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Old October 22nd, 2013 (07:00 AM).
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I don't know why so many people are saying Siebold (the water-type elite 4) is the hardest one. In every walkthrough i have seen people have tearing through him so quickly i couldnt even hear some of the commentary (MunchingOrange is an example). SO, can anyone tell me why he is considered the thoughest?
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (07:03 AM).
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I had a harder time with Drasena. Dragon type was my weakness this time around. Didn't help I had no Dragon/Fairy types in my party. Siebold seemed too easy, normally I have a major difficult task at taking down a Water-type in Elite 4. I think he could have been harder, much harder. They fell short of making him a challenge to me.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (07:07 AM).
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I had a harder time with Drasena. Dragon type was my weakness this time around. Didn't help I had no Dragon/Fairy types in my party. Siebold seemed too easy, normally I have a major difficult task at taking down a Water-type in Elite 4. I think he could have been harder, much harder. They fell short of making him a challenge to me.
Exactly what i mean. People are over killing his pokemon way to easy. He isn't an elite 4 material, from what i saw Valerie was harder than him for some. From my observations, Drasna (the weird, weed-smoking dragon-type pothead) is the hardest one.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (07:17 AM).
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Siebold or Wikistrom are the hardest for me, simply because I couldn't KO Barbacle (spelling?) or Aegislash, and with high attacking stats they can pretty much OTK whatever I have out there. None of them are really over-the top terrible though.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (07:34 AM).
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It's hard to decide which of the four is the strongest considering they were all so weak.

Personally I thought Wikstrom and Malva were pathetic. Pretty sure I one hit KO'd all of their pokemon. I wasn't over levelled either since I turned off exp share. Drasna had a severe ice weakness with two dragon/flying types. Siebold wins as the most difficult only because his Gyarados was slightly awkward and didn't go down in one hit.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (08:19 AM).
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They were all easy, not because of my Pokemon's level.
More like I knew their types before hand, so I assembled a party to conquer them by their weaknesses!
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (08:21 AM).
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They were difficult for me because I had a Greninja, Charizard and a Talonflame on my team.

I can't imagine how it would have been if I took Blaziken too!
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Well, i found him hard for one reason and one reason only: His Gyarados.

If you let that thing set up, man oh man, are you gonna have a hard time.
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Gengar's thunderbolt decimated every single one of his Pokemon for me.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (08:38 AM).
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my first time, i forgot to buy supplies(only had 2 revives, and 5 full restores), and i only had 5 pokemon with me...boy that made this fun =)

haven't had such tough elite 4 battles since my first pokemon game =D

hardest for me was the dragon user
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Well, i found him hard for one reason and one reason only: His Gyarados.

If you let that thing set up, man oh man, are you gonna have a hard time.
I had Malamar out using topsy turvy on gyarados just to mess with his game plan.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (10:34 AM).
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When I battled him in X, he got pretty unlucky. My Haxorus OHKOed his Clawitzer with a critical hit Dragon Claw, then my Houndoom lived his Starmie's Surf with 4 HP after he used Light Screen, and Gyarados used Dragon Dance but my Lapras paralyzed him with Thunderbolt. But in Y he was only annoying because his Clawitzer kept confusing my Roserade with Water Pulse. My Tyrantrum's Quick Claw activated against Gyarados and OHKOed it with Head Smash, even after Intimidate. Drasna didn't have any really powerful attacks other than Noivern OHKOing my Haxorus with Dragon Pulse. Malva only had me worried because of that Chandelure. Wikstrom I kinda went easy on just to see what attacks he had, but he was still pretty simple also.

But yeah, they really should have had five Pokémon this time around, with over 400 Pokémon in the Pokédex there really isn't a solid excuse.
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (11:23 AM).
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Its alot about type matchups, if you got the right moves he will fall down easily.
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He was the easiest one for me as I had two pokémon (Venusaur & Heliolisk) with supereffective STAB moves to destroy him. Wikstrom was the hardest for me. Scizor was really annoying to take down and his Klefki has some irritating moves.
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My Pokémon were overleveled, I had an Electric type and I had already researched his team's movesets beforehand so I didn't have a hard time at all.

In fact, I didn't have a hard time with any real "boss" in this game. Especially those wimpy gym leaders :T

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Old October 22nd, 2013 (12:07 PM). Edited October 22nd, 2013 by TreeKangaroo.
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Malva was pathetic. Valerie would be a better e4 because at the time my doublade didn't know iron head.
Drasna was challenging.

Wikstrom I hate king's shield

Siebold, damn clawitzer.

By the way, Drasna is supposed to be a friendly somewhat old lady. Not a weird weed smoking pothead, genius.
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Fortunately I had a simisage and heliolord for him. My heliolord basically OHKO'd most of his pokemon IIRC.

As for the E4 I had most trouble with, that must've been the dragon one. My pokemon typings at the time were: Dark/Electric-Normal(seriously, why is heliolord electric-normal type, jeez)/Grass/Rock-Fairy/Fire-Flying/Water-Dark
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My pikachu with Light ball just creamed him lol
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Old October 22nd, 2013 (06:55 PM).
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My Raichu with Thunderbolt roasted him.
My Delphox with Flamethrower roasted Wilkstrom.
My Gardevoir with Dazzling Gleam roasted Drasna.

The only one I actually had fun against was Malva's Torkoal and Pyroar since I had no super effective moves against them. I'm thinking of doing a Not-Very-Effective run through the Pokémon League later to spice things up a little.
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I think I took half the E4's Pokémon Trick-or-Treating with Gourgeist. Siebold ate it's bullet seed too. This was one of the easier games for me, however against my team the Fire lady was the toughest as I did not have very many counters for fire (but I was not very weak to it either). I miss the good ol' days when the you coyldn't choose the order of the Elite 4.
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Quote originally posted by greenmoon1996:
I miss the good ol' days when the you coyldn't choose the order of the Elite 4.
I miss the good old days where the Elite 4 took me days to complete because they were either overleveled or kept stomping me, like Steven and Lance used to. God, they took me weeks.
Also 6 Pokémon per trainer should be a must, I mean, they are ELITE.
And it would have been nice if their Pokémon would be roughly 70. With the champion on level 75.
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[Sergeant Howie:] "And you encourage them in this?"

[Lord Summerisle:]"Actively! It's most important to teach new generation born of Summerisle be made aware that here the old gods aren't dead."

[Sergeant Howie:]"And what of the true God? To whose glory churches and monasteries have been built on these islands for generations past? Now what of Him?"

[Lord Summerisle:]"Oh, He's dead. He can't complain. He had his chance and in modern parlance. Blew it."
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[Sergeant Howie:]“He brought you up to be a pagan!”

[Lord Summerisle:]“A heathen, conceivably, but not, I hope, an unenlightened one.”
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Old October 23rd, 2013 (12:00 AM).
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Siebold was the hardest one for me, but that's only because I didn't have any Pokémon on my team that were effective against water besides my Gogoat. What's strange is, if I had to rank the Elite Four from hardest to easiest, the Fire and the Water types would be the more difficult ones for me. Still, I didn't really have too much difficulty with him. I found them all to be a walk in the park - and the champion more-so.
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