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View Poll Results: Which starter in Pokemon F\L
Bulbasaur 27 26.21%
Charmander 51 49.51%
Squirtle 25 24.27%
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Old November 6th, 2013 (06:15 AM).
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Squirtle! I just think its design is awesome. It also does pretty well in game! I can never wait for it to turn into Blastoise!
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From my main playthroughs of FireRed I would always use either Bulbasaur or Charmander, just because it wasn't too hard to pick up a Water type Pokemon later down the road, whereas there were a few less options for the other ones (depending on your version).

Of the three though, my favorite has to be Squirtle. I like its design and would put it on par with Charizard's, but having access to Bite and a bunch of the Ice type moves always was a bonus for me, even if it doesn't have the best stats of the 3.
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Squirtle is my favorite, based on looks. It's cute, small, and chubby; what's not to like? xD Plus, when it finally evolves into Blastoise, it grows two, huge cannons on its back, which is quite awesome! These cannons are made out of metal entirely, so they're quite hard to break. Blastoise can take this pair of cannons in and out of its shell as it pleases—pretty efficient!

In terms of competitive battling, though, my favorite would have to be Charmander. Charizard, Charmandar's final evolutionary form, has got a decent Speed stat—allowing it to outrun a handful of Pokémon and strike the first hit. Not only that, but it's also got an above-average Special Attack. Charizard has a variety of special-based moves in its arsenal, such as Air Slash, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, and Hidden Power. Thanks to its major SP Att stat, it can take quite an advantage of them.
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I don't know which one is the best, they are all special in their own way, but my favourite is Charmander, since at the time I was first getting into Pokémon, I was obsessed with dragons so I loved Charizard straight away.
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There is no "best" starter. The right question would be "what's your favourite".
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My absol-lute favourite starter would have to be squirtle. I will always have a sport in my heart for the blue turtle and it's evolutions.
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Old November 9th, 2013 (03:19 AM). Edited November 16th, 2013 by RimasLT.
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Bulbasaur - 1. My first pokemon ever in games. 2.Adorable design. 3. Powerful partner. 4. Do not like Charmander ( never liked him ( biggest enemy for my Venusaur ) 5. Squirtle I just do not like this turtle either.
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Don't ask, It's charmander
Because it evolves to Charizard. (I know charmeleon first lol)
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Charmander, no idea why. I just always seemed to pick him.
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Bulbasaur, because it evolves into Venusaur!

When I was younger I would have said Charmander hands down. But now that I'm older I realize looks aren't everything (except when concerning newer gen pokemon) I don't think there's any other grass pokemon that can much up to venusaur. At least not in Gen 1, while for fire and water you have ninetails and gyarados
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I love Bulbasaur. It's really cute. And it's final evo Venusaur is really awesome. One of the strongest grass starters imo.
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Although I always choose Charmander, it's because he's the most useful to me.

They're all my favourites, by far the best starters created!
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Well too much review from peoples. Charmander and Bulbasaur got too much comments as of now.

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Squirtle is my favorite, based on looks. It's cute, small, and chubby; what's not to like? xD Plus, when it finally evolves into Blastoise, it grows two, huge cannons on its back, which is quite awesome! These cannons are made out of metal entirely, so they're quite hard to break. Blastoise can take this pair of cannons in and out of its shell as it pleases—pretty efficient!

In terms of competitive battling, though, my favorite would have to be Charmander. Charizard, Charmandar's final evolutionary form, has got a decent Speed stat—allowing it to outrun a handful of Pokémon and strike the first hit. Not only that, but it's also got an above-average Special Attack. Charizard has a variety of special-based moves in its arsenal, such as Air Slash, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, and Hidden Power. Thanks to its major SP Att stat, it can take quite an advantage of them.
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Well Squirtle is Pokemon with cuteness. And it looks great when in becomes Blastiose.

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From my main playthroughs of FireRed I would always use either Bulbasaur or Charmander, just because it wasn't too hard to pick up a Water type Pokemon later down the road, whereas there were a few less options for the other ones (depending on your version).

Of the three though, my favorite has to be Squirtle. I like its design and would put it on par with Charizard's, but having access to Bite and a bunch of the Ice type moves always was a bonus for me, even if it doesn't have the best stats of the 3.
Yeah many people choose Charizard and Bulbasaur. Well Squirtle can beat other in cuteness maybe. well all are cute though.

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Bulbasaur, because it evolves into Venusaur!

When I was younger I would have said Charmander hands down. But now that I'm older I realize looks aren't everything (except when concerning newer gen pokemon) I don't think there's any other grass pokemon that can much up to venusaur. At least not in Gen 1, while for fire and water you have ninetails and gyarados
Well Venusaur & Blastoise has really great design as 3rd evolved form.

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I don't know which one is the best, they are all special in their own way, but my favourite is Charmander, since at the time I was first getting into Pokémon, I was obsessed with dragons so I loved Charizard straight away.
Yeah Charizard is a great strong & Enough Powerful to be handy in League but, I really don't like the design of Charizard much.

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Although I always choose Charmander, it's because he's the most useful to me.

They're all my favourites, by far the best starters created!
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Because it evolves to Charizard. (I know charmeleon first lol)
Yeah, strong and powerful.
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To me, these 3 starters are the best of any starters in the game in terms of how much i like them It's hard to pick a favourite but i;d probably say Squirtle as Blastoise is my favourite pokemon and i love water types, however it's a tough choice
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Quote originally posted by TheRestlessSoul:
To me, these 3 starters are the best of any starters in the game in terms of how much i like them It's hard to pick a favourite but i;d probably say Squirtle as Blastoise is my favourite pokemon and i love water types, however it's a tough choice
Yeah you are right its a hard choice. Though there isn't any best. all are same actually. all are great.
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Charmander. #1 in my team, #1 in my heart.
Have a soft spot for squirtle though because he was my first starter EVER.

Bulbasaur I just feel sorry for because I've always neglected him.
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1 Bulbasaur

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I love all three for their basic forms. And their second forms. But when it comes right down to it, it's only the final form that matters, because that's what you end up with after everything. So I voted Charmander. Charizard is the only one that looks good. Blastoise is... tolerable. Venusaur is just... I have no words. They made it hideous. I love Bulbasaur either as much or more than Charmander, and Ivysaur is pretty decent even though I prefer Charmeleon and Wartortle. But overall, Charizard > Blastoise >>>>>>>> Venusaur. & It's sad.
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Well it really depends on what you want to do. I wouldn't pick Blastoise or any of the Water type starters because there are a ton of good, better Water types out there. So its really between Charizard and Venasaur. Now it is very important to have a balanced team at all times to fend off all your weaknesses and I always build that out of a Fire type, a Water type, a Grass or Electric type, a Flying type,a Phychic type, and personally a Ground type. So lets look at those 2 Pokemons Stats and Movepools.

Venasaur

Stats

HP - 80
Attack - 82
Defence - 83
Special Attack - 100
Special Defence - 100
Speed - 80

Movepool
Start - Tackle
4 - Growl
7 - Leech Seed
10 - Vine Whip
15 - Sleep Powder
15 - Poison Powder
Evolves Into Ivysaur
22 - Razor Leaf
29 - Sweet Scent
Evolves Into Venusaur
38 - Growth
47 - Synthesis
56 - Solar Beam

Ability - Overgrow - If this Pokemon is bellow 1/3 of its Hp, the Power of Grass type moves will increase by 1.5x

My Venasaurs moveset is going to have
Synthisis
Solar Beam
Sleep Powder
Razor Leaf

Now lets look at Charizard

Stats
HP - 78
Attack - 84
Defence - 78
Special Attack - 109
Special Defence - 85
Speed - 100

Movepool
Start - Scratch
Start - Growl
7 - Ember
13 - Metal Claw
Evolves Into Chameleon
20 - Smokescreen
27 - Flamethrower
Evolves into Charizard
36 - Wing Attack
44 - Slash
54 - Dragon Rage
64 - Fire Spin

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Blaze - If this Pokemon is bellow 1/3 of its Hp, the Power of Fire type moves will increase by 1.5x

Recomended Moveset
Flamethrower
Sunny Day or Fire Blast
Wing Attack
Steel Wing


Venusaur is the best in the fact that it can get through alot of the early Gyms easily. I think Charizard is the best of the two. It was a close call because Venasaur is very good. But I think why Venasaur lost was because it has kind of a shallow movepool.

Dont be discouraged on using Blastoise, Its just I think there are better Water types out there. Namely Gyrados, Lapras, and Vaporeon.
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Bulbasaur for no reason whatsoever. Always my choice.
I would have picked him in X, too, but chose Charmander to make up for my froakie's grass weakness.
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I do have a liking for Grass types over the others, so Bulbasaur it is. It's very effective against Brock in the first gym.
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I do have a liking for Grass types over the others, so Bulbasaur it is. It's very effective against Brock in the first gym.
yeah but get useless after 3rd gym and some others. Not comfortable for league though.

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Bulbasaur for no reason whatsoever. Always my choice.
I would have picked him in X, too, but chose Charmander to make up for my froakie's grass weakness.
What X ? You better talk about it in X & Y forum And yeah bulbasaur looks cute. And when it goes to Venusaur it goes more cooler then before.

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Well it really depends on what you want to do. I wouldn't pick Blastoise or any of the Water type starters because there are a ton of good, better Water types out there. So its really between Charizard and Venasaur. Now it is very important to have a balanced team at all times to fend of all your weaknesses and I always build that out of a Fire type, a Water type, a Grass or Electric type, a Flying type,a Phychic type, and personally a Ground type. So lets look at those 2 Pokemons Stats and Movepools.

Venasaur

Stats

HP - 80
Attack - 82
Defence - 83
Special Attack - 100
Special Defence - 100
Speed - 80

Movepool
Start - Tackle
4 - Growl
7 - Leech Seed
10 - Vine Whip
15 - Sleep Powder
15 - Poison Powder
Evolves Into Ivysaur
22 - Razor Leaf
29 - Sweet Scent
Evolves Into Venusaur
38 - Growth
47 - Synthesis
56 - Solar Beam

Ability - Overgrow - If this Pokemon is bellow 1/3 of its Hp, the Power of Grass type moves will increase by 1.5x

My Venasaurs moveset is going to have
Synthisis
Solar Beam
Sleep Powder
Razor Leaf

Now lets look at Charizard

Stats
HP - 78
Attack - 84
Defence - 78
Special Attack - 109
Special Defence - 85
Speed - 100

Movepool
Start - Scratch
Start - Growl
7 - Ember
13 - Metal Claw
Evolves Into Chameleon
20 - Smokescreen
27 - Flamethrower
Evolves into Charizard
36 - Wing Attack
44 - Slash
54 - Dragon Rage
64 - Fire Spin

Ability
Blaze - If this Pokemon is bellow 1/3 of its Hp, the Power of Fire type moves will increase by 1.5x

Recomended Moveset
Flamethrower
Sunny Day or Fire Blast
Wing Attack
Steel Wing


Venusaur is the best in the fact that it can get through alot of the early Gyms easily. I think Charizard is the best of the two. It was a close call because Venasaur is very good. But I think why Venasaur lost was because it has kind of a shallow movepool.

Dont be discouraged on using Blastoise, Its just I think there are better Water types out there. Namely Gyrados, Lapras, and Vaporeon.
You listed great things. And look like you had a great Knowledge about GEN 3 and Charizard is best in my way. Venusar doesn't show a great performance in League. And Blastoise is a little comfortable but gives sometime lose to you. Charizard is great strong but hard to raise Pokemon.
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Squirtle suits my style but I know Sunny Day Zard to be boss
Really ? but what is sunny day zard ? What are you trying to say ? Do you meant by Charmander is best ?
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I always look at the fully evolved forms, because that's what you'll be playing with the longest time. I like Charmander and Charmeleon, but I just don't like that Fire Dragon that ain't even a dragon I just don't like it, don't really know why. When I picked Charmander once, I leveled it unto level 36, then I put it in Box 13 and never looked at it again. And you can pick up Moltres later, which has the same typing and is more powerful (and better looking too). Venusaur and Blastoise are both awesome, but I think I like Blastoise better.
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