5th Gen The Trubbish line and the Vanillite line: Why all the hate?

darkredwing said:

I don't mind Trubbish, and personally love Vanillite. But people hate them for the same reasons they hate the Litwick line, Chingling and Klefki because they're based off of objects instead of animals... but yet at the same time I haven't heard anyone really hate Honedge

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And yet pokemon have been based off objects science gen 1

Ohh I've had this conversation so many times...

Hate is a strong word but, I'm definitely not a fan. To clarify, I don't think they're running out of ideas, because in all honesty I really think they upped the ante in creativity with the Gen V designs. But there's a few reasons I don't like these two evolutionary lines.

For one, they are pretty poorly designed IMO. This has nothing to do with what they are (garbage and ice cream), but the design. To put it bluntly, they don't look like Pokemon. As a demonstration of what I mean, imagine this: imagine you had seen them before you had any knowledge of Gen V, and no context. Would you even guess that they were Pokemon? My first thought when I see them is "ice cream cone/garbage heap with a face", not "ice cream Pokemon/garbage heap Pokemon". Compare that to Zoroark. Immediately recognizable as a Pokemon.

Another thing is the concepts. Garbage and ice cream just aren't very interesting things to anthropomorphize. Of course, they're not the only offenders in this regard (looking at you, Mr. Gen I floating rock with arms).

And of course, there's their evolution. Trubbish goes from garbage to more garbage, and Vanillite goes from ice cream cone, to bigger ice cream cone, to bigger ice cream cone with two scoops. Blegh...they I know they could have thought of something better. Again they're not the only offenders, but I think it made a bit more sense with Magneton, because when a Magnemite gets strong enough its magnet pulls in other Magnemites.

I think the biggest one is the first one--they just don't look like Pokemon. But they can't be all perfect. For having designed over 718 of them, I think they've done a darn good job making most of them creative and interesting :)

pokemon hack said:

And yet pokemon have been based off objects science gen 1

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Indeed plenty of gen 1 pokemon get hate for poor designs... It just seems like more of it is aimed at gens 4-6 because people like clinging onto the the idea that they're running out of designs, plus people like to pretend that old things are always better no matter how flawed.

The concept is boring but trubbish and garbador are pretty good at poisoning me, nuff said.

Ok, so despite the fact that everything I previously said stands, Vanillite has officially grown on me. It's cute :3

I understand this thread. I started the "least favourite Pokémon" thread, and a lot of people have said trubbish.
I think that there is one thing that everyone can like about a Pokémon, even their least favourite. For me, I like trubbish for his sounds. trub trub trub.
Vanilite is just so adorabl.

I don't mind either of these pokemon. They don't seem all that bad to me. There are worse than these two. Plus I think Vanillite is cute. It's based off of ice cream after all.

I don't mind Trubbish. Vanillite though, just comes off as lazy to me.
It's literally just an ice cream with eyes.

Because everyone wants every single Pokemon to be a sparkling cute fox mouse.

I just flat out dont understand the hate.
Maybe they are think its too childish?