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That Zoroark

The Zoroark That Likes Pie....
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  • Seen Jul 31, 2016
This is my shoddy battle team.
Infernape/Life Orb
Blaze/Nature:Adamant/Ev - Att 255 Spd 255
Fake Out
Flare Blitz
Close Combat
Stealth Rock
Has been working well for me but not as well. He always does this: Fake Out+Stealth rock and then faints to something. But when he's alive it's very useful. Looking for another good lead.


Gengar/Lefties
Levitate/Nature:Modest/EV - Sp.att 255 Spd 255
Destiny Bond
Toxic
Protect
Confuse Ray
This thing hasn't done anything for me. Destiny Bond usually fails because the opponent switches and I die to T-tar's Sandstorm.


Starmie/Expert Belt
Natural Cure/Nature:Modest/EV Sp.Att 255 Spd 255
Surf
Thunder Bolt
Psychic
Reflect
Mixed Attacker. People who think Starmie is a bEaSt, You are right. No words.

Tyranitar/Expert Belt
Sand Stream/Nature:Adamant/EV Sp.Def 255 Def 255
Stone Edge
Crunch
Thunder Punch
SuperPower
This thing is my tank. It survived 5 Surfs from No Boost Starmie. BeAsT.

Heracross/Toxic Orb
Guts/Nature:Adamant/EV Spd 255 Att 255
Swords Dance
Facade
Megahorn
Close Combat
This thing sweeped 5 pokes after 2 SD's. Want to keep.

Flygon/Expert Belt
Levitate/Nature:Rash/EV - Sp. att 255 Spd 255
Fire Blast
Draco Meteor
U-Turn
Earthquake
It's not as good as I expected but will do.

So this is my team. Tell me mah weaknesses. Example battle:

Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Soul Dew Clause
iLuvWaffles sent out Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
That Zoroark sent out Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
That Zoroark: same lead 8D
Infernape used Fake Out.
Infernape lost 23% of its health.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Infernape flinched!
---
iLuvWaffles: fakeout
iLuvWaffles: D:
iLuvWaffles: outspeed me
iLuvWaffles: :(
Infernape used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Infernape lost 90% of its health.
That Zoroark's Infernape fainted.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles: 50/50
That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Flygon's attack!
Flygon used Earthquake.
It doesn't affect Gyarados...
---
Flygon used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Gyarados lost 7% of its health.
That Zoroark switched in DeathStar (lvl 100 Starmie).
Gyarados used Dragon Dance.
Gyarados's attack was raised.
Gyarados's speed was raised.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ?).
DeathStar used Thunderbolt.
Electivire's Motor Drive increased its speed!
---
That Zoroark: im guessing you have good experience
iLuvWaffles: suuuuure
Electivire used Ice Punch.
It's not very effective...
DeathStar lost 19% of its health.
DeathStar used Psychic.
Electivire lost 61% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles: wooooow
iLuvWaffles: didnt flying
iLuvWaffles: flygon
That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
Electivire used Thunderpunch.
It doesn't affect Flygon...
---
iLuvWaffles: are
iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOW
That Zoroark: :P
iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Flygon's attack!
Flygon used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Gyarados lost 8% of its health.
That Zoroark switched in DeathStar (lvl 100 Starmie).
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ?).
DeathStar used Thunderbolt.
Electivire's Motor Drive increased its speed!
---
Electivire used Ice Punch.
It's not very effective...
DeathStar lost 20% of its health.
DeathStar was frozen solid!
DeathStar was defrosted!
DeathStar used Reflect.
A barrier was formed!
---
iLuvWaffles: lol 1 turn defrost
iLuvWaffles switched in Rotom-w (lvl 100 Rotom-w).
DeathStar used Psychic.
Rotom-w lost 56% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles: o crap
iLuvWaffles: this things base speed is 115 right
iLuvWaffles: starmie
That Zoroark: lol
iLuvWaffles: i mean
That Zoroark: umm move?
iLuvWaffles: hmmmm
iLuvWaffles: im thinking
That Zoroark: you think alot.
iLuvWaffles switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
---
iLuvWaffles: daaaang
Flygon used Fire Blast.
It's super effective!
Metagross lost 90% of its health.
Metagross used Agility.
Metagross's speed was sharply raised.
---
iLuvWaffles: HAHAHA
iLuvWaffles: COULDA EQ'D
iLuvWaffles: o crap
iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOOW
iLuvWaffles: WHY
iLuvWaffles: DO I HAVE THUNDERPUNCH
iLuvWaffles: ON THIS THING
That Zoroark: i thought you would swich so....
iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOOOOOW
iLuvWaffles: I AM DUMB
That Zoroark switched in DeathStar (lvl 100 Starmie).
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
It's not very effective...
DeathStar lost 19% of its health.
DeathStar's reflect wore off!
---
That Zoroark: :P
Metagross used Thunderpunch.
It's super effective!
DeathStar lost 43% of its health.
That Zoroark's DeathStar fainted.
---
iLuvWaffles: i am dead
That Zoroark switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
A sandstorm brewed!
Metagross used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 52% of its health.
Tyranitar used Crunch.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
iLuvWaffles's Metagross fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
iLuvWaffles switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
That Zoroark switched in Gengar (lvl 100 Gengar ?).
Infernape used Close Combat.
It doesn't affect Gengar...
The sandstorm rages.
Infernape is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Infernape lost 6% of its health.
Gengar is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gengar lost 6% of its health.
---
Infernape used Flare Blitz.
Gengar lost 94% of its health.
That Zoroark's Gengar fainted.
Infernape was hit by recoil!
Infernape lost 31% of its health.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
Infernape is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Infernape lost 6% of its health.
---
That Zoroark: lonnnng battle
That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
Infernape used Close Combat.
Flygon lost 90% of its health.
Infernape's defence was lowered.
Infernape's special defence was lowered.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
Flygon used Draco Meteor.
Infernape lost 4% of its health.
iLuvWaffles's Infernape fainted.
Flygon's special attack was harshly lowered.
The sandstorm rages.
---
iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Flygon's attack!
Flygon is already out. (MoveQueueException That Zoroark)
Flygon used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Gyarados lost 8% of its health.
That Zoroark switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
Gyarados used Waterfall.
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 48% of its health.
That Zoroark's Tyranitar fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
That Zoroark switched in Flygon (lvl 100 Flygon ?).
iLuvWaffles switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Flygon used Draco Meteor.
It's not very effective...
Heatran lost 30% of its health.
Flygon's special attack was harshly lowered.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Flygon used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 70% of its health.
iLuvWaffles's Heatran fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
iLuvWaffles: wow its not scarfed.
iLuvWaffles: ..
iLuvWaffles switched in Rotom-w (lvl 100 Rotom-w).
iLuvWaffles: it's over
Rotom-w makes ground moves miss with Levitate!
Flygon used Earthquake.
Flygon's attack missed!
Rotom-w used Hydro Pump.
Flygon lost 10% of its health.
That Zoroark's Flygon fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
Rotom-w is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-w lost 6% of its health.
---
That Zoroark switched in Heracross (lvl 100 Heracross ?).
That Zoroark: gg
iLuvWaffles: craaaaap
iLuvWaffles: gg
Heracross used Swords Dance.
Heracross's attack was sharply raised.
Rotom-w used Hydro Pump.
Rotom-w's attack missed!
The sandstorm rages.
Heracross is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Heracross lost 6% of its health.
Rotom-w is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-w lost 6% of its health.
Heracross was badly poisoned!
---
iLuvWaffles: OKAAAAY
iLuvWaffles: WOOOOOOOW
iLuvWaffles: GGG
iLuvWaffles: I LOST
iLuvWaffles: WOW IF ONLY I TRICKED
That Zoroark: burn lowers attack
Heracross used Megahorn.
It's not very effective...
Rotom-w lost 31% of its health.
iLuvWaffles's Rotom-w fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
Heracross is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Heracross lost 6% of its health.
Heracross is hurt by poison!
Heracross lost 6% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ?).
Heracross used Close Combat.
Electivire lost 39% of its health.
iLuvWaffles's Electivire fainted.
Heracross's defence was lowered.
Heracross's special defence was lowered.
The sandstorm rages.
Heracross is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Heracross lost 6% of its health.
Heracross is hurt by poison!
Heracross lost 12% of its health.
---
iLuvWaffles switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Heracross's attack!
Heracross used Facade.
Gyarados lost 90% of its health.
iLuvWaffles's Gyarados fainted.
That Zoroark wins!
That Zoroark: yay.
 
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GingerTom

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12
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Changes and comments in RED
BTW I'm fairly new to team rating but I'll give it my best :)

Aerodactyl/Focus Sash
Pressure/Nature:Jolly/EV - Att 252 Spd 252 Hp 6
Stealth Rock
Taunt
Stone Edge/Earthquake
Protect/Stone Edge/Earthquake
Some people say Gen 5 Ruined Aerodactyl as a lead, but I disagree...
You will outspeed nearly all pokes apart from Electrode, Deoxys and Ninjask. However the one to be afraid of is electrode. If he is sent out first (which is doubtful because I have never seen an Electrode lead) hit him with an earthquake, then when he has been dealt with send out your stealth rock and use protect as a use for your pressure ability (mainly for strong moves like Hydro Pump ect. with only 5 pp)



Gengar/Lefties
Levitate/Nature:Modest/EV - Sp.att 252 Spd 252 Hp 4
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Dream Eater
Hypnosis
This is my moveset for my Gengar, I use it to cut peoples flow with a hypnosis and just try to outspeed dark types and hit with a Focus Blast ;)


Starmie/Expert Belt
Natural Cure/Nature:Modest/EV Sp.Att 252 Spd 252 Hp 6
Surf
Thunder Bolt
Psychic
Reflect
If it works don't change it :)

Tyranitar/Expert Belt
Sand Stream/Nature:Adamant/EV Sp.Def 252 Def 252 Hp 6
Stone Edge
Crunch
Thunder Punch
SuperPower
Strong tank :D

Heracross/Toxic Orb
Guts/Nature:Adamant/EV Spd 252 Att 252 Hp 6
Swords Dance
Facade
Megahorn
Close Combat
Again, this is a good moveset :)

Flygon/Choice Scarf
Levitate/Nature:Jolly/EV Atk 252 Spd 252 SpA 6
Earthquake
Outrage
Fire Blast
Stone Edge
I found this on the internets and was like 'this is an awesome moveset :O'
Earthquake and Outrage prove really well as STAB moves and are hard hitting, And Stone Edge and Fire Blast prove good covers who resist/are immune to Outrage/Earthquake (for example Bronzong


Oh and if you are wondering why I have decreased all of your EV's from 255 + 255 to 252 + 252 + 6 it is because of the calculation means that you waste 4 EV's moving one stat upto 255 or something... IDK but there is something important about 252...

It also helps boost a diiferent stat :D
 

PlatinumDude

Nyeh?
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Is this a Gen IV team, or a Gen V team? Anyway, here are my suggestions (Gen IV):

Change Infernape's set to:
-Fake Out
-Stealth Rock
-Overheat/Fire Blast
-Close Combat
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 64 Atk/252 SAtk/192 Spe
Item: Focus Sash

Give this Gengar set a shot. Your current set is too gimmicky, and the suggested set is too risky, since Hypnosis + Dream Eater is easily countered by switching:
-Substitute
-Disable/Pain Split
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb

Make Starmie your Rapid Spinner; Reflect isn't worth it:
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Rapid Spin
-Recover/Ice Beam
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 SDef/252 Spe (if using Recover) or 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe (if using Ice Beam)
Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure

I'd give Flygon the Choice Scarf.

I'd make the most out of Tyranitar's massive movepool with this:
-Flamethrower/Fire Blast
-Ice Beam
-Dark Pulse/Crunch/Thunderbolt/Stone Edge
-Superpower
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 56 Atk/252 SAtk/200 Spe
Item: Expert Belt

If this is Gen V, go with what I suggested, except:

Make Tyranitar your lead:
-Stealth Rock
-Fire Blast
-Crunch
-Ice Beam/Superpower
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/280 SAtk/76 SDef
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream

Replace Flygon with Hydreigon:
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast
-Focus Blast
-U-turn/Dark Pulse
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

With the Gen V, changes, use this Infernape set:
-Overheat/Fire Blast
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot/U-turn
-Stone Edge/Mach Punch
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
 

Vrai

can you feel my heart?
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I'm assuming since he mentioned Shoddy it's Gen IV. :C
 

That Zoroark

The Zoroark That Likes Pie....
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12
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  • Seen Jul 31, 2016
Well, personally I dont like choice scarfs cause you have to switch to make a new move so...
BTW I decided to make infernape a mixape and have a claydol lead.
Claydol/Light Clay
Explosion
Light Screen
Stealth rock
Rapid Spin

I just randomly chose this guy. He's been good in the past day but I see many Metagross leads and leads that explosion just won't OHKO.
 
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Gymnotide

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If you're going to use Claydol as a lead, give him a Choice Band and Trick over Light Screen >_>
Impish with HP and DEF build.
 
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