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Old July 18th, 2013 (10:16 PM).
mmhawk607 mmhawk607 is offline
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Need help on building a drizzle/rain team.

I'm terrible at team building, or so I think. I've been playing Pokemon since I was young, but I never got into competitive playing until about a few days ago. I have tested this team a lot and right now I'm about 50/50 but I know it probably wouldn't be able to compete with more talented players.
Any feedback helps

Bold 252 HP 252 D 4 SpA

Calm 252 HP 252 SpD 4 SpA
-Volt Switch
-Hydro Pump
-Pain Split

Life Orb
Dry Skin
Adamant 252 HP 252 Att 4 SpD
-Bulk Up
-Drain Punch
-Sucker Punch

Toxic Orb
Poison Heal
Adamant 184 HP 252 Att 72 Spe
-Ice Fang
-Swords Dance

White Herb
Skill Link
Adamant 4 HP 252 Att 252 Spe
-Shell Smash
-Icicle Spear
-Rapid Spin
-Razor Shell

Water Absorb
Bold 252 HP 252 Def 4 SpA
Old July 18th, 2013 (10:25 PM).
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252/252 EV spreads aren't enough in most cases in competitive battling. Some Pokemon use speciaized EV spreads to outspeed certain opponents or to avoid being OHKOed/2HKOed by certain attacks.

Rotom-W's EV spread should be 248 HP/28 SAtk/228 SDef to make it take less damage from Stealth Rock while giving its Special moves a bit more bite.

Life Orb is counterproductive with Substitute, even with Dry Skin. Toxicroak's EV spread should be 244 HP/132 Atk/120 Def/12 Spe to prevent Terrakion who don't use Earthquake from 2HKOing it.

Really, I don't get why Gliscor is on the team. Is it here to check opposing Fire Pokemon? I think Dugtrio is a better option because it can trap and KO Tyranitar and Ninetales:
-Stone Edge
-Sucker Punch
-Stealth Rock/Memento
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Arena Trap

-Stone Edge
-Stealth Rock/Memento/Sucker Punch
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Arena Trap

Cloyster should use a Jolly nature, as Adamant makes Cloyster fail to ouspeed certain Choice Scarfers like Latios even at +2 Speed.

Jellicent should use 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe to let it outspeed min Speed Skarmory.

Something else to consider on the team is Ferrothorn because of its ability to check opposing Water Pokemon:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Leech Seed/Stealth Rock
-Power Whip/Protect/Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

Old July 19th, 2013 (12:47 PM).
mmhawk607 mmhawk607 is offline
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Thanks! I'll take in Ferrothorn into consideration. I like Jellicent mainly because of it's Taunting ability but I'll see.

I actually had no item on Toxicroak, and for some reason wrote down Life Orb. I have Leftovers on it now. and I'll make the changes to the EVs as you proposed and see how it differs.
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