Go Back   The PokéCommunity Forums > Pokémon Gaming > Pokémon Gaming Central

Notices
For all updates, view the main page.

Pokémon Gaming Central For topics that aren't necessarily restricted to one game, Pokémon Gaming Central ranges from comparing and contrasting the differences in the gaming generations to discussing the gaming franchise as a whole.



Reply
Click here to go to the first staff post in this thread.  
Thread Tools
  #301    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (11:33 AM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
Quote originally posted by ggctuk:
Given it seems to be the trend to do massive cities in the games since BW, I wonder what city in Kanto might fulfil the role of Castelia/Lumiose/Mauville in a potential remake. It'd be either Saffron or Celadon, but it'd be interesting to see which one they'd pick.
I'm hoping for Saffron due to it based on Tokyo...but then again they didn't make Petalburg bigger even though that city is based on the biggest city in real like Kyushu irc. However Saffron has the same kind of central location in their region that Lumiose and Mauville do.
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
  #302    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (01:14 PM).
BettyNewbie's Avatar
BettyNewbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Gender: Female
Quote originally posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire:
I'm hoping for Saffron due to it based on Tokyo...but then again they didn't make Petalburg bigger even though that city is based on the biggest city in real like Kyushu irc. However Saffron has the same kind of central location in their region that Lumiose and Mauville do.
I hope Saffron gets expanded by a lot. Despite it being such a large city, there was never much to do there. Maybe, they could stick a contest hall or battle facility there? (I'd never use either, but I know a lot of others would.)
Reply With Quote
  #303    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (03:53 PM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
Maybe they could put Unova's subway in Saffron post game? It does have a the Magnet Train in the Johto games so maybe have them be in the middle of adding a new line to Johto.

Also they could add some Super Contests (that is Sinnoh style) and have Daisy participate in them as her FrLg fame checker called her a "star cordinator" or something along those lines. Maybe make her into a not a modest and not so peppy but still kind contest idol. So while her little brother conquers the battling world she conquers the world of contests. Maybe they could give her a Mega. I imagine her with Vileplume( or Bellossom if they give Vileplume to Erika again) due to her flower name. Maybe she could have a team of 5. Vileplume for Beauty or cuteness, Tangrowth for tough, Venusaur (her starter?!) for coolness, Paras for smart, and ...Victribell for beauty or even more oddly...cuteness depending on what Vileplume is. If they're add Johto mons then Sunflora should replace Paras and be the beauty, Victribell Smart, and Vileplume cute, Venusaur cool. Tangrowth stays the same.
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
  #304    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (05:09 PM).
BettyNewbie's Avatar
BettyNewbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Gender: Female
Quote originally posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire:
Maybe they could put Unova's subway in Saffron post game? It does have a the Magnet Train in the Johto games so maybe have them be in the middle of adding a new line to Johto.
That'd be a great idea. It establishes a link with Unova (however small), and it foreshadows Gen 2. Perfect!

Quote originally posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire:
Also they could add some Super Contests (that is Sinnoh style) and have Daisy participate in them as her FrLg fame checker called her a "star cordinator" or something along those lines. Maybe make her into a not a modest and not so peppy but still kind contest idol. So while her little brother conquers the battling world she conquers the world of contests. Maybe they could give her a Mega. I imagine her with Vileplume( or Bellossom if they give Vileplume to Erika again) due to her flower name. Maybe she could have a team of 5. Vileplume for Beauty or cuteness, Tangrowth for tough, Venusaur (her starter?!) for coolness, Paras for smart, and ...Victribell for beauty or even more oddly...cuteness depending on what Vileplume is. If they're add Johto mons then Sunflora should replace Paras and be the beauty, Victribell Smart, and Vileplume cute, Venusaur cool. Tangrowth stays the same.
That's an excellent idea, too. It'd be great to finally see some characterization for Daisy, and the Sunflora/Victreebel/Vileplume/Tangrowth/Venusaur team is perfect for her. (They could also give her Roserade, Whimsicott, Lilligant, and/or Florges (not a Grass type for whatever reason, but still a flower) in the postgame.)
Reply With Quote
  #305    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (07:09 PM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
Quote originally posted by BettyNewbie:
That'd be a great idea. It establishes a link with Unova (however small), and it foreshadows Gen 2. Perfect!



That's an excellent idea, too. It'd be great to finally see some characterization for Daisy, and the Sunflora/Victreebel/Vileplume/Tangrowth/Venusaur team is perfect for her. (They could also give her Roserade, Whimsicott, Lilligant, and/or Florges (not a Grass type for whatever reason, but still a flower) in the postgame.)
Perhaps the Train twins were born in Kanto like how the sister's in the Maison were born in Hoenn.
I love that post game team. I also wanted to give her Roserade and Lilligant.
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
  #306    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (01:06 PM).
BettyNewbie's Avatar
BettyNewbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Gender: Female
In another thread, I posted this as an idea for how a Gen 1 remake could redo the (lame) backstory FRLG attempted to give Lorelei and write her out of the E4 in a way that treats her with respect and gives her room to reappear in a future game:

Quote:
I want the games to establish her as a marine researcher, maybe out investigating Navel Rock (retconned into a place more like Seafoam/Whirl) with her close friend and Sevii's local professor, Philena Ivy (or someone heavily based on her) and her other close friend and fellow E4 member, Lance (who's always been fascinated by Lugia, a dragon-like Pokémon he heard stories about growing up in Blackthorn).

While there, they run into Archer, Ariana, Petrel, and Proton. They have stolen the Blue, Yellow, and Red Orbs in hopes of awakening Lugia (after placing them together on an altar at the very top of Navel Rock) and sending the ultimate message out to Giovanni (who vanished after disbanding Team Rocket).

The first Orb, the Red One, is at Mt. Ember (retconned into a dark, creepy volcano; Red Orb is roughly where the Ruby was in FRLG). At the end of the tunnel (and several Rocket Grunts) is Proton, who runs off and drops the Red Orb after you defeat him.

Just as you exit Mt. Ember, you run into Ivy, who has just received a Pokégear call from Lance; he's at the Rocket Warehouse on Chrono Island and ran into some trouble getting the Yellow Orb. You head there, beat some more Grunts (including Jessie and James, in their final appearance. More on that later...), and enter a back room to find Lance being cornered by Ariana and Petrel. Ariana mocks him, telling him "However strong you may be, you can't take both of us at the same time. Sorry, baby. Now get ready to be thrashed," and when she sees you barge in, she tells him something along the lines of "What? You had an accomplice? Where is your sense of honor?"

You and Lance fight Ariana and Proton in a tag battle, and after beating them, they run off to Navel Rock (where Lorelei and Archer are), but not before Petrel drops the Yellow Orb. Afterwards, Lance tells you that he had been snooping around and discovered Archer's plans to rebuild Team Rocket in Johto and create an evolution-inducing device; he snapped photos and made copies, planning to investigate this at a later date. He then, expresses concern for Lorelei and takes you back to Navel Rock (via flying on his Dragonite), where she, Archer, and the Blue Orb are located.

When you get there, Lorelei is arguing with Archer (who is implied to be her ex-boyfriend), who mocks her for being a "silly woman who doesn't know better," and she calls him a "selfish pig." In response, Archer slaps her, making her glasses fall to the ground, and Lance runs forward, threatening to unleash wrath on him if he sees him hit her again. Archer evilly laughs, accusing Lorelei of always needing her "boyfriend" to rescue her, and she calmly gets up, puts her glasses back on, and hits him right back. Lorelei tells him that she can rescue herself just fine, and she challenges him to a battle.

Archer dusts himself off and calls Proton over, telling Lorelei that she's going to have to fight the two of them at the same time. Lorelei grabs you and says "No problem." You and Lorelei get into a tag battle against Archer and Proton, after defeated, Archer hands over the Blue Orb and vows that this won't be the end of him or Team Rocket.

Once the Rockets leave, Lorelei tells you about the legend behind the Orbs, and their connection to Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres and Lugia. She says that the birds have been seen roaming Kanto ever since the Orbs went missing, explaining why they were at Seafoam/Power Plant/Victory Road instead of the smaller islands surrounding Navel Rock. She, then, points you in the direction of the altar, and you climb up there, placing the three Orbs together. One amazing cutscene later, you get into a battle with a L70 Lugia, and after you either capture or defeat it, Lorelei and Lance run up to you and express amazement at what they witnessed. They thank you for helping them save the day and return to the Indigo Plateau, unlocking the rematch Elite Four. (They will both have completely different dialog if you return to rebattle them.)

On certain days of the week (after completing the Lugia event), you can find Lorelei and Lance on certain days of the week training together in Navel Rock. They will challenge you to a double battle and after defeating them, Lorelei tells you that she is considering leaving the Elite Four sometime in the future. She feels that being there is limiting her potential as a trainer (which Lance agrees with, as she is seen defeating him as we arrive) and keeping her from her passion for research. We also learn that a new League is being established in the Sevii Islands, and they want Lorelei to head it as its Champion... Which is where she'll be when we revisit her story in the sequel (Gen 2) three years later.
It also serves as a postgame Lugia story that canonizes its link to Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres (with a few nods to Pokémon 2000, such as the Orbs and Navel Rock being retconned into a pseudo-Shamouti Island), as well as directly sets up the Team Rocket plot for the Gen 2 games (ie. the Lance and Ariana scene).

What do you think?
Reply With Quote
  #307    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (08:27 PM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
Quote originally posted by BettyNewbie:
In another thread, I posted this as an idea for how a Gen 1 remake could redo the (lame) backstory FRLG attempted to give Lorelei and write her out of the E4 in a way that treats her with respect and gives her room to reappear in a future game:



It also serves as a postgame Lugia story that canonizes its link to Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres (with a few nods to Pokémon 2000, such as the Orbs and Navel Rock being retconned into a pseudo-Shamouti Island), as well as directly sets up the Team Rocket plot for the Gen 2 games (ie. the Lance and Ariana scene).

What do you think?
As I said by VM they'll need to change the orb names in english to avoid confusion with the Weather Trio orbs (though in Japanese it's fine as Groudon's is called the Crimson Orb, and Kyogre's the Indigo Orb.) Actually would perfer they make them feathers and/or bells to fit in with Lugia's Silver Wing and the bell they gave it in Ss. They could have the feathers when united have a similar power as the Silver Wing (but weaker seperately). Perhaps the orbs/feathers can be used as the bird trio's Mega stones (or perhaps they'll form Lugia's).
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
  #308    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (08:54 PM).
BettyNewbie's Avatar
BettyNewbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Gender: Female
I prefer keeping them as Orbs, although they could easily be renamed Ice/Electric/Fire.

The birds' Mega Stones would be found in the trio of Islands surrounding Navel Rock. Also, the birds, themselves, would return to the islands (where they can be caught at L50) if you didn't catch/defeat them in Kanto before awakening Lugia.

I'd drop various hints to this storyline throughout the Kanto part of the game, especially around Seafoam/Power Plant/Victory Road.
Reply With Quote
  #309    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (01:58 AM).
ShyRayq's Avatar
ShyRayq
Unprofessional Unprofessional
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
I am in the camp that would prefer a break this year and a new game being revealed later this year/released next year.

A Red/Green re-remake for the 20th anniversary makes sense and I would love to see Kanto in 3D. But honestly I'd prefer if the storyline was altered, because after playing the more story-driven games from Gen V and VI, FireRed and LeafGreen just can't keep my attention.

Although, I can't think of how the plot could be reworked to include Mega Evolution and all that. Giovanni monopolising on Mega Stones? Or something more Pokemon-esque.
__________________
3DS Friend Code: 5069-3944-3902
IGN: Peter, (Pokemon Y, Pokemon OR)
Friend Safari: (Fighting) Throh, Meditite, Breloom
Live Pokedex (Y) Completed as of 02/03/14 (718), 10/11/14 (719)
Live Pokedex (OR) Completed as of 25/12/14 (719)
Big thanks especially to DestinedJagold, Xerneas_X, Elements1 and ~RNC~

PM me if you want to trade, or add my FC.
Reply With Quote
  #310    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (08:36 PM).
Indigo's Avatar
Indigo
The Novelist from Panju
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Gender: Male
Nature: Naive
Please NO! Not to be rude, but we've been to Kanto soooooooooooooo much! It's getting old to me.
__________________
My Hack:
Reply With Quote
  #311    
Old 3 Weeks Ago (09:33 PM).
MtArgente's Avatar
MtArgente
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Gender: Male
No, we don't need to play in Kanto for the 5th time.
Reply With Quote
  #312    
Old 2 Weeks Ago (10:48 PM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
Quote originally posted by ShyRayq:
I am in the camp that would prefer a break this year and a new game being revealed later this year/released next year.

A Red/Green re-remake for the 20th anniversary makes sense and I would love to see Kanto in 3D. But honestly I'd prefer if the storyline was altered, because after playing the more story-driven games from Gen V and VI, FireRed and LeafGreen just can't keep my attention.

Although, I can't think of how the plot could be reworked to include Mega Evolution and all that. Giovanni monopolising on Mega Stones? Or something more Pokemon-esque.
Perhaps Giovanni will seek out Mega items to make his organization more powerful. Also they could add in Ariana and Archer could appear in the Kanto story-line with their own Mega items. With Archer using Mega Houndoom and Ariana using either Mega Vileplume, or Mega Arbok. I bring up these two as they appear in FrLg at the Rocket Warehouse in the Sevii islands, or at least two executives with similar teams to theirs do. They could add the other two as well (Mega Weezing for both?). Perhaps they could have Giovanni plan an attack on Indigo Plateau to make himself the new Champion and thus head of the Kanto...and the Johto region, like how Ghetsis refers to N as (for the Unova region) during his call to free the Pokemon when N defeats Alder. His Four Generals could act as his version of the Elite 4. Perhaps replace Proton (maybe Normal with Mega Raticate as his ace?) and Petrel's (perhaps Dark? or Poison and Ariana Dark with Mega Honcrow as her ace) teams to other types while making Ariana a poison type (or Dark if Petrel is poison) specialist and Archer a fire type specialist.
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
  #313    
Old 2 Weeks Ago (11:42 PM).
ShyRayq's Avatar
ShyRayq
Unprofessional Unprofessional
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Gender: Male
Nature: Adamant
Quote originally posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire:
Perhaps Giovanni will seek out Mega items to make his organization more powerful. Also they could add in Ariana and Archer could appear in the Kanto story-line with their own Mega items. With Archer using Mega Houndoom and Ariana using either Mega Vileplume, or Mega Arbok. I bring up these two as they appear in FrLg at the Rocket Warehouse in the Sevii islands, or at least two executives with similar teams to theirs do. They could add the other two as well (Mega Weezing for both?). Perhaps they could have Giovanni plan an attack on Indigo Plateau to make himself the new Champion and thus head of the Kanto...and the Johto region, like how Ghetsis refers to N as (for the Unova region) during his call to free the Pokemon when N defeats Alder. His Four Generals could act as his version of the Elite 4. Perhaps replace Proton (maybe Normal with Mega Raticate as his ace?) and Petrel's (perhaps Dark? or Poison and Ariana Dark with Mega Honcrow as her ace) teams to other types while making Ariana a poison type (or Dark if Petrel is poison) specialist and Archer a fire type specialist.
That would actually be really cool. I mean, it would make Rocket more deadly/on par with teams like Plasma and Flare in terms of 'evil'? Or power. Something like that. Maybe incorporating Mega Mewtwo in there somewhere? And having a more in depth look into its history, with Blaine and Mr. Fuji.
Things like this would really enhance the plot of Kanto. Make it more in-depth and expanding on the characters. Like I said, I'd prefer something like this over the bland Rocket of R/B and FR/LG.
__________________
3DS Friend Code: 5069-3944-3902
IGN: Peter, (Pokemon Y, Pokemon OR)
Friend Safari: (Fighting) Throh, Meditite, Breloom
Live Pokedex (Y) Completed as of 02/03/14 (718), 10/11/14 (719)
Live Pokedex (OR) Completed as of 25/12/14 (719)
Big thanks especially to DestinedJagold, Xerneas_X, Elements1 and ~RNC~

PM me if you want to trade, or add my FC.
Reply With Quote
  #314    
Old 4 Days Ago (01:15 PM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
If they remake Kanto again I'll like to see new areas added to the region. Perhaps a route north of Mt. Moon that can be accessed post game. It could have the Kalos mascots even.
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
  #315    
Old 4 Days Ago (03:33 PM).
BettyNewbie's Avatar
BettyNewbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Gender: Female
Quote originally posted by OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire:
If they remake Kanto again I'll like to see new areas added to the region. Perhaps a route north of Mt. Moon that can be accessed post game. It could have the Kalos mascots even.
The entire region should get an overhaul, if you ask me. The 3DS is capable of far more than the GB/C, GBA, and even, DS, so all of the cities and routes could stand to be expanded. With the right thinking, even Pallet Town could be redone to look more like this, this, or this. Imagine how a larger city like Celadon or Saffron could look!

And, of course, with the redesign would come new areas. Cinnabar should have an explorable volcano, and there should also be a new area added near the Power Plant where Magneton could evolve. I wouldn't mind seeing the underground tunnels between Cerulean/Vermillion and Celadon/Lavender fleshed out, too.
Reply With Quote
  #316    
Old 4 Days Ago (08:51 PM).
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire's Avatar
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire
10000 year Emperor of Hoenn
Community Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: West Coast
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Nature: Careful
Maybe they could bring back Underground Secret Bases and have them play a role in the tunnels?

Speaking the 3DS keep in mind that GF could even use the "New" 3DS which is more powerful than the 3DS so if done right they can do so much more.

Kanto is known for being very urban and modern (check out Bulbapedia's page, it's one of the few things they highlight about Kanto along with their scientific achievement) so making it's cities larger would make sense.
Also since every non-Kanto Electric gym leader likes messing with their city (Wattson redesigned Mauville, Volkner's gym caused the power outage, Elesa had a entire new building made for gym despite having one she could just have remodeled, and Citron like making inventions and uses the city's biggest attraction as a gym ) perhaps Lt. Surge will follow suit.
The old man's building could finally be completed in this new timeline! It could be a PWT even.
__________________
Team Treecko
Reply With Quote
Reply
Quick Reply

Sponsored Links
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Minimum Characters Per Post: 25



All times are UTC -8. The time now is 10:00 PM.