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Old February 5th, 2014, 09:46 PM
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SOCHI, Russia — At the bottom of a steep muddy path to a fetid swamp, a rudimentary plywood-and-posterboard kennel looked like the last place anyone who cares about dogs would want to keep one.

But for the 14 formerly stray dogs bouncing and barking in the kennel Tuesday, these makeshift quarters represent salvation. The city of Sochi has hired a pest-control company to kill homeless animals by the hundreds, all in an effort to clean up the streets in advance of the Winter Games.

So Vlada Provotorova, a local dentist and a diehard dog person, recruited some friends and went on the ultimate rescue mission. “I felt like I had to do something,’’ said Provotorova as she fended off a playful leap from Katya, a German shepherd mix she picked up a few weeks ago.

She and her friends have been collecting all the strays they can and placing them in any shelter they can find, like the one in the swamp, in a space lent to them by a dog-friendly couple who breed mosquito fish in marshy pools.

It’s a losing battle, and Provotorova and her friends know it.

She estimates that between 5,000 and 7,000 dogs have been killed in the current cull, a figure no one in City Hall was available to confirm or deny. She and her friends have rescued “no more than 100.”

“It makes me sad,” she said.

Vlada Provotorova and friends place strays wherever they can.
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Vlada Provotorova and friends place strays wherever they can.

Mass killings of strays may seem inhumane for Americans, who live in a world where a celebrity like NFL quarterback Michael Vick served prison time for his involvement in the killing of dogs. But the practice is not uncommon in Russia, despite pleas by activists that authorities find more humane ways of handling strays. Sochi city officials had planned to kill 2,000 dogs last summer, but an international outcry caused the city to drop the plan.

But with the Olympics coming up fast, the city hired Basya Service to engage in the “catching and disposal” of city dogs, according to a copy of the contract acquired by the Globe.

Alexei Sorokin, the director of the company, told the Associated Press that thousands of strays roam the streets of Sochi, “biting children,” and that one stray walked in on a rehearsal of Friday’s Olympic opening ceremony.

“God forbid something like this happens at the actual opening ceremony,” Sorokin told the agency. “This will be a disgrace for the whole country.”

Translation: It would be a disgrace for President Vladimir Putin, who has staked his prestige on these Games improving Russia’s image as a modern economic power. So Sorokin got the go-ahead to act.

But one international animal protection group said the killing of dogs would backfire.


A Winter Games worker led a dog off a snowboarding course during a training session Tuesday in Sochi.

“Killing street dogs, whether through poisoning, shooting or other means, is not only inhumane, but ineffective,” said Andrew Rowan, chief executive officer of Humane Society International, which advocates mass sterilization, vaccination, and community education to solve the problem of strays. “While Russia has the world’s attention with the Olympics around the corner, the current dog-killing program will only rouse an international outcry and taint the image of the country.”

Sorokin did not tell the Associated Press how the dogs are killed.

But Provotorova said she received pictures of dogs that had been shot with poisoned darts and taken away in trucks. One of the macabre images depicted a yellow, green, and magenta dart that she said had been used. It was impossible to confirm the authenticity of the photos, which she said had come from a Sochi resident who had witnessed the killings.

The 14 dogs she showed on Tuesday were all rescued from the train station in Sochi.

“We carry the ones we can — some of them are so big they won’t budge,’’ said Provotorova, who has received help from about 30 volunteers. “We sterilize them, we vaccinate them, we rid them of fleas, and we try to find a place to put them.”

Provotorova has adopted a labrador mix, Charlie, to join her two German spitzes.

Eventually she wants to take the other dogs north to Moscow, where she has yet to find permanent shelter. So she waits, with the animals she has saved. Provotorova said she and a few friends plan to go out in the coming days to try to collect more strays.

Authorities last summer pledged to give up the practice of killing dogs and build animal shelters for strays instead. But Provotorova said there was no evidence that any shelters were built. She is wary of any promises Sochi’s leaders might make now.

“After the Olympics,” she said, “They won’t do anything about it.”
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What are your thoughts? It should be illegal to kill hundreds of animals, it's a sad thing going on imo.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 11:46 PM
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I think killing hundreds of animals is disgrace to my country of Russia and it makes my country look bad. I love all life and all life should deserve to live or at least killed painlessly when you need to eat. This meaningless killing not only problem in Russia but other Asian countries too. This should be illegal and these stray dogs don't no need to be killed. Just take them somewhere else for Olympics.
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Old February 6th, 2014, 04:58 PM
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I don't like it because I have a soft spot for animals I mean, they don't have to shoot the poor things, can't they just take them to the pound or something?
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Old February 7th, 2014, 04:10 PM
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When it comes to animals, especially dogs, I have an extreme soft spot for them even more so than human beings. To me, it's not about the principle of physically killing them, but rather how these events are apparently more important to people than the situation these homeless dogs are living. Dogs are just as much living beings as we are except for their language, but that doesn't mean we can mindlessly kill them for the sake of "cleaning the streets."
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Old February 7th, 2014, 06:22 PM
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Thats the most cruel thing one can do with animals. This is total ridiculous.
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Dogs ( and wolves ) have been our best friends from almost the very start.
They have been valuable companions, to the point where they helped us not extinct in the early ages of hunting for food. Even later, they proved to be invaluable assets for us.
Today, even with all the technological advances, dogs are still employed for many purposes. They can even sniff cancer cells and thus, are able to tell if a person has cancer, from level 0. Nothing else can do that.
The story above is proof that there are people among us that are totally ignorant, disrespectful towards the lives of other beings, ready to do anything for their own gain, be it money or reputation or whatever. That's outrageous.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 08:15 AM
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Dogs ( and wolves ) have been our best friends from almost the very start.
They have been valuable companions, to the point where they helped us not extinct in the early ages of hunting for food. Even later, they proved to be invaluable assets for us.
Today, even with all the technological advances, dogs are still employed for many purposes. They can even sniff cancer cells and thus, are able to tell if a person has cancer, from level 0. Nothing else can do that.
The story above is proof that there are people among us that are totally ignorant, disrespectful towards the lives of other beings, ready to do anything for their own gain, be it money or reputation or whatever. That's outrageous.
Humans are greedy creatures. We know what we want and use whatever method it is to obtain it. In terms of thinking human beings are ignorant or disrespectful towards other lives, I believe that to a certain degree, but in regards to this situation, if someone who has an immense amount of authority and wants something done, it will be delivered. It's unfortunate that these dogs had to be the target of such an event.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 08:23 PM
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Dogs ( and wolves ) have been our best friends from almost the very start.
They have been valuable companions, to the point where they helped us not extinct in the early ages of hunting for food. Even later, they proved to be invaluable assets for us.
Today, even with all the technological advances, dogs are still employed for many purposes. They can even sniff cancer cells and thus, are able to tell if a person has cancer, from level 0. Nothing else can do that.
The story above is proof that there are people among us that are totally ignorant, disrespectful towards the lives of other beings, ready to do anything for their own gain, be it money or reputation or whatever. That's outrageous.
The sad part about that though is that many people think that animals should only be kept around if they benefit us in some way. They prioritize their own interests over the animals'. I feel that even if dogs couldn't detect drugs or bombs or illnesses, and even if they couldn't save lives, they still have the right to be alive too. Dogs are here because man bred wild canines for generations. They didn't ask to exist but now they do and they're treated like garbage.

I heard that a US Olympian rescued four puppies from Sochi and he's trying to get them flown to the US. While four isn't very much compared to the huge amounts of stray dogs, it's a world of a difference for those puppies and it makes me happy that there are people out there who care.
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We seemed to have skipped over the at home evil that is PeTA. Over 90% of the animals they 'save' are put down. No reason, no need for criteria, no nothing. While I feel some slight sympathy for other countries, I can't help but feel upset that people tend to forget that this stuff is happening in their own backyard, yet they forget that fact and decry other countries for doing less than 1% of what we've doing since the 80's. Don't go looking for battles overseas when you have one in your own home. Oh, and just in case you missed it, I think putting animals down without a cause is a tad unjust, koffi~
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I didn't like this year's olympics for two reasons- one - what they did with stray dogs that did nothing to them but exsisted- and what they did to people around the place where the olympics were. I don't support what they did with those poor dogs- after all humans were responsible for them ending up in the streets in the first place - and I don't like what they did with people either - they forcefully removed them from houses and destroyed their homes for the purpose of the olympics - it's just so wrong
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