4th Gen Who Is The Hardest gym Leader In HG/SS?

Either Clair or Chuck, because I'm almost always underleveled.

cacturne4512 said:

Either Clair or Chuck, because I'm almost always underleveled.

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Chuck is so easy to beat with a Xatu, I used one and she like swept his whole team with Pluck.

i thought whitney and chuck no- i mean chuck was pretty hard

miltank was a staller that i ran out of pp
chuck's poliwrath wiped out almost my whole team until...
now was it pidgeot?

I've never had any particular trouble with Whitney and her Miltank. My biggest problem is Bugsy. At that stage in the game, there's not much in the way of Fire or Flying-types. Hoothoot and Pidgey are all very well, but that Scyther hits so hard that it doesn't matter. Arceus help you if you started with Chikorita, and even if you had a Totodile it was tricky enough. That Scyther just bounces around the field with its U-Turn.

Clair was horribly difficult too, but by that stage of the game there were plenty of options so it wasn't so bad.

Clair, only because of her Kingdra. Other than that I don't normally have many problems with any other gym leader really...

I definitely found Claire the most difficult, much for the same reasons that I'm stuck on Lance in the League. I have nothing that's good against Dragons except a Gyarados that knows Avalanche. That worked okay-ish for Claire though.

Second to her is definitely Morty, though.

like most people here, i'd have to go with that miltank! mostly because i wasn't expecting that annoying milk drink. and because at the time, ALL my pokemon were male, so they all fell prey to attract. she was the only trainer i lost to.

Witney imo, she keeps killing my mid 20s team

Although I voted for Clair , there really isn't a "hardest" gym leader unless you really train your pokemon alot .

for me, it was Whitney, because of Miltank

I would have to say Claire. However I found if you use a Pokemon on the normal type side, you can defeat her with ease. With the MooMoo milk? I just make sure my pokemon is much faster, because by the time she takes her turn to heal her Miltank, you've already moved in for the KO and her Miltank is down.

With Whitney's Miltank, I just spammed fly. It's like, super effective because not only does roll-out miss, but you hit with a very powerful attack from above.

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But isn't Fly a HM you can obtain well after Whitney's gym? =p

bobandbill said:

But isn't Fly a HM you can obtain well after Whitney's gym? =p

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Possibly.... wow I feel stupid now lol. I could have sworn I used fly on her Miltank.... =/ hm
I fixed my post =D

Jasmine, I still can't beat her. :l

Whitney. Honestly, Claire was pretty easy. My Gyarados had Dragon Rage, Twister, and Ice Fang. I also got a Dratini at the Game Corner early on.

Whitney for sure. Even in the originals, her miltank's rollout was a major pissoff against my quilava and rest of my team. Using super potions meant nothing after her rollout built up over time...

having just beaten claire, i'd say she comes close after whitney... or possibly on the same level, simply because i don't really have many good pokemon against dragon type, and ice moves weren't that effective on all of them!

Clair was the hardest for me. When I got there my team were around the 36, 37's while her Kingdra was 41. I had to restart 5 times before beating her off a critical hit. Chuck was hard for me as well with his Poliwrath.

Whitney has always been the hardest gym leader for me due to her darn Miltank :/
It was just overpowered :/