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A mega Hydreigon would be one of the hardest Megas to get if it were made as it already evolves at a very high level...but if they were to make one they should make it a seven headed dragon. Or maybe an eight headed dragon like the Orochi.

Imagine a MegaSlacking...without Taunt...having the same ability it had as a Vigoroth...that thing would demolish in the battle field.
Most Pseudos would be like that...
Speaking of which, I just thought of something that should never be a mega, Slaking...
Since most of them get new abilities, if it lost its truant ability, AND got stronger.
And the thought of other proper legendaries.... Regigigas, losing its Slow Start ability and getting stronger...
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The names sound ridiculous. Should just be like a normal Pokemon that maybe has a different look once it's a mega, or maybe the nature changes to Mega nature. Just my opinion.
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Now I'm sure most of the evolution and pre-evolution fans wanted will never happen just because they will put a Mega evolution to them. Now it just feel that you need absolutely a Mega pokemon in your team by looking at this, I'm not reall excited about the upcoming Mega either.
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I wish these were more like shinies, in that, the only way to obtain one is to encounter a pokemon holding the stone, pre-evo or not, and then some sort of animation or sound to signify the item's presence I think that would make these pokemon more rare and special.

From the info we have, it's hard to tell if the stones are set in stationary places since it says,
"Some of the many Mega Stones seem to be hidden in secret places in the Kalos region. Finding every one of them will be one of the challenges awaiting you in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y!"

I hope they are not like hidden items that are easily discovered by using a simple google search. This could be interpreted several ways though, stationary placement may not be the case. It could be the case that the items are hidden in randomly generated areas. I hope they are able to in a way make the hunt similar in difficulty as encountering Feebas in RSE. That way the trainer might have to look in a particular areas for a stone, but never know the exact location with each runthrough of the game. And, I tell you, I love Milotic, the hunt made me cherish it even more! (except my last run through, in which I encountered one on my first cast of the fishing pole.)

Also, notice "SOME"! GF, you are killin' me with your vagueness, :p


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"Only certain Pokémon, under certain conditions, can achieve Mega Evolution. One of those conditions is a special item called a Mega Stone...Other things are needed for Mega Evolution to succeed, and those secrets will be explained later!"

Wondering what other conditions may be needed, I am thinking that it hints to something unique to each Pokemon, not something that is not secret worthy like perfect EV training. For instance, Ampharos learning a specific dragon move or Kangaskan obtaining max happiness. Erm, I can't think of anything that creative at the moment, but you get the gist.

What conditions other than a stone do you think will be required?
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I wish these were more like shinies, in that, the only way to obtain one is to encounter a pokemon holding the stone, pre-evo or not, and then some sort of animation or sound to signify the item's presence I think that would make these pokemon more rare and special.

From the info we have, it's hard to tell if the stones are set in stationary places since it says,
"Some of the many Mega Stones seem to be hidden in secret places in the Kalos region. Finding every one of them will be one of the challenges awaiting you in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y!"

I hope they are not like hidden items that are easily discovered by using a simple google search. This could be interpreted several ways though, stationary placement may not be the case. It could be the case that the items are hidden in randomly generated areas. I hope they are able to in a way make the hunt similar in difficulty as encountering Feebas in RSE. That way the trainer might have to look in a particular areas for a stone, but never know the exact location with each runthrough of the game. And, I tell you, I love Milotic, the hunt made me cherish it even more! (except my last run through, in which I encountered one on my first cast of the fishing pole.)


Other requirements
"Only certain Pokémon, under certain conditions, can achieve Mega Evolution. One of those conditions is a special item called a Mega Stone...Other things are needed for Mega Evolution to succeed, and those secrets will be explained later!"

Wondering what other conditions may be needed, I am thinking that it hints to something unique to each Pokemon, not something that is not secret worthy like perfect EV training. For instance, Ampharos learning a specific dragon move or Kangaskan obtaining max happiness. Erm, I can't think of anything that creative at the moment, but you get the gist.

What conditions other than a stone do you think will be required?
Ooooh! I wonder if it'll be one of those post-game challenges that earns a trainer star!
At least some of them will be in-game and not just through events, although the other conditions might be...tedious, such as specific natures, abilities, or etc.
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While I kind of wish that the parent Kangaskhan should've had a bit of a change itself, I like the baby' new design and how it fights alongside its mother. I can't wait on the full details of Parental Bond.
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A little disappointed. I was hoping the baby had another baby in its pouch. Oh well. Anyway, while it isn't the Normal/Dragon type I envisioned, I am happy the Kanghaskid gets his day in the limelight.
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A little disappointed. I was hoping the baby had another baby in its pouch. Oh well. Anyway, while it isn't the Normal/Dragon type I envisioned, I am happy the Kanghaskid gets his day in the limelight.
I always thought more of Normal/Ground type would fit Kangaskhan more.
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I always thought more of Normal/Ground type would fit Kangaskhan more.
Maybe, but Normal/Ground doesn't scream "Mega" for me.
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Maybe, but Normal/Ground doesn't scream "Mega" for me.
Well going from Normal to Normal/Ground would be something. And there are plenty of powerful moves that could get super-boosted by Mega form like Earthquake and Earth Power.
Unless it gets a double change.... Ground and something else.
Normal itself doesn't really fit 'mega'
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I wonder if they will allow non-flying pokemon to hop in the back of flying pokemon and let them participate in flying battles, like a cooperative/tag battle.

Probably kangaskhan mega evolution of attacking twice will make the second attack with half the power of the first one, but will allow to use the same move with different targets or two different moves with one target or probably both; who knows.

Talking about mega stones and post game achievements; maybe they will bring the medal system or an achievement record like in mystery dungeon or something similar to keep track on your achievements during gameplay (this makes me wonder if they will allow us to have a menu option that allows people to listen to the game soundtrack, there was one in the MD explorers of tthe sky).
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I am VERY relieved we are limited to one Mega. It is almost like that will be our signature pokemon, distinct from the rest. But honestly, this only works if all fully evolved pokemon get one. If not, I probably won't bite.
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Quote originally posted by Chr. Draco:
I wonder if they will allow non-flying pokemon to hop in the back of flying pokemon and let them participate in flying battles, like a cooperative/tag battle.
Nope. They have to be Flying or have Levitate to participate. If they aren't or don't have, then they cannot participate. From initial response not all Flying/Levitating Pokemon can participate either. They said there were some more restriction but never went into detail iirc. We'll know when the games come out though.

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I am VERY relieved we are limited to one Mega. It is almost like that will be our signature pokemon, distinct from the rest. But honestly, this only works if all fully evolved pokemon get one. If not, I probably won't bite.
They did say that not all the Pokemon will be getting some.

Like I've said before we can pretty much rule out those that already have Form Changes since Mega Pokemon are also Form Changes.

Keldeo, Meloetta and others like Cherrim who mostly change while in battle seem like they'd conflict with a Mega Form. Those with temporary changes like Rotom, Shaymin, Deoxys conflict as you can change the forms outside of battle needing to create multiple Mega Forms for the pokemon which I don't see happening. The you have Battle Item forms for Genesect, Arceus, and Giratina which I again don't see happening.

Other than Pokemon who already have Form Changes, a few gimmick Pokemon I can't see getting Mega Forms, Ditto, Smeargle, Zoroark. Two of them defeat the point of the Mega Form Gimmick and one is an attack gimmick.

I see maybe 20 to 30 Pokemon getting Mega Forms and I feel as if I'm being too generous with this. I think its going to be a small collection and not a large amount.
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Commenting on Kangaskhan's new ability:

Will it do an accuracy/Evasion/Crit check for both sets of attacks? If so that can be a potential weakness in the ability itself. If it has to do Accuracy/Evasion checks twice, that means that one of the two attacks can miss as well as the multi hit attacks....can Kanga learn any? For Multi hit attacks, the first can hit twice and the second hit three times or completely miss as well.

As it stands, even if it can hit twice its really not that different from doubling the power of the attack or stat like Huge Power does of Physical Pokemon. When you hit twice you can have the chance to miss twice as well.

As others said, the baby could also hit for half power, and they may even put restrictions like how Multi targeting attacks lose power when in Tag, Double and Triple battles.
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Commenting on Kangaskhan's new ability:

Will it do an accuracy/Evasion/Crit check for both sets of attacks? If so that can be a potential weakness in the ability itself. If it has to do Accuracy/Evasion checks twice, that means that one of the two attacks can miss as well as the multi hit attacks....can Kanga learn any? For Multi hit attacks, the first can hit twice and the second hit three times or completely miss as well.

As it stands, even if it can hit twice its really not that different from doubling the power of the attack or stat like Huge Power does of Physical Pokemon. When you hit twice you can have the chance to miss twice as well.

As others said, the baby could also hit for half power, and they may even put restrictions like how Multi targeting attacks lose power when in Tag, Double and Triple battles.
Well, I did mention something earlier, about maybe if the Mom misses, then the baby doesn't even get a chance to attack. Sort of like how Multi hit moves either hit multiple times, or not at all.
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Nope. They have to be Flying or have Levitate to participate. If they aren't or don't have, then they cannot participate. From initial response not all Flying/Levitating Pokemon can participate either. They said there were some more restriction but never went into detail iirc. We'll know when the games come out though.
I know, I was just saying that it would be nice if they add a mode where flying pokemon can carry smaller pokemon for sky battles, like in the anime; maybe it will come for future generations since sky battles are new and some test must be done before adding more complex features.
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I've always wanted Kangaskhan to be given a unique ability that allowed the baby to somehow participate, although my idea was automatically giving substitute for 25%HP the moment you switch in. To me, this is the perfect example of what I hope Megas will bring to the metagame: an opportunity for low tier pokemon, in this case a "PU" pokemon, that need a boost in battle yet either can't evolve further (Ampharos) or already seem in appearance like they're fully evolved (Absol).


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This is even more broken than Huge Power Mawile. >.> Double Fake Out...Sucker Punch that can break through sub, sturdy and sash...2 Helping Hands for a teammate. Scizor/Breloom + Technician + 2 Helping Hands = disgusting priority.
We haven't even seen the 6th generation metagame, so we can't call anything broken yet. This reminds me of back when people were saying things like no-weakness Spiritomb, Prankster Whimsicott, Zoroark, and Magic Bounce Espeon were going to be OP without any futher knowledge.

But let's say hypothetically Mega Kangaskhan was in Black/White OU. She's only 90 base speed, tied with Lucario, so quite a lot can outspeed and revenge kill her.You cannot hold choice scarf or salac berry because you're already holding a mega stone, not to mention you're unable to hold any other strength-boosting item. I imagine that 6th gen will be even more offensively paced than the last generation, so relatively speaking, even more pokemon will be able to counter her.

Sorry to all those who hate overly competitive talk, but I don't think a person can really claim that something's broken without considering things more broadly than just "we've never seen this before."
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Quote originally posted by Chr. Draco:
Talking about mega stones and post game achievements; maybe they will bring the medal system or an achievement record like in mystery dungeon or something similar to keep track on your achievements during gameplay (this makes me wonder if they will allow us to have a menu option that allows people to listen to the game soundtrack, there was one in the MD explorers of tthe sky).
There already was a Medal system introduced in B2/W2, which they might very well carryover into X and Y. I thought it was a pretty good idea, although there seemed to be WAYYYY too many medals, some of which can be unobtainable by some people. Such as trade and link medals for people who don't have anyone to connect to wirelessly or by infrared.

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Nope. They have to be Flying or have Levitate to participate. If they aren't or don't have, then they cannot participate. From initial response not all Flying/Levitating Pokemon can participate either. They said there were some more restriction but never went into detail iirc. We'll know when the games come out though.
You know, this does bode well for one pokemon in particular, Elektross. It has levitate AND it's electric, meaning, it can take down flying types. It also has a pretty wide movepool, with fire and dragon type moves in it, to face dragons, and flying-steel like Skarmory.
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Quote originally posted by Shrew:
I've always wanted Kangaskhan to be given a unique ability that allowed the baby to somehow participate, although my idea was automatically giving substitute for 25%HP the moment you switch in. To me, this is the perfect example of what I hope Megas will bring to the metagame: an opportunity for low tier pokemon, in this case a "PU" pokemon, that need a boost in battle yet either can't evolve further (Ampharos) or already seem in appearance like they're fully evolved (Absol).



We haven't even seen the 6th generation metagame, so we can't call anything broken yet. This reminds me of back when people were saying things like no-weakness Spiritomb, Prankster Whimsicott, Zoroark, and Magic Bounce Espeon were going to be OP without any futher knowledge.

But let's say hypothetically Mega Kangaskhan was in Black/White OU. She's only 90 base speed, tied with Lucario, so quite a lot can outspeed and revenge kill her.You cannot hold choice scarf or salac berry because you're already holding a mega stone, not to mention you're unable to hold any other strength-boosting item. I imagine that 6th gen will be even more offensively paced than the last generation, so relatively speaking, even more pokemon will be able to counter her.

Sorry to all those who hate overly competitive talk, but I don't think a person can really claim that something's broken without considering things more broadly than just "we've never seen this before."
Stats, don't always matter. With various natures, each boosting stats, including speed, and this new Super Training, pokemon that lack speed but have great power, will no longer be at such a loss. Most trainers who take advantage of EV training, will rid their pokemon of their bad qualities. My own Lucario has a speed high enough to defeat most high-speed dragons.

And I know it sounds, bad/op idea, but it'd be cool if they had a system for, hold-item shifting. Like, a backup item that takes the place of Mega stone after it's triggered. [I also think there needs to be a system anyway, swapping hold-items mid-battle]
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You know, this does bode well for one pokemon in particular, Elektross. It has levitate AND it's electric, meaning, it can take down flying types. It also has a pretty wide movepool, with fire and dragon type moves in it, to face dragons, and flying-steel like Skarmory.
If Elektross isn't one of the Pokemon with Levitate that isn't allowed to participate. Remember I said, when they announced it (initial talk about it) they said not all Flying and Levitating Pokemon would be able to participate. There are some obvious exclusions on both sides Flying type and Levitaters. Tynamo's line is one of the Levitaters that I don't expect to be allowed. Doduo is one of the flying types I don't expect to see allowed.
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Quote originally posted by Fenneking:
I am VERY relieved we are limited to one Mega. It is almost like that will be our signature pokemon, distinct from the rest. But honestly, this only works if all fully evolved pokemon get one. If not, I probably won't bite.
I missed that part of the news about only being allowed one mega, so thank you for informing me. I'm really happy for this too; This, along with megas being battle-only, greatly improve my reception.

There's more than 300 different evolutionary families, including legendaries. I do not believe that releasing all at once would be practical. I find it more likely that they would wait to introduce a bunch of mega possibilities for the 3rdversion/sequel and for events.

Alas, I wish they would first focus on giving pokemon that need improvements, such as Ampharos and Butterfree, and focus later on hyping events for megas for things which are already really powerful, such as Lucario.
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If Elektross isn't one of the Pokemon with Levitate that isn't allowed to participate. Remember I said, when they announced it (initial talk about it) they said not all Flying and Levitating Pokemon would be able to participate. There are some obvious exclusions on both sides Flying type and Levitaters. Tynamo's line is one of the Levitaters that I don't expect to be allowed. Doduo is one of the flying types I don't expect to see allowed.
I guess that is a good point. Most likely the accepted levitators won't be electric type, cause that would be completely unfair. I'm also sure that might include Emolga, as its species more represents a glider not a flier.
An idea that I just thought of for what levitators will be allowed, most likely Psychic types and ghost types. Probably nothing severely anti-flying, as most opponents you face mid-air will be flying type...give it a fairness.
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how about cryogonal, it's ice type and has levitate; of course the most common counter would be a close combat flying pokemon and it has low defence, also scyther and gyarados, i have only seen them on ground/ninja fighting and water battling respectively, none of them flying, i don't think they will make part in flying battles.
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