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Old September 19th, 2013 (02:55 PM).
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That can simply mean that the data for all Pokemon exists in the new games...which the data for all pokemon existed in every game to date so its a vague statement.

Like they said it has two meanings, first meaning is something we already know is going to happen and that is that all 700+ Pokemon that currently exist are programmed into this game.

The second meaning is that all 700+ Pokemon are available for capture in some way shape or form in these games.

I find the latter hard to believe as Event Only Pokemon are usually only available for event downloads.

As for Matsuda traveling far to tell us something meaningless....yes he does that on a fairly frequent basis...practically every time he travels with an announcement...its usually something meaningless. We've been lucky to get real news this time for X and Y but he still travels a lot just to tell us about things that really aren't important.
What's meaningful and meaningless are in the eye oh the beholder especially when you talk about games. And also the word I used wasn't meaningless it was obviouse . Anything that he announced wasn't obviouse , just saying .
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Old September 19th, 2013 (02:59 PM).
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I still don't see what everyone is surprised about having a ton of pokemon available in the game. There has always been a ton of pokemon available after you defeat the elite 4. BW2 is one example, you could catch almost 500 pokemon in the whole game. Only around 167 couldn't be obtained. That is counting starters and a good amount of legends. (The 167 is counting pokemon in Dream World and Radar)
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Old September 19th, 2013 (03:12 PM).
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I still don't see what everyone is surprised about having a ton of pokemon available in the game. There has always been a ton of pokemon available after you defeat the elite 4. BW2 is one example, you could catch almost 500 pokemon in the whole game. Only around 167 couldn't be obtained. That is counting starters and a good amount of legends. (The 167 is counting pokemon in Dream World and Radar)
I'm hoping they leave most of the Hoenn Pokemon if they are going to do something similiar again...
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Old September 19th, 2013 (03:13 PM).
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There are always some Pokemon absent. It motivates sale to some extent. Catching all the pokemon is hard. I caught 77 yesterday, 61 today, and still have 100 to go. (most of that was just using the poke-transfer, but still)
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Old September 19th, 2013 (03:27 PM).
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There are always some Pokemon absent. It motivates sale to some extent. Catching all the pokemon is hard. I caught 77 yesterday, 61 today, and still have 100 to go. (most of that was just using the poke-transfer, but still)
Yes, especially if they decide to make sequels and remakes...they'll be no new Pokemon they could add other than formes and possibly Megas should they put in all Pokemon into the games...
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Old September 19th, 2013 (04:07 PM).
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What's meaningful and meaningless are in the eye oh the beholder especially when you talk about games. And also the word I used wasn't meaningless it was obviouse . Anything that he announced wasn't obviouse , just saying .
I'm saying, in the past, he's come to America for something completely meaningless. He came for an announcement and the announcement wasn't even anything special. He's had multiple showings on Smash varying from just being there (he was said to appear for a special episode. It was hyped more than it should have been, he appeared and did absolutely nothing. No announcement. He was just there for show.)

They do this kind of thing all the time. A lot of the time it doesn't pertain to anything which does make it a meaningless advertisement as there was no meaning to him being there. He can travel to here to tell us what we already know. Under the disguise of something new as they always say, it has no meaning when he reiterates what's been said. Whether you use the word or not means nothing either. I said it and never said you said it.

The 3D aspect was pretty obvious. You could tell from the videos that part of them were rendered the same way that Gen 4 and 5 were. So really the game not completely being in 3D was pretty obvious. The only new thing I think we've gotten today was the EXP on capture...I don't even know if that was from Matsuda. Nothing he's given to us has any real use obvious or not. Media hype is usually blown out of proportion.


The info given still has more than one meaning, one of which is obvious and completely meaningless to share. If its the latter, then it has meaning, though whether that meaning is good or bad has yet to emerge itself. We'll need to have what was said clarified before we can even make a proper assumption. Two meanings with completely different outcomes. On one hand, its the same limitations that we've always had. On the other hand, all Pokemon are available between the two completely eliminating the need for other games from the past just for their Pokemon.

Once this has been cleared up, we'll know exactly what to expect in the games.
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Old September 19th, 2013 (04:10 PM).
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If all Pokemon are included it'll make transfering not as attractive...other than for those of us who are attach to our old Pokemon.

If they are all included I hope it doesn't eliminate the chance of Remakes, Sequels or a third version as that'll make this generation incredibly short...and we'll be speculating Gen VII in two years 0_o...
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Well considering they dropped the PokeBank to be the end all Transfer method with that update, this gen could get a large sum of them in there, either by special restrictions (Some legends and events not available while others like the starters are all hand outs, massive amounts of trades and things like this)

I don't personally think they'll put them all into the two games as it goes against everything they stand for. I can see them pulling something similar to B2W2 with more than the normal 200 or so Pokemon. Which is why I say his announcement was meaningless since I see it as the former description of it being all Pokemon programmed into the game. =\
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Old September 19th, 2013 (04:20 PM).
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Personally, I don't know what to think to all Pokemon being available, assuming they are of course. I just think saying "all Pokemon are available" as in all the data for them is implemented into the game is a little redundant. :s But assuming they are, I do wonder how they'll handle legendaries; having all the legendaries inhabit Kalos is overkill really. Not to mention all of the starters... Sure, the Kanto ones are fine but... idk, it just seems a bit strange. :s And this is without even taking into account the distribution/event Pokemon....
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Old September 19th, 2013 (04:30 PM).
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Well considering they dropped the PokeBank to be the end all Transfer method with that update, this gen could get a large sum of them in there, either by special restrictions (Some legends and events not available while others like the starters are all hand outs, massive amounts of trades and things like this)

I don't personally think they'll put them all into the two games as it goes against everything they stand for. I can see them pulling something similar to B2W2 with more than the normal 200 or so Pokemon. Which is why I say his announcement was meaningless since I see it as the former description of it being all Pokemon programmed into the game. =\
I agree, if they are to do another Pt or B2W2 they'll need some Pokemon to add in there (Pt added in Pokemon left out of the Sinnoh dex of course and B2W2 added in other regions Pokemon with were left out of the original pairs to those generations). Formes and Megas could only go so far into attracting intrest in the games...

Proably it is. Maybe saying that even though the Pokebank is coming later the rest of the Pokemon are programmed in and you'll be able to get the National (or Global which they should be calling it...) Dex after you defeat the league (unlike RS which had the others coded into the games but didn't give the national dex as there was no transfer from Gen II)
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Old September 19th, 2013 (06:26 PM).
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I sincerely doubt that Masuda's claim that, "all Pokémon are available" means that all Pokémon are available to catch in game. I'm definitely of the opinion that he means that all Pokémon have been programmed into the game and are available to use - I mean, if all Pokémon were available in the game, it would make the PokéTransporter (and perhaps even the Pokémon Bank) seem almost redundant.

I really doubt that you'll be able to capture every Pokémon in this game - for a start, we know that there are version exclusives already (Clauncher, Skrelp, Swirlix, Spritzee, Mewtwo X, Mewtwo Y), so how can what Masuda has said be taken that way at all?
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Old September 19th, 2013 (06:41 PM).
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I sincerely doubt that Masuda's claim that, "all Pokémon are available" means that all Pokémon are available to catch in game. I'm definitely of the opinion that he means that all Pokémon have been programmed into the game and are available to use - I mean, if all Pokémon were available in the game, it would make the PokéTransporter (and perhaps even the Pokémon Bank) seem almost redundant.



I really doubt that you'll be able to capture every Pokémon in this game - for a start, we know that there are version exclusives already (Clauncher, Skrelp, Swirlix, Spritzee, Mewtwo X, Mewtwo Y), so how can what Masuda has said be taken that way at all?
Well people who see it that way appear to think that together X and Y will have all of them...hopefully even that won't be the case...
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Old September 19th, 2013 (07:23 PM).
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I sincerely doubt that Masuda's claim that, "all Pokémon are available" means that all Pokémon are available to catch in game. I'm definitely of the opinion that he means that all Pokémon have been programmed into the game and are available to use - I mean, if all Pokémon were available in the game, it would make the PokéTransporter (and perhaps even the Pokémon Bank) seem almost redundant.

I really doubt that you'll be able to capture every Pokémon in this game - for a start, we know that there are version exclusives already (Clauncher, Skrelp, Swirlix, Spritzee, Mewtwo X, Mewtwo Y), so how can what Masuda has said be taken that way at all?
I am thinking that at least one duo will have in-game trades like Petilil and Cottonee in BW/
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Old September 19th, 2013 (07:31 PM).
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I just thought of something, perhaps that cave that is by itself on the west side of the map in the little island chain is where we will be able to catch Mewtwo after the Elite 4.
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Old September 19th, 2013 (08:48 PM).
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I don't get it , why would he just state that the pokemon will be coded in games? That's a big duh. If that wasn't the case how would poke bank work?
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Old September 19th, 2013 (08:59 PM).
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I think Masuda maybe referring to the national dex... as RS only had it after trading in a non- Hoenn dex mon.

I think the cave in the island will be for either Mewtwo or the Z legendary...
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Now that aurorus' signature move is Freeze dry, i am guessing Tyrantrum also has a signature move related to its ability. "Dragon Bite" or "Dragon Crunch" maybe? or even better "Dragon Jaw"?
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I am thinking that at least one duo will have in-game trades like Petilil and Cottonee in BW/
I liked how the Petilil/Cottonee trade was executed in 5th Gen, you basically were able to get the version-exclusive Grass-types in both versions. I'm hoping they execute more in-game trades like these with version exclusives.
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That's true. Though it does give a letdown to the whole version-exclusive idea, it's nice to get Pokémon like Skrelp and Clauncher together in one game.
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Is it true that EXP is now given on capture as well as defeat with wild pokemon?
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Old September 20th, 2013 (01:25 AM).
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Yeah, though we don't know how much.
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Old September 20th, 2013 (01:50 AM).
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According to this piece of news, it is definitely true. I'm not exactly sure how others feel about this, but I absolutely love it. :) Your Pokémon do spend a lot of their energy on weakening the wild Pokémon, so in my opinion, it does make sense to reward them with experience points for their hard work.
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Old September 20th, 2013 (03:27 AM).
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I sincerely doubt that Masuda's claim that, "all Pokémon are available" means that all Pokémon are available to catch in game. I'm definitely of the opinion that he means that all Pokémon have been programmed into the game and are available to use - I mean, if all Pokémon were available in the game, it would make the PokéTransporter (and perhaps even the Pokémon Bank) seem almost redundant.

I really doubt that you'll be able to capture every Pokémon in this game - for a start, we know that there are version exclusives already (Clauncher, Skrelp, Swirlix, Spritzee, Mewtwo X, Mewtwo Y), so how can what Masuda has said be taken that way at all?
Well I believe it was said that all pokemon will be in X and Y. So that would allow for version exclusives.

I do think we might get 400-500 pokemon in the kalos dex though. Although when you think about it...most pokemon in the 5th gen were available in some way (dream world, dream radar etc) so if it's possible to catch all pokemon between the two versions maybe that's just their way of cutting out the need for so many outside apps, so they can focus on the pokebank.
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Old September 20th, 2013 (06:02 AM).
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Pokemon X and Y also nearly had a voice translator that could tell you what the Pokemon what actually saying. Localisation issues and the fact over 600 Pokemon would have to be accounted for meant the feature was scrapped.
Man, this would've been such a badass feature to have. ;~; I don't know if anyone else managed to catch this though, but it would've been so cool if you could really understand what your Pokemon was saying! Not a huge deal though, but still could've been quite the useful addition. xD;
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Old September 20th, 2013 (07:38 AM).
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Is there any rumors about Clemont being what type specialist? Because if summarized what has been stated in anime he will most likely have Bunnelby at least and propably Dedenne.

Bunnelby is Normal-type and Dedenne in the other hand is Electric/Fairy-typed. It was earlier speculated that Clemont would be either Steel or Electric because he has those Aipom Arm robots and the overall look of his Gym supports this. At this point it would be more likely he'll be Electric-type user because of Dedenne and since Bunnebly doesn't really look like a Pokémon that would turn out to be Normal/Steel-typed.
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