Wibbly wobbly timey wimey... DOCTOR WHO Fan Club

WhiteKnightL said:

As I mentioned, I read up on it and something came to mind.

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If all this time Gallifrey was just hidden and not Time Locked, does that mean that we can expect The Master to come back? And not just him but Rassilon too? Unless there is something I missed after Tenth's last episode, there's a good chance they could be thrown in to face The Doctor again if he ever finds Gallifrey again.....and I'm certain he will.

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Esper said:

I watched the episode with a bunch of people and we were all really unsure exactly what the timeline was or is now, or really what the Time War is or was or where or where is happened (happens?). Very confusing.

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I was pretty pleased and surprised to see Tom Baker show up there at the end. I don't know how that's supposed to work with everything we know about Doctor Who. I mean... he regenerated and isn't that supposed to be the end of that Doctor? Why is he older now? (I mean, yes, obviously the actor is older and no amount of makeup would help that.)

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zomgitscathy said:

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I thought that was confusing too. But one thing about the Doctor Who Universe, is that they have a record of shamelessly recycling actors to play completely different characters. Freema Agyeman played an extra who died in Doomsday (Adeola), only to come back as a companion to the Doctor in the very next episode (Martha Jones). And the guy who's going to be the 12th Doctor played Caecilius in The Fires of Pompeii, and John Frobisher in The Children of Earth. So it's very likely that this is just one of those "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" things.

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Cherrim said:

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I'd easily buy the whole "reusing actors and not mentioning it" thing except the conversation implies that's not the case, imo. Baker's character clearly knows more than a simple curator should about the painting and its meaning (and what the Doctor is supposed to go do) and the part that really stands out:

[Eleven turns and sees him] "I never forget a face."
"I know you don't, and in years to come you may find yourself revisiting a few."

To me that implies that eventually, the Doctor learns how to control regeneration so well that he can take on the appearance of any of his old bodies. I dunno, exactly, but every line of the conversation just oozes the idea that Baker's character is the Doctor and I don't think it makes any sense if you try to view it another way.

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The Mighty Kamina said:

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I came away with a different interpretation of that scene. I didn't see the curator as a regeneration shifter, but simply as a future incarnation of the Doctor that has retired from adventuring and revisited his old idea that he could be a curator. Yes, that would mean Tom Baker played two separate incarnations of the Doctor, but hey, I'm not objecting to more Baker!

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DavidtheDeadPhilosopher said:

I saw it in theaters and I was enjoying every single minute!

@Cherrim

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Ok, so The End of Time is happening almost at the same time, if not slightly earlier, then the 50th anniversary in Galifrey's point of view. However, it's happening in two entirely different parts of Galifrey, and being controlled by two different powers of Galifrey. The End of Time was in the Citidal and was the plan of the High Counsel, While the 50th took place on Arcadia, the second largest city of Galifrey, and was mainly under power from the War Counsel. They even made a breif mention to the End of Time, stating that the High Counsel had their own plans, and if memory serves me right, they also stated that it already failed, or was fruitless (I'll fact check later).

So basicly End of Time happens before Day of the Doctor, but in the same day, and that's only from Galifrey's perspective. From the Ten's Doctors perspective, he experiences Day of the Doctor, and then goes immediately to The End of Time (However he doesn't remember the events from Day of the Doctor.)

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Tlachtli said:

Hey, there's a club! Neat! I'm a fan of the 2005 series but I haven't seen the older episodes, so there are 8 whole doctors I'm not familiar with (yet).

Username: Tlachtli
Favorite Doctor: 10 (David Tennant)
Favorite Companion: Rory (Amy too, but mostly Rory)

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This was basically my take on it. I didn't really think much about it, I just assumed Day of the Doctor happened after they tried (and failed) the plan from End of Time. Since the Moment is what ultimately destroys/saves the planet, it would make sense for it to be the very last thing to happen on Galifrey.

Here's what really bugged me though--if John Hurt was supposed to be the incarnation between Eight and Nine, then why did the Moment appear to him as Rose? The whole Bad Wolf thing had no real meaning to him, because it hadn't happened for him yet and wouldn't happen until after he regenerated into Nine.

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WhiteKnightL said:

So, who can't wait for the Christmas special?

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Personally, I can't imagine the Silence, Daleks, and Cybermen all in one episode. We already know what happens when you pit the Daleks and the Cybermen with each other. And as we all know, this is Matt Smith's last episode as The Doctor. It'll be sad to see him go.

What do you expect Peter Capaldi's Doctor to be like? I expect him to be a little darker than his past incarnations though probably less than Eccleston. And I can see him gaze through his wardrobe when he changes - he'll probably hate most of his outfits, spot some Roman garbs and ponder for a bit before moving on to the next one. After all, he was in the Tennant episode "Fires of Pompeii."

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The Doctor said:

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Also, DotD happens after the Voyage of the Damned but before End of Time. These made so much sense to me I don't understand how people don't get that

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countryemo said:

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Also Moffat says Matt's the last Doctor but in DotD when Capadi shows up the timelords say all 13. Meaning Capaldi is the last. MOFFAT!

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Elendil said:

Wait, somehow this thread is still alive after 10 months of my absence? You know what, I'm not even annoyed, just purely amazed. Will update with all new members, sorry for the poor caretaking!

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