6th Gen Field Moves and HMs

So in the last video we were shown 2 things that haven been staples in the games since Generation 1. Field Moves (attacks which have effects upon the overworld) and HMs. Pokemon X and Y have shown us two Field Moves that are returning to the games leaving us to question if others are to follow.

Cut, Surf, Fly, Strength, Waterfall, Rocksmash, Flash, Dig, Teleport, Softboiled, Whirlpool, Headbutt, Sweetscent, Milk Drink, Dive, Secret Power, Defog, Rock Climb, and Chatter are the only known Field Moves so far.

There is the possibility of a new one being added in this generation, but which ones do you think will stay as Field Moves?

What new Field Moves would you like to see?

My predictions are that Dig and Rock Climb would be returning to the games as HMs. There may be obstacles such as for example thin walls which can easily be be cut through by Dig (or Rock Smash). Rock Climb may be useful for climbing flat, vertical ledges (Works just like Waterfall without the water).

If there is a possibility of a new HM move coming up I'd guess it would be Float (A status move which works like Magnet-Rise). Float in adventure mode would glide the player gently down sheer drops.

Ride! Either a field move that only a few Pokémon like Rapidash, Gogoat and Rhyhorn can learn or a HM that a lot of more Pokémon can learn but is not neccesary to complete the game.

Well, of course, the basic cut, surf, fly, and maybe strength are returning, but I'm not so sure about the others.

I think Ride will be an innate ability of a pokemon, similar to how pokemon could walk with you in HGSS but optional. The fact that they've been decreasing the amount of required HM moves, and that it's hard to imagine what Ride would do in-battle, are some reasons why. I could only imagine Ride being some sort of Helping Hand, if it was an actual battle move.

I think the HM moves will be similar to Black/White. They already experimented in 4th gen with having very many HMs, so I think they figured that they prefer the old formula better. Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall...

As for field moves that aren't required, I think the list can only grow.

Shrew said:

I think Ride will be an innate ability of a pokemon, similar to how pokemon could walk with you in HGSS but optional. The fact that they've been decreasing the amount of required HM moves, and that it's hard to imagine what Ride would do in-battle, are some reasons why. I could only imagine Ride being some sort of Helping Hand, if it was an actual battle move.

I think the HM moves will be similar to Black/White. They already experimented in 4th gen with having very many HMs, so I think they figured that they prefer the old formula better. Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall...

As for field moves that aren't required, I think the list can only grow.

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Uh Hoenn had the same number as Sinnoh (so the experimentation begun in 3 and continued) so they may have 8 for another generation. I felt Unova had too few but it made sense as we barely used them...they were just there...

Shrew said:

I think Ride will be an innate ability of a pokemon, similar to how pokemon could walk with you in HGSS but optional. The fact that they've been decreasing the amount of required HM moves, and that it's hard to imagine what Ride would do in-battle, are some reasons why. I could only imagine Ride being some sort of Helping Hand, if it was an actual battle move.

I think the HM moves will be similar to Black/White. They already experimented in 4th gen with having very many HMs, so I think they figured that they prefer the old formula better. Cut, Fly, Surf, Strength, Waterfall...

As for field moves that aren't required, I think the list can only grow.

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Well, Rock Climb, Fly and Surf are also strange moves. Maybe it would work like a stronger Quick Attack.

I really hope that defog isn't included, due to the fact that it was so useless and it felt stupid using it as I didn't really need it to see anyway. Rant over lol.

Voliol said:

Ride! Either a field move that only a few Pokémon like Rapidash, Gogoat and Rhyhorn can learn or a HM that a lot of more Pokémon can learn but is not neccesary to complete the game.

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I was also thinking this, except maybe "Trample" or "Stampede" would be more fitting for an actual battle move.

It appears dive is back, but i also see a riding themed move.

Zoroark, is this what you're referring to? It could be a dive zone, or perhaps this is there new way of showing the boundaries of water, as opposed to rocks. But yeah, I think Dive is very likely.

I did not know that Hoenn had 8 HMs. With that said, I enjoy having a lot of HMs, too.

If Ride is to be an offensive move, then a name like Stampede would make for a better name. :P

That buoy signifies that it may very well be a new boundary marker.

XanderO said:

That buoy signifies that it may very well be a new boundary marker.

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^ Basically what he said. Most sea routes tend to have something like that such as the rocks.

I'd definitely see Fly and Surf returning as HMs, Surf has probably been confirmed already but Fly is handy because flying around is more convenient than walking in some circumstances. What I am hoping to see is less obstacles and therefore less need to use HMs like in 5th Gen.

I just hope that they make the HM a little bit Stronger than before and maybe a HM that can Sharply lower the opponent stats or Sharply increase the user stat.

Voliol said:

Ride! Either a field move that only a few Pokémon like Rapidash, Gogoat and Rhyhorn can learn or a HM that a lot of more Pokémon can learn but is not neccesary to complete the game.

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How can you ride on Rapidash when its back is covered with flames haha?

I don't think riding would be an HM unless Nintendo shocks us by having your actual partner pokémon in battle hop on another one but that's still unlikely as a Snorlax on a Gigafarig ... poor Gigafarig.

They could just make a whole new idea called "field abilities" in addition to a pokémon's battle ability that can only be used outside battle. Some can ride on water, get you past whirlpools (like clampearl from HG/SS), dig underground, ride, etc. and just make the HMs like Surf and Waterfall regular attack moves.

ballin'Blissey said:

How can you ride on Rapidash when its back is covered with flames haha?

I don't think riding would be an HM unless Nintendo shocks us by having your actual partner pokémon in battle hop on another one but that's still unlikely as a Snorlax on a Gigafarig ... poor Gigafarig.

They could just make a whole new idea called "field abilities" in addition to a pokémon's battle ability that can only be used outside battle. Some can ride on water, get you past whirlpools (like clampearl from HG/SS), dig underground, ride, etc. and just make the HMs like Surf and Waterfall regular attack moves.

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Rapidash will not burn the people it trust, even in a Pokemon episode and I think the only one with Rapidash in it the girl is on Rapidash back and Ash try to touch it and get burned.

I'd live for cut to be a more useful move, like maybe increase the power and make it a different type.

Rock Smash is most likely not coming back. Generation 5 actually did something right and turned it into a normal TM.

I think Waterfall and Whirlpool are illogical. Waterfall means you create a waterfall and Whirlpool creates a whirlpool. There's a different between being able to swim up/completely avoid and creating it yourself... So they shouldn't return either.

Cut, Strength, Fly and Surf and literally required. However, I would rather have key items that cut and move rocks instead of having to waste a slot of your Pokemon's moveset for a weak, basic move instead of something worthwhile.