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Old February 7th, 2014 (03:56 PM).
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I'm setting up a new team and my first team Is a great success thanks to the you lot here. I'd like to include a special lucario and my 6 iv shiny latias or deoxys. Latias is the only battle ready one at the moment with a speed sp attack ev spread calm mind, d pulse, roost and physhock.

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Old February 7th, 2014 (06:03 PM).
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Special Lucario is only good in its Mega form, as Adaptability powers up Aura Sphere and Flash Cannon to incredible levels:
-Nasty Plot
-Aura Sphere
-Flash Cannon
-Dark Pulse/Shadow Ball/Vacuum Wave
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Lucarionite
Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

Other teammates would be appreciated as well.
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Old February 8th, 2014 (12:57 PM).
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I was thinking of including a rotom wash (resto chesto) hydro pump, volt switch, willow wisp and??

and a infernape
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Old February 8th, 2014 (02:35 PM).
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The Chesto-Rest Rotom should look like this:

-Rotom Wash w/Chesto Berry
Nature: Bold
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
Moves: Hydro Pump, Volt Switch/Thunderbolt, Will-o-Wisp, Rest
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Old February 8th, 2014 (03:23 PM).
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Oh of course that was a huge derp by me for got the rest part of resto chesto
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Old February 8th, 2014 (03:40 PM).
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And if you wanna use Infernape:

-Infernape w/Life Orb
Nature: Hasty/Naive
Ability: Iron Fist is preferred, but may not be easy to get
EVs: 180 Attack, 76 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed
Moves: Overheat/Fire Blast, Close Combat, Thunder Punch, Hidden Power Ice/Mach Punch

or

-Infernape w/Choice Band or Life Orb
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Iron Fist/Blaze
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
Moves: Flare Blitz, Close Combat, Thunder Punch, U-Turn/Mach Punch

And maybe throw something anti-Fairy onto the team? Was there anything else you wanted to use?
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Old February 8th, 2014 (03:59 PM).
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The special mega lucario does a bit of anti fairy with flash cannon. I'm actually trying to get a marvel scale extreme speed dragonite. Either that or a garchomp with poison jab or my landorus
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Quote originally posted by Tal Skirata:
The special mega lucario does a bit of anti fairy with flash cannon. I'm actually trying to get a marvel scale extreme speed dragonite. Either that or a garchomp with poison jab or my landorus
Poison Jab Garchomp is not worth it. Proof:
-STAB Earthquake: 100 x 1.5 = 150
-unSTABed supereffective Poison Jab: 80 x 2 = 160

There isn't much of a difference here. And how is Landorus anti-Fairy?
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Old February 8th, 2014 (04:54 PM).
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And how is Landorus anti-Fairy?
I think he was just listing other possible team members, not saying that Lando is anti-Fairy.
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Old February 8th, 2014 (07:49 PM).
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Just saying, but a special-based Mega Lucario is not really worth it. Close Combat has a whopping 240 base power because of Adaptability. You don't want to waste that, so I recommend a mixed set.
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Quote originally posted by Karzahni:
Just saying, but a special-based Mega Lucario is not really worth it. Close Combat has a whopping 240 base power because of Adaptability. You don't want to waste that, so I recommend a mixed set.
Specially-based Mega Lucario is viable in its own right. Both physically-based Lucario and specially-based Lucario have different checks and counters, so this gives Lucario a degree of unpredictability.
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Old February 8th, 2014 (08:22 PM).
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Oh indeed. More of a personal preference, and mixed Lucario is one of the best things, imho.
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Old February 9th, 2014 (04:48 AM).
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Yeah I was just adding lando as a possible team member not a a anti-fairy.
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Old February 17th, 2014 (12:07 PM).
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I had the thought of maybe using a typlosion as a anti trevenant using incinerate and extrasensory
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Old February 17th, 2014 (12:15 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Tal Skirata:
I had the thought of maybe using a typlosion as a anti trevenant using incinerate and extrasensory
Not worth it. Incinerate is still weak. You're still better off using Knock Off with another Pokemon to hit Trevenant super effectively and get rid of its Berry. While the move is weak as well, it gets stronger if the opponent has an item. A lot of Pokemon learn Knock Off, thanks to the Black 2/White 2 move tutor.

Infiltrator users like Noivern also bypass Trevenant's Substitutes, if it uses the move. Sound move users like Exploud, Mega Gardevoir and Sylveon do that as well.
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