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Old July 16th, 2012, 02:31 AM
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Arcanian Clan Team

My Team from a distance:



My Team up close and detailed (Portable):
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Physical Sweeper

(Hunter) Arcanine @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Jolly
EV’s: 252 Spe/252 Atk/4 HP
Moveset:

~ Flare Blitz
~ Wild Charge
~ Dig
~ Aerial Ace

Special Sweeper

(Blur) Hydreigon @ Power Herb
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EV’s: 252 SAtk/252 Spe/4 HP
Moveset:

~ Draco Meteor
~ Surf
~ Fire Blast
~ Focus Blast

Cleric

(Plaster) Chansey @ Eviolite
Ability:
Nature: Bold
EV’s: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe
Moveset:

~ Protect
~ Seismic Toss
~ Wish
~ Toxic


Rapid Spinner

(Gem) Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Timid
EV’s: 252 SAtk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
Moveset:

~ Rapid Spin
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hydro Pump


Tank

(Beast) Dragonite @ Leftovers
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Modest
EV’s: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spe
Moveset:

~ Draco Meteor
~ Thunder Wave
~ Roost
~ Flamethrower

Bulky Water

(Dissolver) Vaporeon @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold
EV’s: 252 HP/252 Def/ 4 SAtk
Moveset

~ Baton Pass
~ Substitute
~ Scald
~ Acid Armor
I lost my spare Life Orbs as i released my pokemon holding them. Also for any suggestions please only use 252/252/4 sets, Try to make any suggestions not from Gen V and Arcanine has to stay. Thanks :D.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 02:51 AM
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You're going have to re-breed Arcanine, since one of its good moves, Close Combat, is one if its egg moves. Dig is also terrible competitively, since it's so easy to get around. And what purpose does Aerial Ace serve? I don't see much use of it; use ExtremeSpeed for the priority.

Hydreigon has no need for the Power Herb since it has no charge-up moves. I think you were referring to the White Herb? A Choice Specs or Choice Scarf is a better alternative because of the ability to either hit hard or fast right off the bat. If you use one of these items, consider U-turn somewhere on Hydreigon.

If you can go to the Dream World, try and get a Dragonite with Multiscale; it should be the primary ability to be used. Or you can wait till B2/W2 where you can potentially get one in a Hidden Hollow:
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Fire Punch
-Roost/Earthquake/ExtremeSpeed
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/44 Atk/216 Spe or 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Multiscale

or
-Substitute
-Thunder Wave
-Dragon Tail
-Roost
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale

And if you don't mind my asking, why the 4/252/252 spreads? Sometimes different spreads are better to suit the Pokemon's needs. The Vaporeon set you're using should be 244 HP/136 Def/128 Spe.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:18 AM
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You're going have to re-breed Arcanine, since one of its good moves, Close Combat, is one if its egg moves. Dig is also terrible competitively, since it's so easy to get around. And what purpose does Aerial Ace serve? I don't see much use of it; use ExtremeSpeed for the priority.
I had Aerial Ace and Dig for coverage, i knew someone would tell me to change it's moves but yeah i'll re-breed it :/

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Hydreigon has no need for the Power Herb since it has no charge-up moves. I think you were referring to the White Herb? A Choice Specs or Choice Scarf is a better alternative because of the ability to either hit hard or fast right off the bat. If you use one of these items, consider U-turn somewhere on Hydreigon.
Yeah that is what i meant lol... I hate getting locked into a move, but i'll change the item and replace Surf for U-Turn.

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude View Post
If you can go to the Dream World, try and get a Dragonite with Multiscale; it should be the primary ability to be used. Or you can wait till B2/W2 where you can potentially get one in a Hidden Hollow:
-Dragon Dance
-Dragon Claw/Outrage
-Fire Punch
-Roost/Earthquake/ExtremeSpeed
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/44 Atk/216 Spe or 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Multiscale

or
-Substitute
-Thunder Wave
-Dragon Tail
-Roost
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
Trust me, if i had access to my WiFi, Dratini is 1st on my list (Ninetales being 2nd), so for the time being, i'll make use with what i've got. Also if can suggest a set with SOME Bulk but can fair on the specially offensive side that would be good.

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And if you don't mind my asking, why the 4/252/252 spreads? Sometimes different spreads are better to suit the Pokemon's needs. The Vaporeon set you're using should be 244 HP/136 Def/128 Spe.
Tbh i really just want dedicated, non-balanced, easy-to-train spreads. And i know they suit them better, but i haven't the time to re-EV Train a million pokemon.

Anything else wrong? I've realised my team is OU lol (except Arcanine), i guess im just used to it
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:20 AM
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Well, if you hate training pokémon, ask someone for a Pokérus or use Macho Balance. Also you can play Pokémon Online.

About the team, P-Dude already said most of my suggestion, so I will just tell you to change some item.
You should take Life Orb of Arcanine for Starmie, and slap some Choice Band to him cuz he have the awesome ExtremeSpeed, plus nice offensive power with Flash Fire on. If you still want to have LO on Arcanine, ask someone you know for it or just use a cheat device (like me) to get one.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:39 AM
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I have both of those things legity, and i said haven't the time to re-train a whole team. Also i have PO but i feel like some WiFi Battles, what i hate is getting locked into one move. My AR is also buggered so i don't use it. You think everything else is fine?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:42 AM
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I had Aerial Ace and Dig for coverage, i knew someone would tell me to change it's moves but yeah i'll re-breed it :/

Yeah that is what i meant lol... I hate getting locked into a move, but i'll change the item and replace Surf for U-Turn.

Trust me, if i had access to my WiFi, Dratini is 1st on my list (Ninetales being 2nd), so for the time being, i'll make use with what i've got. Also if can suggest a set with SOME Bulk but can fair on the specially offensive side that would be good.

Tbh i really just want dedicated, non-balanced, easy-to-train spreads. And i know they suit them better, but i haven't the time to re-EV Train a million pokemon.

Anything else wrong? I've realised my team is OU lol (except Arcanine), i guess im just used to it
Cool, i can easily counter your team now, know ur movesets, and plan my team around it, thankz!
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:54 AM
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Are you really gonna base your team around me? There are other challengers
That being said, im changing part of my team.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:17 AM
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For a spinner, use Donphan if can't afford a LO for Starmie (It will mostly be 2HKOed so Leftovers is meaningless). I suggest this set
Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Traits: Sturdy
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:21 AM
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Thanks, that set looks good, i'll VM you what else i have in mind
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