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Old October 17th, 2013 (10:59 AM).
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I was wondering what do people here think of David and Charles Koch?? I do know they are the main Billionaires that are funding the so called "Grass Roots" Tea Party movement, As well are one of the wealthiest people in America. But also there have been much speculation about these two men buying their way into congress and using their excess billions to influence Politicians. I would like to know if what they are doing is "Patriotic" or criminal??
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Old October 17th, 2013 (11:07 AM).
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That's up to you, really. What's patriotic to you? What's criminal?

Personally, I think they're just using the American system to its full potential. Nah, I'm not a fan.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (11:11 AM).
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I'd say they are abusing the faults in the political system to their full advantage. It's people like them who demonstrate why there shouldn't be money in elections. People with more money have more power to persuade our representatives or promote their preferred candidates unfairly.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (11:22 AM).
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Congress and the government is so riddled with corruption that it is nearly impossible to trace that corruption back to a specific person or group. As someone raised in a strictly republican/conservative household, I have found the republican party and the GOP to be some of the most selfish, inconsiderate and childish men and women I have ever seen or spoken to.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (11:32 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Silais:
Congress and the government is so riddled with corruption that it is nearly impossible to trace that corruption back to a specific person or group. As someone raised in a strictly republican/conservative household, I have found the republican party and the GOP to be some of the most selfish, inconsiderate and childish men and women I have ever seen or spoken to.
I feel that you are right it is nearly impossible to trace all that but with all the research that is coming up it always leads back to these two individuals,

Yes I do know there are other's involved as well. I agree with the Majority of GOP and Republican Party to be selfish,inconsiderate and childish, not to mention inconsistent with their sources as well. What I find funny about most of the followers and supporters of The GOP they seem to be for the constitution. yet for only their belief's not others.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (01:14 PM).
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ive never heard of these people...

meh, someone should change their hearts and make them decide to try and help America.
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Old October 17th, 2013 (02:53 PM).
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The problem with political parties... OKAY there are far too many problems, so the problem with them RIGHT NOW is that they existed as groups which various people in the nation COULD fit into depending on issues at the time and the basic properties for EACH party - right now being the Republicans and Democrats - is that they NO LONGER represent what they did originally, nor the people they were meant to, nor are they even opposites anymore. They're just babies throwing temper tantrums.

Democrats were meant to be mid-left wing so that they could represent the left wing as a whole. Now they are low-left wing mid-right wing with no experts for either side. Republicans were supposed to be mid-right wing, for the same reasons, but now they're far-right wing and low-left wing.

In other words, we don't even have any proper left-wing people in office, and the right-wing people in office have too much stuck up their behinds to help each other fix the nation.

The tea party is...well, far right and far left, it just depends on what parts of those you choose from. They're max radical on both wings, which causes the wings to rip off of the body, slowing causing the nation to bleed to death.
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Funny how a Conservative-led court/House scales back campaign finance laws just in time for several hundred million to just up and find its way to GOP candidates all across the country.... GEE I WONDER

Don't like the amount of outside money permeating all our elections? Blame them.
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