Nintendo DS Music Hacking [LOOPING INCLUDED, FULLY EXPLAINED]

OMG! IT'S BLACK MAGIC!!! Can you explain that with pictures or movie, please? I just want to put some music into game... I can't understand any of this part ;/

I Know how to extract the song from NDS, so that is only first point. Then I don't know what to do, how to import it into game. Do I really have to change the music with programs you used in tutorial? What if I want just put my music, without changing it? Just extract, replace files, import and play.
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I want to do this:
Replace normal trainer battle music for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VU6NcExcAU
Replace Rival battle music for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulkDzzSF_Ss&feature=related
Replace N battle music for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ruYfRBa7tQ
Replace team Plasma battle music for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3yc7qBrhvk
Replace Ghetsis battle music for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUGjKmP2aY
Maybe could you explain me how to do certain moves to replace that or maybe could you do that for me in pokemon White? I really can't understand this ;/

Team Fail said:

Well, you can use any MIDI editor of your choice that supports .DLS files, but FL Studio has a lot of features as well as plugin support. As for extracting, replacing and playing, it's not as simple. Not all songs are made the same way. That's why if you replace songs with another, it won't sound right. If you're lucky, it might, but it depends. It will usually require some kind of effort to get your music just right.

And if you want to replace those songs you listed, you will need MIDI versions. You cannot use MP3s. And I cannot stress that enough.

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OK, thanks, I will try to do something with that.

I dont know why but when I try to convert my midi with the new midi2sseq file it says that my midi is corrupted? This happened after I looped in Anvil Studio.
Can you help me out with this? I have used another midi and it says the same thing.

Team Fail said:

Does it still give you a .sseq file?

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Sadly No, it doesn't even give me an sseq file for the non looped midis. I must be doing the command prompt wrong, so can you explain how to do it specifically?
Also, the older midi2sseq file works with the NON looped midis, but not with the looped ones.

Team Fail said:

Yeah. That's why I recommend using the new one. Try re-exporting your original MIDI and try looping it again. Be sure you're using the proper commands too.

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Yep tried it again. Didn't work... I definitely did the right command prompt. It says that the midi is corrupted even when I re-exported it and looped it using your guide.
I dont know if this is too much to ask but can you try converting and looping it it for me? Maybe you could figure out how to avoid the corruption.
here's the download link: http://www.filefactory.com/file/3qi8so5jvp9p/n/Rival_battle_RSE_mid
Id greatly appreciate if you could do it, but if the problem happens to u don't worry about it.

There is a question I have about editing the .midis in FL Studio. I notice some tracks have more than one instrument playing in 1 track. Is it possible to change the instruments for both of them? If so, how?

Also, people use the HGSS and BW Soundfonts in FL Studio. Is that required to make your .midis sound good in-game after converting to .sseq? The .dls files don't seem to help me at all when it comes to changing the song's instruments.

I don't mean to be annoying but have you downloaded my midi and tried to loop it? Because I still have the same trouble with different midis now

Team Fail said:

I tried looping it and had no problems at all. All I did was add the loop information. Are you sure you're adding the loop information correctly?

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Really? It worked? Hmm... I must be doing the looping wrong somehow. I have followed all your steps on how to loop, but i don't know where I went wrong. Did you convert my midi into an sseq file? If so, can I have it back because I want to change the music in my game. Thanks.
Ok I'l try again and see if I can figure out how to make it work properly. Maybe if you put pictures on how to loop on Anvil Studio, then maybe that will help me and even the Command prompt bit because I do not fully understand that.

Team Fail said:

When in FL studio, there is an option to change the patch of the instrument when in the keyboard view. That's where you can toggle instruments on a track. As for DLS files, they contain the game's sound samples, and if you don't have them, you'd better have a good memory. The DLS files extracted vary from game to game as well.

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Yeah, your right. The .dls files are necessary. However, I had to manually change the notes to the channels with the corresponding instruments. If this works with the midis from RSE (as commonly), then the last thing that I will have to put into practice is the loop.

Anyways, I give you my thanks for your reply. It gave me crucial answers to other questions that I was about to ask. I'll be back if anything happens.

Thanks heaps mate, I appreciate it.

Thanks TF, I'm gonna give this a shot. If I can replace my BW battle music with "Love-Colored Master Spark" I'll be a very happy man.

I'm back. Anyways, there's something that's confusing me here. After repacking the SDAT Folder, many keep suggesting to use CT2 or PPRE rather than Nitro Explorer to insert the .sdat file. Do those 2 programs have something that Nitro Explorer doesn't have?

Team Fail said:

CT2 is buggy in the fact that it cannot replace a file if it's larger than what the target is. Even if it's just one byte, it will complain that it cannot insert it because it's too large. I'd use PPRE mostly because it rips the rom apart, then reassembles it, regardless of any size limitations.

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Understood. Thanks dude.

Speaking of SDATs, there is a funny question I have. Is it possible to insert music data (.sseq, .sbnk, .swar) from a different game into the SDAT folder? For example, say we have the Pokémon White SDAT folder. If I wanted to change the Elite Four theme with a song from a different game like say... the Jungle stage from Contra 4 (which also uses the SDAT system), would taking the song data from its SDAT folder and putting it into the Pokémon White SDAT folder allow it to work in-game?

I was wondering if you could provide a different mirror for the Music Hack Pack, because the download link currently up isn't working for me.

Edit: Ah, just read back on the thread. Any idea when you'll be making the new tutorial yet?

I've been trying to music hack for a while, but I've failed... every time. The problem I'm currently facing is that when I repack the files into the .sdat (using the kiwi editor), everything is jumbled up. I found out that it was because kiwi repacks them in alphabetical order and then renames all the files according to how they were listed originally in the rom. The only method I found to fixing this was renaming all the files with numbers according to their original listing, but that's way too much work, especially with a game like BW (there are like 800 sseqs!)

Can you help?

Tuto Is done well, I managed to make:p thank you

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hey team fail. I don't know if you already knew this but if you export a sseq file directly from another ROM for example Platinum and convert it into a midi, it keeps the loop point. This doesn't really help learning how to loop, but some people can just edit an already looped midi and convert then insert it into a ROM without having to loop it again.

^Sorry, my bad. The MIDI does lose its data. Anyways, this guy here knows how to change instruments directly of an SSEQ file from a DPPt/HGSS Rom. It also keeps the loop as an added bonus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPZbEG92tV8&feature=channel&list=UL

I know this way would be easier, but it so confusing for me. The part Im mostly confused about is the looping part, since you don't really explain well on how to do it. And it doesn't work for me, since when I try to convert the MIDI I looped according to your instructions, it doesn't even give me an SSEQ file from MIDI2SSEQ. I suggest updating the Tutorial for newcomers to understand it properly. I don't know, maybe add some screens? Or maybe a vid?
But I do give you my thanks for starting it in the first place. Ill probably try the other method of changing instruments from an SSEQ file, but you wouldn't happen to know what the instrument Hex numbers are, would you?

I have a question on music hacking. There's a certain music file in the B/W .sdat file that's not looped yet (I don't think it's used in the game but I'm not sure). However, I want to have it looped because I would like to use it (it's an encounter music). Where do I have to start? Is it possible to loop a .sseq file without having the .midi file?

The .sseq file I'm talking about is 093-SEQ_BGM_E_INISHIE.sseq.