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Old July 14th, 2013 (05:14 PM).
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This is the carefully ev trained and put together team I came up with I yet need some advice on how to use them to their full potential.

Lucario:
Moves;sword dance,aura sphere,extremespeed, ice punch
Item;life orb
Nature;Mild
Stats;
hp=281
attack=288
defense=158
sp.attack=361
sp.defense=176
speed=240
Ability;justified

Hydreigon:
Moves;draco meteor,fire blast, super power, earthquake
Item; white herb
Nature;Mild
Stats;
hp=346
at=267
de=194
sp.at=383
sp.de=216
speed=246
Ability;levitate

Mismagius:
Moves;Shadow Ball,Thunderbolt, Psybeam, Power gem
Item;Choice specs or choice scarf
Nature;Timid
Stats;
hp=261
at=140
de=156
sp. at=278
sp.de=277
speed=339
Ability; levitate

Umbreon:
Moves; toxic,curse,payback,baton pass
Item; leftovers
Nature;careful
Stats;
hp=331
at=166
de=319
sp.at=140
sp.de=394
speed=165
Ability; synchronize

Zoroark:
Moves;focus blast,night daze, flamethrower, nasty plot
Item; expert belt
Nature; Rash
Stats;
hp=261
at=277
de=156
sp.at=372
sp.de=140
speed=276
Ability; Illusion

Serperior:
Moves;Giga drain, dragon tail, coil, leech seed
Item; Meadow plate
Nature;jolly
Stats;
hp=312
at=186
de=247
sp.at=167
sp.de=247
speed=330
Ability=Overgrow
I can use some strategy advice on how to use them or to change any of the moves or items but i want to stick with these pokemon
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Old July 14th, 2013 (05:41 PM).
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There's no need to list the exact stats of each Pokemon.

Aura Sphere does NOT benefit from Swords Dance and should only see use on Special Lucario sets. Mild doesn't benefit Swords Dance Lucario in any shape or form:
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Hydreigon is better off with 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe; the nature is fine, though. White Herb is better on Shell Smash sets, IMO, and if you're playing under item clause, Expert Belt is an okay substitute for Life Orb.

While Mismagius is a good Pokemon in its own right, Gengar does whatever it can do better because it's stronger and faster:
-Substitute
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Disable/Pain Split/Thunderbolt/Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Black Sludge/Life Orb

or
-Substitute/Protect
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Fire)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Black Sludge

or
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Hidden Power (Ice)
-Trick/Thunderbolt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

However, what Mismagius has over Gengar is better special bulk, but it has better coverage moves than Psybeam:
-Nasty Plot
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power (Fighting)
-Thunderbolt/Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers

or
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power (Fighting)
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

None of your Pokemon benefit from Umbreon's Curses. The Speed drop is very detrimental on Lucario. Plus, Umbreon doesn't see much use in the standard environment because of its tendency as setup bait. Sableye is better at supporting the team and annoying the opponent:
-Taunt
-Will-o-Wisp
-Recover
-Foul Play/Night Shade/Snarl
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Prankster

There are better Grass Pokemon out there than Serperior. Ferrothorn is likely the best Grass Pokemon there because of its ability to check Water Pokemon easily:
-Spikes/Stealth Rock
-Leech Seed/Stealth Rock
-Power Whip/Leech Seed/Protect
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

If you want to keep Serperior, Giga Drain doesn't benefit from Coil at all, and it has a physical STAB in Leaf Blade. A Coil set should use physical moves only:
-Coil
-Leaf Blade
-Aqua Tail
-Return/Substitute/Synthesis
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
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Old July 15th, 2013 (06:59 PM).
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Thanks for the suggestions I'll be looking at my team and tweaking it a bit but like I said I want to keep my fav pokemon for now maybe later I might make another team using your suggestions
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Old July 15th, 2013 (07:31 PM).
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If you really want to keep Umbreon, here's the best set for it:
-Wish
-Protect
-Foul Play
-Heal Bell/Toxic/Yawn
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize

Curse isn't a good move to Baton Pass with, IMO, because of the Speed drop.
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Old July 16th, 2013 (01:11 PM).
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Alright sounds good ill get working on my team how's my Zoroark?
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Zoroark could use some improvement. Instead of a Rash nature you should have either a modest or timid nature. Since you have nasty plot, I would go ahead with the timid nature to make sure you can outspeed opponents.

If you want to try out a special Serperior here's a decent set for it:
Serperior
Item: Leftovers/Lifeorb
Nature: Timid
Ability: Overgrow
EV's: 252 HP, 252 Spe, 4 SpA
Calm Mind
Giga Drain/Leaf Storm
HIdden Power Rock
Dragon Pulse

I would say the physical moveset for Serperior is better for type coverage, but if you want a special wall, then this set should do nicely.
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Old July 16th, 2013 (03:50 PM).
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Ok make sense need some major inproving to do with the team I'll be working on them and that's a good moveset for serperior thanks
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Quote originally posted by TheMasterLucario1:
Ok make sense need some major inproving to do with the team I'll be working on them and that's a good moveset for serperior thanks
Leaf Storm and Calm Mind are counterproductive because Leaf Storm drops Special Attack by 2 stages after use, while Calm Mind brings up Special Attack (and Special Defense) by 1 stage per use. If you want to use Calm Mind Serperior, here's the best set for it:
-Substitute
-Calm Mind
-Giga Drain
-Hidden Power (Rock/Fire)/Dragon Pulse
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Do note that physical Serperior is still perfectly viable.
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Old July 17th, 2013 (03:21 AM).
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I see what u mean so for physical serperior u would use coil then leaf blade or aqua tail n if I need to recover use synthesis. umbreon with that moveset would be like a healing and bother opponent kind of thing right?
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Quote originally posted by TheMasterLucario1:
I see what u mean so for physical serperior u would use coil then leaf blade or aqua tail n if I need to recover use synthesis. umbreon with that moveset would be like a healing and bother opponent kind of thing right?
Yeah, that's the gist of what those particular Serperior and Umbreon sets generally do.
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Old July 17th, 2013 (03:03 PM).
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Ok I like them then ill be working on changing up those pokemon
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