Since when is Smogon 'disgusting', and pkmncommunity so exalted?
I'm pretty sure Smogon's main focus is competitive battling while pkmncommunity's is anime. Unless pokemon like Phione completely steal the show, explaining your inexplicable angst towards entertaining the concept of allowing a pokemon with one of the worst movepools ever and base stats totalling 480 into a battle. (Quick comparison: Tyranitar, Metagross, Salamence, and Garchomp, all allowed, have stats totaling 600, most starters have 530, the Eevees have 525, and even Porygon2 caps at 515).
That's not to say stats are everything, but given its awful learnset, you should be more inclined to ban something like Tyranitar.
Also, you shouldn't assume that just because someone isn't saying anything they approve of your argument by default. Why, all of a sudden, is it just 3 users who want legends to be included? Do you know everyone else's stance on this issue since the vote you took eons ago? I glanced back after the discussion, by the way, and it seemed like you were mostly goading everyone else to agreeing with you, with the temptation of candy and social acceptance. Basically it was a small group of people (as a quick recollection of the argument I read weeks ago I'd put the number at 3, Ichida, Scyther, Ichaste) and one or two tag-a-longs (who were probably no-shows anyway) going along with what you said.
That's excluding a few late entrants who had no say whatsoever in the rules, not wanting to sift through a few hundred posts for any relevant point
If you had any logic, you could make a logic sandwhich but unfortunately, your picnic will be one logic sandwhich short of...a picnic.
Right here, right
Since when is Smogon 'disgusting', and pkmncommunity so exalted?
I'm pretty sure Smogon's main focus is competitive battling while pkmncommunity's is anime. Unless pokemon like Phione completely steal the show, explaining your inexplicable angst towards entertaining the concept of allowing a pokemon with one of the worst movepools ever and base stats totalling 480 into a battle. (Quick comparison: Tyranitar, Metagross, Salamence, and Garchomp, all allowed, have stats totaling 600, most starters have 530, the Eevees have 525, and even Porygon2 caps at 515).
That's not to say stats are everything, but given its awful learnset, you should be more inclined to ban something like Tyranitar. You know all these standards like Blissey everyone has on their team? How is it any worse that everyone would have, say, Jirachi too? A great wishpasser, a pain to hit with Uturn, but setup fodder in every meaning of the word and a sitting duck late game. No mind, its sterling counter Gyarados should still be allowed on the merits of being catchable in game. The dude can tear through entire teams and menace with name alone, but the one that needs its teammates to survive and is crippled if left by itself is broken.
Let me rephrase: legendaries are not overpowered by default. By which I mean, how many of you would ever risk bringing out Calmcune anymore with stuff like PZ and Heracross that can go manic on it before forcing it to rest and become helpless?
Whereas this gen, Slowbro does the same thing better with Slack Off. If he purified north winds though, nobody would use him. Shame.
Also, you shouldn't assume that just because someone isn't saying anything they approve of your argument by default. Why, all of a sudden, is it just 3 users who want legends to be included? Do you know everyone else's stance on this issue since the vote you took eons ago? I glanced back after the discussion, by the way, and it seemed like you were mostly goading everyone else to agreeing with you, with the temptation of candy and social acceptance. Basically it was a small group of people (as a quick recollection of the argument I read weeks ago I'd put the number at 3, Ichida, Scyther, Ichaste) and one or two tag-a-longs (who were probably no-shows anyway) going along with what you said.
That's excluding a few late entrants who had no say whatsoever in the rules, not wanting to sift through a few hundred posts in the off chance anything immediately relevant to the tournament was said.
If you had any logic, you could make a logic sandwhich but unfortunately, your picnic will be one logic sandwhich short of...a picnic.
Right here, right now, I say we poll to see if legends should be allowed. Note that legends do not include 'ubers'.
If Alakazam would do the honors of attaching a poll to his original post...
