fire Blast
-Roar/Dragon Tail/Thunder
Nature: Modest/Quiet
EVs: 252 HP/56 SAtk/200 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pressure

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Outrage/Brick Break
-Thunder/Bulk Up
Nature: Mild/Quiet
EVs: 252 Atk/252 SAtk/4 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure

or
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Bulk Up
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Pressure

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Thunder
-Dragon Pulse/Stealth Rock
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 252 HP/252 SAtk/4 Spe (Choice Specs) or 56 HP/252 SAtk/200 Spe (Choice Scarf)
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf

Swampert for Palkia (because Palkia hits faster and harder than Swampert can):
-Surf
-Spacial Rend/Draco Meteor
-Thunder
-Fire Blast/Outrage/Draco Meteor
Nature: Timid/Hasty
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

or
-Surf
-Spacial Rend
-Aqua Tail/Outrage
-Fire Blast/Thunder
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Expert Belt/Lustrous Orb

or
-Draco Meteor
-Hydro Pump/Surf
-Spacial Rend
-Thunder/Fire Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs

or
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Spacial Rend
-Thunder/Fire Blast/Surf
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 100 Atk/156 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Expert Belt

or
-Aqua Tail
-Outrage
-Spacial Rend/Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/Thunder
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Lustrous Orb/Life Orb

Sceptile for Shaymin-Sky (it's faster and hits harder):
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Seed Flare
-Air Slash/Hidden Power (Fire)/Earth Power
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

or
-Seed Flare/Leaf Storm
-Air Slash
-Earth Power
-Hidden Power (Ice/Fire)/Growth
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf/Lfe Orb
The reason why I go with Hoenn us because it helps a lot in battle and I also switch in Kyogre and Groudon for a change. In addition my Sceptile beat my Friend's Infernape and Swampert beat my Friend's Torterra, also, Blaziken beat my friend's Palkia. Sceptile also beat Darkrai with the first Darkrai move set you told me. And my team is cool. AND I HATE SHAYMIN!!!!!! SCEPTILE'S BETTER!!!
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Old July 13th, 2013, 09:16 AM
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In my opinion I don't mean to be rude but I think that you have no experience in competitive battling (in other words battling online). To prove to the world that your team is good why not try your team out in one of our Battle Simulators? http://pokemonshowdown.com/ is one of our most popular Pokemon battling sites. It's highly doubtful that you will win with this current team, especially in ubers. Also, some of the Pokemon that you don't like may have better qualities than some of your favorite Pokemon, for example, Shaymin has better bulk than Sceptile does.
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