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Is privitizing state operated services a good thing?

Mr. X

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In theory, yes, but this case and numerous others shows what happens when profit, not serving the public, is the main concern.

When a private prison corporation paid Ohio $72.7 million in 2011 to purchase one of the state's facilities, the company touted the deal as a "groundbreaking" move that would serve as a model for other states looking to cut costs.

But in the year since Corrections Corporation of America took over the 1,700-bed Lake Erie Correctional Institution, state audits have found patterns of inadequate staffing, delays in medical treatment and "unacceptable living conditions" inside the prison -- including inmates lacking access to running water and toilets. The state docked the company nearly $500,000 in pay because of the violations.

In addition, a major uptick in crime near the private prison has burdened the small town of Conneaut, Ohio, with police there making a series of recent arrests related to attempts to smuggle drugs and alcohol into the facility. Officers responded to 229 calls related to the prison last year, nearly four times as many as the previous five years combined, according to the city's crime data.

"We understand that it's a private entity now, and that it's for-profit, but nothing can come at the expense of the safety and security of our citizens," said Conneaut Councilman Neil LaRusch, who recently sent a letter to Ohio Gov. John Kasich's office requesting assistance with the crime problem. "With the city finances the way they are right now, I can't go put 20 more people on staff at the police department."

Private prison companies such as CCA have pushed for a growing share of the nation's inmate population, promising to save states and the federal government money by managing their prison systems. Yet criminal justice experts say the experience in and around the Lake Erie prison amounts to a cautionary tale for other states considering whether to hand over their own facilities to private corporations.

"This is not a bargain for the states," said Michele Deitch, a senior lecturer and criminal justice expert at the University of Texas School of Public Affairs. "The longer the contracts are, the more likely you are to give rise to poor conditions and problems. It gives the states very little leverage to demand improvements."

CCA spokesman Steve Owen said the company has a "very strong track record" of transitioning prisons from state to private management, and said more recent audits have shown improvements at the Lake Erie prison. He said its sale offered immediate revenues for the state of Ohio, and as a private entity, the facility will provide local property tax revenue.


Private prison companies typically build their own facilities or manage existing prisons; the Ohio prison sale was the first of its kind. In an attempt to trim the state's corrections budget, Kasich, a Republican, in 2011 proposed selling off and privatizing up to five state prisons. After studying the costs, the state decided to sell only one: the Lake Erie Correctional Institution. (The state previously owned the prison but it had been managed by another contractor, Management & Training Corp.)

For its purchase price, CCA obtained not only the prison but a 20-year management contract to house inmates for the state and an initial guaranteed 90 percent occupancy rate. (The state has the option of renegotiating the occupancy rate down the line.)

Seeking to expand its market, CCA then used its successful Ohio purchase as a centerpiece of a nationwide sales pitch last year, offering to buy state prisons in exchange for long-term management contracts. In a letter sent to 48 states, CCA called the Ohio purchase a "seamless" acquisition that would build on the company's history of "safe and efficient operations."

Critics argue that the Lake Erie facility offers a textbook example of the problems that can arise from prison privatization: high rates of staff turnover, problems in administering health care and poor physical conditions.

"CCA has positioned this as a seamless transition," said Mike Brickner, public policy director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio. "It's been anything but that from the very beginning."

A September state audit found that inmates being disciplined in segregation at the prison were using plastic containers and bags as a makeshift restroom, in the absence of working toilets and running water.

Owen, the CCA spokesman, wrote in an email that a follow-up state audit, released in November, found improved conditions inside the facility. He also pointed to high marks for the Lake Erie prison in an outside inspection recently released by the American Correctional Association, an industry group that performs audits every three years.

"While we received an initial audit report for the facility that did not meet our high standards, both a re-inspection from the State and an extensive audit from the independent American Correctional Association ... confirm our commitment to ensuring that [the prison] is operating at the highest quality," Owen wrote.

He cited the ACA inspection as proof of CCA's high standards, calling it a "rigorous process involving a 72-hour, onsite audit of the facility and its operation," where auditors evaluated standards such as employee training, health care, rehabilitation programs and safety and security.

Outside critics argue that the ACA has inherent conflicts of interest that weaken its potential for oversight. The association's current president, Davidson County, Tenn., Sheriff Daron Hall, is a former managing director for CCA, and part of its budget comes from thousands of dollars in fees that prisons must pay to be accredited.

A spokesman for the ACA did not respond to requests for comment.

Over the past year, the state of Ohio has assessed almost $500,000 in penalties on CCA related to the Lake Erie prison, deducting $318,000 for staff vacancies and an additional $181,000 in damages for not adhering to its contract. Staffing was a persistent problem at the facility, according to state records. CCA did not fill several important positions, including a required vocational instructor and nurse practitioner.

Other breaches highlighted in the September audit included problems with medical care and concerns about security:
Inmates requesting to be seen by a nurse were not seen within 48 hours
Doctors' appointments were usually delayed, and often there were no follow-ups
Staff wasn't following the proper procedures for chronically ill inmates, including those with diabetes and AIDS
Inmates were triple-bunked, with some sleeping on mattresses on cell floors
"Some staff expressed safety concerns due to low staffing numbers and not having enough coverage."

The follow-up audit in November noted many improvements at the facility, particularly with cleanliness of the kitchens and other parts of the prison. The running water problems for inmates in segregation were fixed, according to the report.

But the state said there had not been enough time to determine whether there were consistent improvements to medical care at the facility. "Continual monitoring is needed to ensure the corrective action remains in full compliance," the report said.

Meanwhile, city officials in Conneaut are asking state police for additional assistance in monitoring the prison's perimeter. LaRusch, the local councilman, pointed to the recent arrest of a man who was trying to smuggle crack cocaine, marijuana and a cache of cell phones into the facility.

Owen said in an email that CCA has a "positive working relationship" with local law enforcement in Conneaut, and added that criminal incidents inside the prison have decreased. "While we cannot prevent people from trying to introduce contraband at the facility, our team, along with local law enforcement, has been able to successfully impede these efforts, which is a positive for facility safety and overall public safety," he wrote.

LaRusch said CCA officials have been receptive to suggestions about adding additional lighting and security guards to the prison, but he said the increase in smuggling points to a breakdown of control within the facility.

"There's something going on within the prison that is changing the atmosphere, that's saying, 'Yeah, you can get away with it,'" La Rusch said. "If they have that little amount of control inside their own prison, how long until there's an escapee? That's what we are really concerned about."


After privatizing the prison, it caused a massive increase in crime in the immediate area. According the crime data, the police have responded to 299 related to it - 4 times as much as the last 5 years combined.

Although, given that the prison is privatized, more crime is good for them. More crime means more people in prison, meaning more money for them. With the prison being privatized, the main concern is no longer protecting the people - It's making a profit, at any cost.

Other things the occurred due to the privatization - disregard for medical standards, disregard for proper sanitation, and severe under staffing. Some of these issues have since been resolved, but some haven't.

The idea that privatization of public services is a good thing, as it increases competitiveness with other private options, is a myth. Private industry hasn't, and never will, care about the person - Only profit.

So, what do you think? Would privatizing public services actually be good for the people? All the cases I've read about, so far, have had the people, and in some cases the government, getting screwed over from it.

Edit - A older case, but it serves as another example of why privatization isn't always the best solution.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/16/toll-road-privatization_n_878169.html

State leased road to companies in DIFFERENT COUNTRYS... I'm going to repeat this, because it sounds somewhat important... in DIFFERENT COUNTRYS, giving them the right to raise tolls as often as they want. This in exchange for 3.8 billion, and requiring them to maintain and upgrade the road as needed. (As needed. When it comes to cost cutting, as needed gets pushed back a few years.) And, these companies now have control of this road, gets all the money from the tolls, gets the set the tolls, and gets to decide when to preform maintainance and if or when to upgrade it - Until 2081. 75 years.

It wouldn't be as bad if it was to a company based in the US, but he sold it to one in other countrys. Thankfully it was to companies based in Australia and Spain. But it could have easily been to Saudi Arabia or China. Or Iraq. Or, if they could scrape together the money, Iran.

Supporters of privitization want you to believe that it will help the country... But tell me, how does it help us when we decide to become even more dependent on other countries?
 
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TRIFORCE89

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Some services are better suited to the public sector and some are better suited to the private. On the whole, I don't find privatization a scary thing. I'd prefer public-private partnerships though.

But it has got to be sensible (government doesn't need to run an air line or a liquor store). But clearly having financial incentives around the prison system is just asking for trouble. Same with healthcare (to an extent anyway. Canada's health care is still privately-operated, but publicly-funded), because doctors and drug companies make more money the longer you're sick.

Really, it's just common sense. Sometimes it makes sense, sometimes it doesn't. Neither option is the best option in every case.
 

Sweets Witch

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I'll edit this post when I get home from the store but for now I'm gonna leave this article about privatizing education.

Edit: I return. Excellent.

Anyway, as that article points out, running some things like businesses does not work. Government is one of those things, as are schools and prisons. Privatization often shifts the focus from overall effectiveness to financial effectiveness. As good as it would look on paper, a school modeled by these guidelines would suffer greatly. Private schools are plentiful, but the financial aspect of shifting a public school from government-owned to privately owned puts a heavy burden on the public. All of a sudden the surrounding families need to pay tuition to send their child to school while also paying the same amount of school taxes while the overall quality of the schooling may actually DECREASE.
 
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Privatization can mean inconsistency and incompatibility among all the separate groups operating in the same industry. That's not something you want with prisons or schools. Plus some things shouldn't be done for profit. Like I'd hate to see private groups operating background checks for gun purchases. Some would cut corners and others wouldn't be as stringent
 

TRIFORCE89

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I'll edit this post when I get home from the store but for now I'm gonna leave this article about privatizing education.

Edit: I return. Excellent.

Anyway, as that article points out, running some things like businesses does not work. Government is one of those things, as are schools and prisons.
I agree with you on the school and prisons. But Government can and should be run like a business. To a certain extent. Not in the profit-seeking motive, but in operating efficiently. Remove people from your workforce who are expendable, follow management best practices, spend sensibly. Maybe government should act like a business, but it could certainly stand to be well-managed. (Which is not to say every business is well-managed. Far, far from it. But there are techniques, practices, and policies that stem from the business world that could be borrowed)

There are things that government does try to run like a business, like public transit, that could be much better if they worked with private enterprise.

And there are ways of having private industry in the school system besides having them running it (although, there already are private schools that co-exist alongside the public system to begin with). In Sweden (I think? Might have Switzerland), starting in grade 9 students get to take co-ops and apprenticeships in their chosen career field. And they get paid for it. You can actually do something worth while and learn through it (in addition to getting paid), rather than working at McDonald's while your in school. Like, learn something in shop class and then actually put it use. Or you can shadow someone in the science industry for example.
 
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