You make the Card!

ACC-M said:

Heh, I just wikied Nights so I'd know what these cards are talking about. Now to give some advice...

Dreamdrop Fountain: Even with an LP boost like that, you'll still be losing soon. Why? The opponent will have most likely run you over and left you with no LP or you'll be outdecked by that point. Sixty counters is a pretty high tally even when adding one per action, especially during turns when you can't really do anything because you've run out of cards in your hand. If you want to keep the thematic sixty, how about throwing in a certain amount of counters per turn (Say, five each time either player draws a card, which will cause insane gnashing of teeth for Zombie and Big City, both of whom like to draw. And Disk Commander. And... you know, pretty much everyone who utilizes cards with a draw effect. XD) You're still looking at twelve turns. And for the tribute effect, let's do something flashier then life points. Say.... special summon an insane number of monsters? Or how about you keep the conditions as they were, adding in a one-counter addition each time either player draws the card (For a sixty-turn minimum) and make it an instant-win condition. It'll be perfect. I think this card would be the best one, personally....

Dreamdrop Fountain
Continuous Spell
Each time either player draws a card, place three "Dreamdrop Counters" on this card. By tributing this card with 60 Dreamdrop Counters, you win the duel.

Hey, Easter Eggs deserve a little more than a life point boost, yah? As for an idea for the "Ideya" cards, as well as a method to get those one and two-tribute Nightmares out...

Perhaps a little more than a Life Point boost, but not victory. The Dreamdrops only allowed you to use Claris an Elliot.

Red Ideya-Courage
Normal Spell
Special summon one "Visitor-Claris" and one "Visitor-Elliot" from your hand or deck.

This makes sense.

Blue Ideya-Intelligence
Quickplay Spell
When this card is activated, it is added to your opponent's hand. When this card is discarded to the graveyard from your opponent's hand by a card effect you control, draw two cards. You can only activate one "Ideya" card per turn.

I think this may end up limited.

Hmm... I don't know, intelligence is more knowing than preparing.

Yellow Ideya-Hope (I forget which Ideya is which, so correct me if I'm wrong)
Quickplay Spell
When this card is activated, it is added to your opponent's hand. When this card is discarded from your opponent's hand to the graveyard by a card effect you control, destroy a monster on the opponent's side of the field. You can only activate one "Ideya" card per turn.

Nah, hope doesn't get rid of your problem. It empowers you to take care of it.

White Ideya-Whatever the white Ideya Is (See what I mean?)
Quickplay Spell
When this card is activated, it is added to your opponent's hand. When this card is discarded from your opponent's hand to the graveyard by a card effect you control, select one random card in your opponent's hand and discard it. You can only activate one "Ideya" card per turn.

White is purity. This makes sense for purity, too.

Green Ideya-Growth
Quickplay Spell
When this card is actiavted, it is added to your opponent's hand. When this card is discarded from your opponent's hand by a card effect you control, special summon one "Level 2 Nightmaren" monster from your hand or deck. Monsters summoned by this card's effect cannot attack on the turn they are summoned. You can only activate one "Ideya" card per turn.

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ACC-M said:

As for dreamdrop fountain... well, a monster swarm is my other idea. Perhaps special summoning several "NiGHTS" and friends? :3

Anyway.... the deck's strategy is a little fragmented because we're trying to combine the good guys and bad guys into one, solid strategy. Perhaps make two opposing decks, each with a different strategy? Like a swarm deck for NiGHTS for example, and the Ideya discard bonus for Wizeman and the rest.

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Waker of Chaos said:

First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 1850 DEF 1300
When you Normal Summon this card, select 1 "Red Ideya of Courage" from your Deck and add it to your hand. When this card is shuffled back into your Deck to Special Summon a Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck that lists this card as a Fusion Material Monster, when the Special Summoned Fusion Monster is removed from the field, Special Summon this card from your Deck in Attack Position. This card cannot be destroyed by battle. Only 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS" can exist on the field at a time, except by the effect of "Double Dualization".

First-Level Nightmaren - Reala
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 1800 DEF 1300
When you Normal Summon this card, your opponent discards 1 "Ideya" card from his or her hand, other than "Red Ideya of Courage", unless "Red Ideya of Courage" is the only "Ideya" card in your opponent's hand. When this card is destroyed by battle, by discarding 1 card from your hand during your next Standby Phase, you can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. Only 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - Reala" can exist on the field at a time.

Creator of Nightmare - Wizeman
DARK Fiend-Type/Effect
Level 8 ATK 2900 DEF 1700
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 1 "Level 1 Nightmaren - Reala" and 2 "Level 2 Nightmaren" monsters you control. This card cannot be destroyed, except by battle. Once per turn, you can select and activate up to 2 of these effects. • Select 1 "Level 1 Nightmaren - NiGHTS" and control it until the end of this turn. • Special Summon 1 "Nightmaren" monster, other than "Level 1 Nightmaren - NiGHTS", from your hand, Deck, or Removed Zone. • Your opponent randomly discards 1 "Ideya" card from his or her hand.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Queen Bella
DARK Insect-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2300 DEF 1000
This card is cannot be destroyed by battle the first time it battles each turn.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Girania
DARK Rock-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2300 DEF 1000
This card's Type is also treated as Fish-Type. When this card is destroyed by battle, Special Summon as many "Girania Balloon Tokens" as possible in Attack Position, however you cannot Special Summon more "Girania Balloon Tokens" than those that were remaining at the End Phase of the turn they were Special Summoned. During the End Phase of the turn you Special Summoned "Girania Balloon Tokens", destroy the remaining ones and Special Summon this card in Defense Position from your Graveyard or Removed Zone.

Girania Balloon Token
DARK Rock-Type
Level 1 ATK 0 DEF 0
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Second-Level Nightmaren - Girania". This Token's Type is also treated as Fish-Type.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Donbalon
DARK Fiend-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2300 DEF 1000
When this card would be destroyed by battle, place it in your Spell & Trap Card Zone face-up; it is treated as a Continuous Trap Card. If this card is face-up in your Spell & Trap Card when your opponent attacks directly, Special Summon this card from your Spell & Trap Card Zone in Attack Position, and redirect that attack to this card. This effect can only be used three times. After the third time these effects are used, this card's effects are negated.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Chamelan
DARK Reptile-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 0 DEF 2300
When this card is Summoned or flipped face-up, remove it from play. When your opponent declares a direct attack, Special Summon this card from your Removed Zone and destroy the attacking monster. If this card battles in the same turn it was Special Summoned by this effect, destroy this card.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Cerberus
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 7 ATK 2500 DEF 1000
This card's Type is also treated as Thunder-Type. This card cannot exist in the far-left nor far-right Monster Card Zone. When this card is Summoned or flipped face-up, destroy any monsters you control that occupy Monster Card Zones adjacent to this card, and Special Summon 1 "Nightmaren - Fire Cerberus Token" and 1 "Nightmaren - Ice Cerberus Token" to the Monster Card Zones adjacent to this card in Attack Position. If your opponent's monster declares an attack on this card, up to twice per turn, redirect that attack to a "Cerberus Token". When this card is destroyed, destroy all "Cerberus Tokens" you control.

Nightmaren - Fire Cerberus Token
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 7 ATK 2500 DEF 1000
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Level 2 Nightmaren - Cerberus". This Token must attack whenever possible, but cannot attack directly. This Token's Attribute is also treated as FIRE.

Nightmaren - Ice Cerberus Token
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 7 ATK 2500 DEF 1000
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Level 2 Nightmaren - Cerberus". This Token must attack whenever possible, but cannot attack directly. This Token's Attribute is also treated as WATER.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Bomamba
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2200 DEF 1400
When this card is Summoned or flipped face-up, destroy all monsters you control other than this card, then Special Summon as many "Nightmaren - Cat Tokens" in Attack Position as possible. Your opponent's monsters cannot attack this card. Destroy this card when you do not control any "Nightmaren - Cat Tokens".

Nightmaren - Cat Token
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 1 ATK 1000 DEF 0
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Second-Level Nightmaren - Bomamba". This card cannot be attacked by an opponent's monster in the same column as this card. When your opponent's monster attacks this card, activate one of these effects based on how far apart this Token and the attacking monster are. • 1 column apart: This card will not be destroyed by battle by this attack. • 2 columns apart: Switch this card's battle position. • 3 columns apart: If the ATK of the attacking monster is higher than this Token's DEF, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to yourself. • 4 columns apart: Destroy this card and take damage equal to the ATK of the attacking monster.

Dreamdrop Fountain
Continuous Spell
When a player activates a Spell or Trap Card, or the effect of an Effect Monster, or Summons or Sets a monster, place 1 Dreamdrop Counter on this card. When a player draws card(s) from his or her Deck, place 5 Dreamdrop counters on this card. During your Main Phase, you can send this card with 60 Dreamdrop Counters to the Graveyard to gain 10,000 Life Points. This card cannot be removed from the field, except by its own effect, while you control a "NiGHTS" monster.

Dolphin Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Dolphin" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "Dolphin NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone.

Rocket Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Rocket" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "Rocket NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone.

Dragon Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Dragon" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "Dragon NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone.

Unmasked Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Nightmaren" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone.

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Frostweaver said:

I'll comment on the 3 new cards without knowing what the heck is going on.

Bad idea.

Dolphin Nights- and no one uses those 2 fields... if the original effect is to go underwater, we can imitate this in YGO by giving it an effect that can remove itself from play, then special summon it back to the field next turn. This way, at least it has some protection and somewhat reflects its original ability. It is still a horrible Nomi but at least slightly better than now... A stat boost will work, let's say 2000 or higher. At least we can use a virus on it then (but still crappy.)

No, we can't imitate this in Yu-Gi-Oh! by removing it from play. Look at "The Legendary Fisherman" and "Guardian Kay'est". Now look at cards like "Dark Magician of Chaos" and "Miraculous Descent". Being removed from play is like being sent to heaven, not going underwater. Also, Dolphin NiGHTS was no more powerful than NiGHTS without a Persona, so I won't up the ATK or DEF at all. And by the way, those aren't the only cards that work with DARK, WATER, Spellcaster-Type, and/or Fish-Type monsters. I was just giving them as an example.

Rocket Nights- fair enough I guess... though of course, not playable >_<; I'll suggest changing its level to 5 or 6 (not that it really matters too much since it's a Nomi) and boost its stats... or give it an attack changing ability similar to steamroid to demonstrate its destructive yet uncontrollable attack power.

Dragon NiGHTS is more powerful than Rocket NiGHTS when using a Dash. Also, NiGHTS never increased or decreased any sort of Level in the game. It was solely a matter of scoring enough points to get your A Rank so you wouldn't have to come back to that particular level in the stage, unless it was for Dreamdrops or fun. The ATK changing effect might work, but it wouldn't be weakened when attacked like "Steamroid" would be.

Dragon Nights- if you think Raiza is bad, don't look at necroface nowadays ><; It's a nice little sprinkle to be immune to Raiza though. The atk negating thing is a bit silly, since it's too late to dodge traps with it. Due to chain order, it can't even dodge shrink/rush recklessly that's used in damage step either... The only use I can think of is flipping cards faceup without wasting attack turn, but by then the flip effect already goes through which makes it bleh...

"Raiza the Storm Monarch" is something I'm tired of seeing. "Necroface" is not; it's interesting. Also, the Battle Phase effect is Spell Speed 2, and I can always add a line that says, "If your opponent activated any cards or effects of cards, negate them".

Sigh must we make them Nomi... how about at least cutting out the middle man and just make it "This card cannot be normal summoned or set. This card can only be special summoned by tributing a _____ on your side of the field."? It's still going to make them horrible but at least save 1 on the CA X_x;

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Waker of Chaos said:

First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 1850 DEF 1300
When you Normal Summon this card, select 1 "Red Ideya of Courage" from your Deck and add it to your hand. When this card is shuffled back into your Deck to Special Summon a Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck that lists this card as a Fusion Material Monster, when the Special Summoned Fusion Monster is removed from the field, Special Summon this card from your Deck in Attack Position. This card cannot be destroyed by battle. Only 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS" can exist on the field at a time, except by the effect of "Double Dualization".

First-Level Nightmaren - Reala
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 1800 DEF 1300
When you Normal Summon this card, your opponent discards 1 "Ideya" card from his or her hand, other than "Red Ideya of Courage", unless "Red Ideya of Courage" is the only "Ideya" card in your opponent's hand. When this card is destroyed by battle, by discarding 1 card from your hand during your next Standby Phase, you can Special Summon this card from your Graveyard. Only 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - Reala" can exist on the field at a time.

Creator of Nightmare - Wizeman
DARK Fiend-Type/Effect
Level 8 ATK 2900 DEF 1700
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - Reala" and 2 "Second-Level Nightmaren" monsters you control. This card cannot be destroyed, except by battle. Once per turn, you can select and activate up to 2 of these effects. • Select 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS" and control it until the end of this turn. • Special Summon 1 "Nightmaren" monster, other than "First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS", from your hand, Deck, or Removed Zone. • Your opponent randomly discards 1 "Ideya" card from his or her hand.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Queen Bella
DARK Insect-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2300 DEF 1000
This card is cannot be destroyed by battle the first time it battles each turn.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Girania
DARK Rock-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2300 DEF 1000
This card's Type is also treated as Fish-Type. When this card is destroyed by battle, Special Summon as many "Girania Balloon Tokens" as possible in Attack Position, however you cannot Special Summon more "Girania Balloon Tokens" than those that were remaining at the End Phase of the turn they were Special Summoned. During the End Phase of the turn you Special Summoned "Girania Balloon Tokens", destroy the remaining ones and Special Summon this card in Defense Position from your Graveyard or Removed Zone.

Girania Balloon Token
DARK Rock-Type
Level 1 ATK 0 DEF 0
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Second-Level Nightmaren - Girania". This Token's Type is also treated as Fish-Type.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Donbalon
DARK Fiend-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2300 DEF 1000
When this card would be destroyed by battle, place it in your Spell & Trap Card Zone face-up; it is treated as a Continuous Trap Card. If this card is face-up in your Spell & Trap Card when your opponent attacks directly, Special Summon this card from your Spell & Trap Card Zone in Attack Position, and redirect that attack to this card. This effect can only be used three times. After the third time these effects are used, this card's effects are negated.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Chamelan
DARK Reptile-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 0 DEF 2300
When this card is Summoned or flipped face-up, remove it from play. When your opponent declares a direct attack, Special Summon this card from your Removed Zone and destroy the attacking monster. If this card battles in the same turn it was Special Summoned by this effect, destroy this card.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Cerberus
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 7 ATK 2500 DEF 1000
This card's Type is also treated as Thunder-Type. This card cannot exist in the far-left nor far-right Monster Card Zone. When this card is Summoned or flipped face-up, destroy any monsters you control that occupy Monster Card Zones adjacent to this card, and Special Summon 1 "Nightmaren - Fire Cerberus Token" and 1 "Nightmaren - Ice Cerberus Token" to the Monster Card Zones adjacent to this card in Attack Position. If your opponent's monster declares an attack on this card, up to twice per turn, redirect that attack to a "Cerberus Token". When this card is destroyed, destroy all "Cerberus Tokens" you control.

Nightmaren - Fire Cerberus Token
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 7 ATK 2500 DEF 1000
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Level 2 Nightmaren - Cerberus". This Token must attack whenever possible, but cannot attack directly. This Token's Attribute is also treated as FIRE.

Nightmaren - Ice Cerberus Token
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 7 ATK 2500 DEF 1000
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Level 2 Nightmaren - Cerberus". This Token must attack whenever possible, but cannot attack directly. This Token's Attribute is also treated as WATER.

Second-Level Nightmaren - Bomamba
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 6 ATK 2200 DEF 1400
When this card is Summoned or flipped face-up, destroy all monsters you control other than this card, then Special Summon as many "Nightmaren - Cat Tokens" in Attack Position as possible. Your opponent's monsters cannot attack this card. Destroy this card when you do not control any "Nightmaren - Cat Tokens".

Nightmaren - Cat Token
DARK Beast-Type/Effect
Level 1 ATK 1000 DEF 0
This Token is Special Summoned by the effect of "Second-Level Nightmaren - Bomamba". This card cannot be attacked by an opponent's monster in the same column as this card. When your opponent's monster attacks this card, activate one of these effects based on how far apart this Token and the attacking monster are. • 1 column apart: This card will not be destroyed by battle by this attack. • 2 columns apart: Switch this card's battle position. • 3 columns apart: If the ATK of the attacking monster is higher than this Token's DEF, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to yourself. • 4 columns apart: Destroy this card and take damage equal to the ATK of the attacking monster.

Dreamdrop Fountain
Continuous Spell
When a player activates a Spell or Trap Card, or the effect of an Effect Monster, or Summons or Sets a monster, place 1 Dreamdrop Counter on this card. When a player draws card(s) from his or her Deck, place 5 Dreamdrop counters on this card. During your Main Phase, you can send this card with 60 Dreamdrop Counters to the Graveyard to gain 10,000 Life Points. This card cannot be removed from the field, except by its own effect, while you control a "NiGHTS" monster.

Dolphin Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Dolphin" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "Dolphin NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone. Shuffle this card back into your Deck after it resolves instead of sending it to the Graveyard.

Rocket Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Rocket" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "Rocket NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone. Shuffle this card back into your Deck after it resolves instead of sending it to the Graveyard.

Dragon Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Dragon" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "Dragon NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone. Shuffle this card back into your Deck after it resolves instead of sending it to the Graveyard.

Unmasked Persona
Normal Spell
Activate by shuffling one "NiGHTS" monster that does not include "Nightmaren" in its name into your Deck. Special Summon 1 "First-Level Nightmaren - NiGHTS" from your hand, Deck, Graveyard, or Removed Zone. Shuffle this card back into your Deck after it resolves instead of sending it to the Graveyard.

Dolphin NiGHTS
WATER Fish-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 1850 DEF 1300
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned, except by the effect of "Dolphin Persona". This card is also treated as a DARK Spellcaster-Type monster.

Rocket NiGHTS
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 2000 DEF 1100
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned, except by the effect of "Rocket Persona". This card's Type is also treated as Machine-Type. When this card attacks, it gains 600 ATK until the end of the Damage Step.

Dragon NiGHTS
DARK Spellcaster-Type/Effect
Level 4 ATK 2400 DEF 1600
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned, except by the effect of "Dragon Persona". This card's Type is also treated as Dragon-Type. This card is unaffected by the effects of WIND monsters. Once per Damage Step, if this card attacks, you may negate that attack. If you do this, this card can attack again during that Battle Phase, and all other cards and effects that were activated from the start of the Battle Step in which this card attacked, until the resolution of this card's effect, are negated. This effect cannot be Chained to.

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Frostweaver said:

To fully imitate full aspect of a game and transport it to YGO while maintaining to be usable is impossible... and thus why there needs to be compensation of the card effects. We have to draw a line between what effect we can imitate in a children's card game, and what effect is carrying it too far to be so specific, situational, and makes no sense except to the creator itself (similar to the anime cards ^_^).

Well, the creator is really the only one who needs to understand it. The opponent doesn't have to. He only has to deal with it to the best of his and his Deck's ability. To be honest, I don't see anything as "too far". "Not far enough", perhaps, but never "too far".

Back awhile ago, it's not like we carry every FF concepts we can imagine when we create imitations of say, Squall. "ZOMG How come Squall can't attack 8 times to represent the ultimate power of Lionheart limit break?" We compensate it by taking stuff out of him, and just maintain a few characteristics of him in his original game and make it a reasonably playable card in YGO.

If I were to make a Squall card, his effect would be to flip a coin whenever he declared an attack. If you call it right, he gets an extra so-and-so ATK. This would mimic the trigger control on his gunblade you could do in the game. As for Renzokuken, I'd make that a Spell Card, and the Renzokuken finishers Quick-Play Spells to Chain to it.

Afterall, this is "Other Card" forum first, and "Other Games" later... the card is the main focus here, while the theme borrowed from another game is just something to muse on. Not everyone plays FF here, but we can still rate and muse of it as long as we know some basic rules to a children's card game, because that's the main platform we are talking about. Likewise, it's the same case here.

I have my own way of doing things. I don't care if you accept that or not, as it's not really my concern what your opinion is. The same would go for President Bush, any administrator here, or even my own family.

Think it's not just PC, but most Create a Fake YGO Card forum/contests strive to create cards that are at least considerable in using them in the real card game, and just imagine how will they be to be incorporated in a fake deck and so on.

But this is no contest, so I don't have to make the cards realistically usable. I just have to make them good enough for a fanfic I might write, or a roleplay I might join.

(of course joke cards like all of those OMG A GIANT ROCK! things are hugely exaggerated, with broken/unfair rules that may involve breaking down the 4th wall, but that's joke cards)

I know nothing on the nightmarens or the origin of their game, and I think I'll stay ignorant about them, but I can always comment on them because they are now made into a children's card game, and I know some things about that one.

If you don't know anything about where my cards come from, then don't comment on them. That's my only request.

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I'm not sure how we get heaven theme from RFG... I'm pretty sure RFG is just what it is: removed from game, and I don't take much "meaning" to try to force derive something out of it (I'll leave that to the English Major students to do it.) If they're not in game, I just treat them as "somewhere out there that's not in the field and potentially not dead." Hey Submarineroid represents a submarine going under water, and what's so submerging about switching to defense mode to tank attacks? Not really any connection there on a physical/literal level, but in a children's card game, that type of thing is usually the best we can do to somewhat make out a theme, yet keeps playability to a reasonable level (and usually, still a bit on the low side too.)

The Removed Zone is like heaven because of cards with certain effects. "Miraculous Descent", for example, is just like a "Call of the Haunted", but for a Fairy-Type monster that's removed from play. In other words, it's an angel descending from heaven. In Japan, they don't call them Fairy-Type and Fiend-Type monsters. They call them Angel-Type and Demon-Type monsters. For this reason, the Removed Zone can be seen as heaven. It can also be seen as "the Different Dimension", referencing cards like "D.D. Warrior Lady". In Yu-Gi-Oh! GX, during the Yubel saga, it is made clear that there are 12 dimensions of space, and the Removed Zone can represent any of the 11 you aren't Dueling in.

As for raiza, it's all perspective... to the japanese, raiza is a lot weaker/newer than necroface has ever been to their totally different lives u_u; and same for us fellow people who only play the GBA/DS games because we're horribly cheap. (well technically, both necroface and monarch are inexistantly weak to the japanese too... but to anywhere else, monarch is one of the top tier theme all the time due to the much smaller card pool. In order to dream of what world is like with a bigger card pool like that, we make usable fake cards!)

I'm not Japanese, though, and I don't often play in groups. Therefore, I don't really care. All I know is that I'm sick of "Monarch" monsters, but "Necroface" is interesting to me.

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On another side note, to throw in a random card to keep things on topic:
Guess I'll also quote from some game source that not many people will know of.

Puyo Puyo!
Normal Spell

You may show this card to your opponent and send it to the graveyard. When there is 3 of this card in your graveyard, shuffle all copies of "Puyo Puyo!" from your graveyard to your deck and activate one of the following effects.
-Special summon a fusion monster with "Ojama" in its name on your side of the field, ignoring summoning conditions.
-Special summon "Ojama Black," "Ojama Green" and "Ojama Yellow" from your graveyard to your side of the field.

First, use a bullet instead of a dash. This can be done by holding down the Alt key, then pressing 7 on the number pad, then releasing Alt. Besides that, you can just say, "Send this card from your hand to the Graveyard". I'll show you below.

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ACC-M said:

Eh, just remember that in my roleplay your character can't be extremely good at card games and still use a deck that's bad from a YGO standpoint. Nomis, etc., are allowed, but horrible decks being given to characters who are supposed to be extremely good according to the creator are frowned upon. Characters who are supposedly rank amateurs, on the other hand, can get away with 'silly' decks like the NiGHTS Persona-grabbing deck. I really don't have a problem with nomi cards if that's taken into consideration. (Actually, it would be fun to give Achan some company since he's practically in the same boat and has won more duels on blind luck then real skill).

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kohei said:

Substitution!
Normal Spell

Select 1 card from your Deck, 1 card from your Side Deck, and show it to your opponent. Put the card you selected from your Deck into your Side Deck, then put the card you selected from your Side Deck into your Deck. Shuffle your Deck afterwards.
(Not sure if something along the lines of "swap the cards" is good enough.
Gotta be careful when wording cards...)


Mermaid Call
Normal Spell

Special Summon 1 "Amazon of the Seas", "Red Archery Girl", "Ice Water", "Guardian Kay'est" or a monster with "Mermaid" in its name from your hand or Deck.
(May have missed some mermaids... please point it out, thanks.)

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Waker of Chaos said:

"Guardian Kay'est" is my only problem with "Mermaid Call". Her own effect states that she can't be Summoned unless you control "Rod of Silence - Kay'est". Also, "Toon Mermaid" cannot be Normal Summoned or Set, and can't be Special Summoned unless you control "Toon World".

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kohei said:

Point taken. Guess I'll give up on Kay'est and Toon Mermaid.

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Waker of Chaos said:

Not necessarily.

Mermaid Call
Normal Spell
Special Summon 1 "Amazon of the Seas", "Guardian Kay'est", "Red Archery Girl", "Ice Water", or "Mermaid" monster from your Deck, ignoring Summoning conditions.

I'd like a scan of "Ice Water", however.

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ACC-M said:

Just a random card I'd like to interject that may or may not play a role in a "Heart of the Cards-y" moment in CARD GAMES at some point in the near or far future...

Ultimate Tornado Blast
Normal Trap
Activate only when a monster is special summoned by your opponent. Destroy all monsters on the field.

Basically a more restrictive special summon-based Torrential Tribute. I forget if the original includes special summoning in its criterion so if it does just ignore this card. :3

Yes it does.

The Ultimate NEPTUNE
Monster/Light/Fairy/Effect/7*
Atk 2900/ Def 1400
When this monster is tribute summoned, no other monster can be special summoned until it is removed from the field.

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