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Old November 30th, 2013, 02:00 PM
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Imagine, in years from now Pokemon X/Y/X ROMS will be accessible (hopefully) for ROM hacking.
I just wanted to point out how awesome this could be, people's imaginations would be no longer restricted to sprites and tiles but entire 3D worlds.
I suppose I made this thread to see if anybody knew why this wouldn't happen or what could go wrong. So if you have any details on 3DS ROM hacking, please share.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 02:15 PM
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Yeah, honestly it would be more impossible than possible ( especially when it comes to changing the pokemon's looks ). Yeah, I guess if you want to spend hours on end remodeling, shading, texturing, and coloring the pokemon then be my guest... oh and let's not forget they are animated. Same with the houses, trees, and maps. It would be incredibly hard to do... it might even be easier to just make your own game instead lol
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Old November 30th, 2013, 02:57 PM
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Hm, maybe. GBA hacks were possible, and so were DS hacks. If people put time and effort into it, I think 3DS Pokémon games could be hacked as well. Since this is related to ROM hacking, by the way, I'm moving your thread over to Emulation & ROM Hacking.

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Old November 30th, 2013, 04:27 PM
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I agree and disagree with some points you made, while animating entire new Pokemon, shading and coloring them would be very difficult, modifying or building new architecture wouldn't be that difficult. Over time, popular games (take SM64 for example) the fan base was able to implement entire new maps and story lines of their own design, why could this not apply to Pokemon X/Y/Z?
If this were to come true, within the next decade we should see some very interesting fan created worlds.

I apologize for posting this thread in the wrong section, I'm new to PC. :]
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Old November 30th, 2013, 04:31 PM
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Maybe, but there's a reason that GBA hacking is popular. Everything is just 2D tiles and sprites, which is very easy to modify. If you want to make 3D models for everything it's just going to be a lot harder and require more skill.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 06:42 PM
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I honestly don't know.

I'm not really updated when it comes to DS hacking, but I think they're still in the basics. Most tools created are just simple, like modifying wild Pokemon, modifying trainer's Pokemon, those kinds of stuff. So I think X/Y hacking wouldn't be until the future, when DS hacking progress is now equivalent to the GBA hacking progress now. It would be really amazing, though, if one were to make X/Y hackable, but it's going to be hard work. X/Y hacking would most likely start when the next handheld console releases, but I'm not too sure.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 06:57 PM
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Yes maybe on GBA because It is possible if it's made by a giant team of hacking experts or just one guy who has all knowledge of hacking and has a friend to make sprites for him because he's too lazy...... But today I saw a poll on WesleyFG's site about what kind of hack will he make there were so many votes on a remake of Pokemon X and Y...... I was like "O_O dats intense."...... But I hope someone does make a remake of X and Y on GBA cuz it'll be great. :D

But I'll stay on topic...... Maybe it is possible to hack the 6th Generation games because I saw a website like a month ago that has Gen 5 hacking tools I was like "wat you can make Gen 5 hacks?!" so maybe it really is possible to make 6th Gen hacking tools..... I would really like that. (Oh there's a 3DS emulator now. :D) (But I don't know what it looks like lol )
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Old November 30th, 2013, 07:18 PM
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True, fans will probably need entire teams of people to create the game they desire, but GBA hacking isn't going anywhere for those who want to independently create games.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 07:37 PM
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To my knowledge, there are no X/Y/Z ROMS. Sorry to disappoint,
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Old November 30th, 2013, 07:58 PM
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No, there isn't. 3DS hacking won't be for a long time, although people are trying to get it working. There are flashcards available for 3DS games, but you have to be on older firmwares (Specifically, between 4.1 and 4.5 U/E/J) for it to work properly.

Oh and there are rom dumps of X and Y, but they're almost useless, not to mention they don't actually work because the game and the save data are all stored on the same chip, so if you dump a rom, you're also dumping the save data. Since traditional games use multiple chips for rom and save data, they're compatible.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 02:46 PM
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I agree and disagree with some points you made, while animating entire new Pokemon, shading and coloring them would be very difficult, modifying or building new architecture wouldn't be that difficult. Over time, popular games (take SM64 for example) the fan base was able to implement entire new maps and story lines of their own design, why could this not apply to Pokemon X/Y/Z?
If this were to come true, within the next decade we should see some very interesting fan created worlds.

I apologize for posting this thread in the wrong section, I'm new to PC. :]
Well, I come from a background in animation. It's easier to create 2-Dimensional animations because it's just frame by frame. But it's totally different when animating for 3D celled objects. Usually when animating for such objects, there are joints that you have to consider, each item is detailed with specific textures, and the overall model is just a bunch of polygons that were morphed and connected via the invisible joints and sections. It's a lot more time consuming than one would think... that's why nobody has officially had the time to develop successful 3D pokemon fan games besides maybe Pokemon Generations.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 02:51 PM
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there is even a pokemon x or y rom ? idk but if in the future comes that I WILL BE DOIN SOME SIK **** ! (thuglifeenglish)
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 04:44 AM
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Everything is possible. It depends on how much time and effort you are willing to put into something. For example, it took a while to get simple things like text hacking done on Diamond & Pearl, today we are able to write our own scripts and even have some decent tools to design new maps etc.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 12:24 PM
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I don't see it happening and really catching on for another five years, maybe more. 3D hacking as opposed to 2D hacking is a HUGE difference. An XY rom? I could see it coming out in a year once ebverything sorts out.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Well, i think it can be done but not anytime soon. We're SO outdated i mean heck, we still haven't perfected hacking Gen IV and V and we're still stuck with Gen III. I mean we can hack Gen IV and V but it's 2013! Gen IV was 6 years ago and we're still on Gen III. Although, to tell you the truth i'm not complaining about it since i am one of those people who hacks Gen III more (you can blame my crappy pc.) But still you'll have to be VERY patient if a X and Y ROM (and emulator) comes out and i think that by the time that happens, any average pc would run Desmume perfectly fine and people might start hacking Gen IV/V as for X and Y....like i said you would had to be patient......and i mean very patient.
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It won't be impossible, just a long time in the making. We don't even have all the data about how everything works in X/Y yet to make decent guides on raising Pokemon competitively, because we can't decrypt it let alone emulate it in any way at all (there are ROMs of X/Y by the way, 3DS games can be dumped. They just can't be emulated... especially X/Y. Don't ask me where they are, I have no clue). After those two happen, then we can even start to think about hacking. But even then we'd still be looking at an entirely new challenge to discover completely.

We don't quite know everything about Gen 3 yet and Gen 5 tools haven't been around for extremely long, for a grasp of how long things will take on this one.
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Old May 24th, 2014, 05:48 PM
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Well maybe, maybe not. The best option would be to go to coolrom get the gba emulator and look for pokemon x and y in 2d sprite form for the game boy, or at least a pokemon game with 5th gen pokemon in it.
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Most likely possible given enough time yeah, but what you want to do would vary in difficulty considerably depending on your scope and what tools we have available in the future. Texture editing is probably not too hard once we get a hang of the graphics format and how to convert images to and from a format suitable for the game; animation editing would be more complex but doable if you're skilled enough in 3D animation; while adding new models for Pokemon or player outfits would be a tricky job to ensure they're properly rigged to the existing bones or creating brand new rigs and animations for Pokemon.
Though, it's probably easier to understand the concept compared to dealing with the sprites-animated-with-3D-graphics used for most things in Black and White.
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I'm going to put this short, but the only reason nobody wants to do DS Hacks, and will probably not do X/Y hacks is because all the maps are in 3D, meaning that the only hacks that will actually surface will require a lot of 3D modeling experience, which simply does not come easily. GBA Hacking will probably one of the last hacking scenes accessible to all kinds of people due to it's ease of editing.
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Hey guys, hello everyone... I am new on the community and I wanted to ask a question. I wish to play pokemon x or y on Pc but all links I found on google appeared fake and contained passwords and Surveys........ Is there any place where I can download even any one of the game's rom without any password or survey???????
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Actually, its not available yet, my friend tell me that there is 3ds emulator, but it still in DEV. So, the point is X / Y is currently not available for computer.
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I'm going to put this short, but the only reason nobody wants to do DS Hacks, and will probably not do X/Y hacks is because all the maps are in 3D, meaning that the only hacks that will actually surface will require a lot of 3D modeling experience, which simply does not come easily. GBA Hacking will probably one of the last hacking scenes accessible to all kinds of people due to it's ease of editing.
Loads of people make Smash Bros hacks and mods for all sorts of PC games though. While, yes some of those titles are deliberately designed to make it easier for players to add their own custom content, I think there's plenty of room for varying degrees of small 'mods' ala Smash Bros - people can easily edit textures, replace sounds, edit animations with a decent amount of understanding and even create new meshes for clothes (or just edit existing models) due to the nature of how 3D graphics work; once we have the understanding of how the games' file formats work.
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Old May 29th, 2014, 01:23 PM
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Loads of people make Smash Bros hacks and mods for all sorts of PC games though. While, yes some of those titles are deliberately designed to make it easier for players to add their own custom content, I think there's plenty of room for varying degrees of small 'mods' ala Smash Bros - people can easily edit textures, replace sounds, edit animations with a decent amount of understanding and even create new meshes for clothes (or just edit existing models) due to the nature of how 3D graphics work; once we have the understanding of how the games' file formats work.
It's not so much the character modification that's an issue, but the maps themselves. Creating a completely unique hack would require one to model out an entire region, which will require a lot of time, patience, and skill. But yes, there are the kinds of people that can and will do those kinds of modifications eventually, just not for a while.
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Old May 31st, 2014, 07:17 AM
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Right now it's not possible
but in the future I'm sure someone will try and hack it
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the only things that may pop up for XY is wild editors, text editors, legendary event editors, starter editors, and maybe script editors...
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