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Should women be allowed to go topless in public?

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Dawn

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I always found it strange why a man can go topless in public but a woman cannot.

I remember being told it is because a female's topless body is sexually attractive to men and society wants to mitigate this in public so children and such aren't offended.

Well woman can also be sexually attracted to a man's topless body so that logic seems moot to me.

It's not moot. It just exposes a double standard. I mean... considering guys have breasts too if anything nobody should be walking around topless according to the logic.

One could say girls find a guy's chest attractive for a different reason than a guy find's a girl's chest attractive and that's why...

But... Meh...

Yes, also, I think everyone should have the right to go out naked.
That would be what I would call trolling real life.

O god. Guys pants off='s exposure of male sex organs. Girls shirts off does not = exposure of female sex organs. Sure, breasts are considered reproductive organs

Fatal contradiction encountered.

So breastfeeding them at a younger age is just fine? I'm not disagreeing with your point, but I don't see what difference it makes when many kids start off getting fed from breasts. Plus, frankly, depending on gender, they will wind up having them or seeing them at some point anyway. And it's not like they'll induce nightmares or psychological issues the way exposing them to, say, Gears of War would.

Breastfeeding generally is done discretely and exposes significantly less than jogging around with nothing on your torso. Very different.

I'm just wondering how that will happen. Something like a nipple won't suddenly make a person want to kidnap a woman. As far as I know, most people who would actually commit acts like those would commit it regardless of what the person is wearing.

The sudden exposure and change is pretty much bound to increase the risk. You can't simply trust people to act the way you want when you're handing them a motive to do the opposite. Just saying, it's not practical at all to assume everyone is not going to be influenced by sudden exposure of breasts.

Should not having "class" be illegal?

Yes, not having any "class" should be illegal. Less you intend to play /b/ in real life. There needs to be some minimum limits set to keep things orderly.

Exactly. And people would freak out if the laws on that were changed now. But if it wasn't a law in the first place, it would be no different or more distracting than seeing someones face.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles... /shrug



P.S. I find a good pair of clothes quite attractive thank you very much topless guys
 

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I've always wondered though, where did the "more developed" countries suddenly get the idea that women needed to put a top on or else it's disrespectful? It couldn't have been a distraction before, so why did somone decide they needed to cover up?

I know it's been that way for a very long time in a lot of places, but if you go to some countries women will laugh when they hear women have to do that in other countries.
 
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Why not? Oh that's right, the world assumes that everyone is a pervert, right?

WRONG

Me, for one don't really think breasts are all that glorious. Just milk and skin, yeesh. Why're y'all so attracted to them?
 

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What's the thing wrong with being topless?

Its not like you won't see it in Biology class, I mean before everyone was naked and noone cares. :/

So my opinion would be yes, if it weren't for the perverts who just loves to see topless women (even in bras).
 

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In my opinion I think if a woman or someone feels comfortable walking around topless or naked then they should have the freedom to do that, but I can also add that there are a lot of sick minded people around that will probably try to harass them in anyway if they did.
 

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I've always wondered though, where did the "more developed" countries suddenly get the idea that women needed to put a top on or else it's disrespectful? It couldn't have been a distraction before, so why did somone decide they needed to cover up?

I know it's been that way for a very long time in a lot of places, but if you go to some countries women will laugh when they hear women have to do that in other countries.

It's likely that one tribe/nation created laws like that for religious reasons which then spread across the world via preaching and military conquer.
That and the fact that early traders etc from the western world may have "encouraged" women from the places they arrived in to subscribe to their ideas of the social norm.
Anyway, before people covered up at all it would hardly be surprising to see people's area below the waist (for lack of a more appropriate term).
 

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...I cannot believe how many yes... ...What is this I don't even...
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The only reason I think woman think they should have to cover-up(or even both genders being clothed at all!) Is because of the one thing we all know and love:

RELI-GION. Also, we probably only put clothes on in the winter, and maybe we used to wear protective skins from the elements. But yeah, you get the point.

If a person wants to go out au natural, I say go for it if there's no police fine involved.

(Actually done it once, wasn't caught)
 

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I'm sad to see that some people can't figure out the difference between "letting everybody have the possibility to do something" and "actively encouraging everybody to do something".

As far as I know, the topic is "Should women be allowed to be around naked without being fined?", not "Would you like all the women in your zone to go naked?".

I guess that's one of the reasons why debates fail: failure to understand the real topic.
 
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(Thank you Went.)

Back on topic: Sure, why not? I'm not a pervert, don't mind if they do or don't. To me, woman and men, physical, don't really seem different. So yeah, sure, go ahead.
 

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In the summer of 1996 Gwen Jacobs enjoyed a topless summer stroll during which she was seen by a local O.P.P officer, was apprehended and subsequently charged with indecent exposure. Gwen Jacobs pleaded not guilty in court and won the right to go topless in Ontario. This incident brought up an excellent question: should women be allowed to go topless on public beaches and in other public areas?

The answer is strictly no, women should not be allowed to go topless anywhere outside of their own home. One of the many reasons why I believe that women should not be allowed to go topless is with respect to the safety of women. Men and boys have, in recent years, been using short, tight, skirts and shirts as an excuse for rape or date rape. Men have said that the girl was wearing a tight shirt and short skirt and it was obvious that she was easy and wanted the attention.

This statement leads me to my next point. The average human being upon first contact with a stranger bases his initial impression of that person solely on the person's appearance. This is only natural as the only thing that we know about this stranger is what we see of them the first time we meet. We all are aware of the sayings "Preppy","Jockish","Skater","****y" etc. This final saying, "****y" is interpreted by 90 percent of North Americans as a tight skirt and tight tank top which happens to be the usual ensemble of a prostitute. This first impression of a girl in nothing but a skirt and a bare chest will no doubt elevate to the new version of a "****" and a girl that wants it.

My second point is, what kind of questions will a mother be asked by her son when he sees a half nude woman walking down the street. The first question that this child will ask is why do these women have no shirt on and you do? Your reply will be well ahhh go talk to your father. This dilemma will no doubt be brought about as these and other questions about the sexual nature of the body will be put forth by young children. Questions that you as a parent do not feel should be answered truthfully to such a young child.

My third point begins thousands of years ago when man first walked on the earth. When man first walked he hunted and his wife(clothless) cleaned the game and took care of the young. As centuries have progressed women have stepped forth into a new era of equal rights. We've seen the first women doctors, astronauts, business owners and many other firsts in numerous professions. Women have made giant leaps when it comes to respect from men in their professional field. This respect which women have been fighting for over the past century, is on the verge of collapse. Women seem to be taking this new law allowing them to go topless to an extreme. Walking their dogs, walking on the beach and strolling through public places with no tops on. This display of nudity, in the average person's eyes, whether they admit to it or not, will cause men to look down again on women. If, for example, the first woman astronaut (Sally Ride) were to start going topless in public places it would be plastered on the front page of every newspaper. This in turn would lead to her fellow colleagues looking down on her. This would be a giant step backwards in respect to equal rights for women.

Following the changes to this law allowing women to go topless our cities will slowly begin to diverge into places that encourage nudity and places that do not encourage nudity. Our economy will begin to collapse, as store owners appalled by this nudity will be forced to close their stores and move, if this nudity is surrounding them. This also applies to stores that want to have workers that want to go topless, they will be forced to relocate to places of nudity. As this begins to happen slowly our cities will become two sided and our economy's stability will collapse beneath our feet. An excellent example of this situation is taking place in Quebec. A law in Quebec states that a women may work in nothing less than lingerie. So a Quebec barber shop run by a well endowed women decided to charge an extra ten dollars per haircut and she'd remove her shirt so they could watch her cut their hair in just a bra. She also charged an extra fifteen to remove her bottoms so she had only her underwear on. This new business skyrocketed and now there is currently 15 of these hair dressers presently in Quebec. The neighborhoods surrounding these barbershops are appalled by what is going on and many people have relocated there families away from this nudity. In conclusion to the question: should women be allowed to go topless in public places? It has been clearly shown that women should not be allowed to go topless anywhere outside of their own home.
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Jolene, I have no idea what that thing just said, and I'm going to say this:

RIGHT AND WRONG DON'T EXIST IN OPINIONS.

I rest my case.

Back to topic:

Honestly, why is it such a big deal? Why should you, or anyone else matter if someone wants to expose their body a bit more?
 

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Honestly, why is it such a big deal? Why should you, or anyone else matter if someone wants to expose their body a bit more?

If more women started to not wear tops in public then it would make men look down on women in general. More than they already do! An injury to one is an injury to all!
 

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i just think it should be allowed. not that women HAVE to start walking around topless. just that if we wanted to. we could

People who use tight revealings clothes as an excuse to harrass women are morons ._.
i've seen some comments about
"sudden exposure" and how "women will suddenly walk around half naked"
its not like suddenly half the women in america are gonna be walking around topless for no reason now. there are places where women ARE allowed to go topless, but they still do rarely

heck. I don't know about other places but, i hardly see that many men walk around shirtless. only sometimes
when they're out at the beach or they're playing basket ball or something and its really hot

besides most places don't allow men to waltz in topless either.
how often do you see a man go to a resturant or to work or to school without a shirt?
really
 
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If more women started to not wear tops in public then it would make men look down on women in general. More than they already do! An injury to one is an injury to all!

I find this comment offensive to men, just because one man may look down on women just because a select few decide to take there tops off that doesn't mean that all men will suddenly begin protesting that woman's rights be removed or something like that.

 
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Dawn

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Jolene, I have no idea what that thing just said, and I'm going to say this:

RIGHT AND WRONG DON'T EXIST IN OPINIONS.

I rest my case.

Back to topic:

Honestly, why is it such a big deal? Why should you, or anyone else matter if someone wants to expose their body a bit more?

It's hardly an opinion to give a reason why something shouldn't be done.

It's a big deal because Men =/= Women and a Woman's chest is very different from a Man's and blablablabla you cannot change society just because you think "Why not?" because some people are very genuinely not okay with this and bla bla bla it doesn't matter if people wouldn't care had we never invented clothes and or before because that's simply the past and not reality in the present.

tl;dr - We're raised to care and it's just the way the cookie crumbles and it would cause problems to suddenly change that.

That's not to say it couldn't be changed, but it would require a lot more effort just to let people do something that isn't particularly helpful in any way.


RELI-GION. Also, we probably only put clothes on in the winter, and maybe we used to wear protective skins from the elements. But yeah, you get the point.

You're coming off as an atheist that's a bit too angry at the world. Just pointing that out.
 

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well if they want to then sure I guess I wouldnt think anything of it just that theres a woman over there without a top on and nothing more (and no Im not gay I just think it would be rude to say or think something dirty about a total stranger or even worse a friend or aquantance)
but i wouldnt advise a female to do so as there is just to many sickos and pervs who would like nothing more than to gauwk at them all day so Id say Im against it but only because I would have a womans best interests at heart.
 
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Actually, I am a Muslim. Yeah, I am angry at the world(family dishonored me).

But still, I don't get it. What's the big deal, whether you're topless or not? I understand pedos and stuff, but it's not like they lurk in every corner.
 
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