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Unread December 22nd, 2008, 08:19 AM
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This tool will let help make learning XSE easier.

It can also be used as a quick way to write simple scripts for XSE.

Quick Scripts:

> Message Box
> Give Items
> Give Pokemon
> Apply movements
> Warps
> wildbattles
> Trainer Battles
> setting / clearing Flags.

Any Suggestions of what to add next would be greatly appreciated.
its not finished, but it has all the commands above included.
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File Type: zip XSE Script Helper.zip‎ (27.8 KB, 782 views)

Last edited by tozouku; December 24th, 2008 at 02:01 AM. Reason: Uploaded new version
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Unread December 22nd, 2008, 10:15 AM
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Sorry if I say that, but people that don't know much about scripting are supposed to read the tutorials and try themselves, rather than clicking a button or two.
Otherwhise they will never really learn scripting. Script generators (or helpers, or whatever you want to call them) are not they way to go, in my opinion.
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Unread December 22nd, 2008, 01:24 PM
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no offense bud, but this wont actually help hacker how to script, like HackMew said, we should learn to script and not just to push does boring button.. as my opinion, scripting with just a compiler is the best way to tell that you've learned something, at least..
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Unread December 22nd, 2008, 09:15 PM
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Still this will help many noob hackers.
great tool tozouku.
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Unread December 22nd, 2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HackMew View Post
Sorry if I say that, but people that don't know much about scripting are supposed to read the tutorials and try themselves, rather than clicking a button or two.
Otherwhise they will never really learn scripting. Script generators (or helpers, or whatever you want to call them) are not they way to go, in my opinion.
i think hackmews right we should learn how to script im TRYING to learn now im not making as good progress as id like but im learning
but i think this is a good idea for newbie hackers
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 01:44 AM
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Oh Cmon people! I learned how to script (First thing I learned, in fact) but I still think this is very useful, not only for newbs but for good scripters too. (Though I still think if you should learn scripting yourself, and not rely on tools... ESPECIALLY for scripting.)

This will help me a lot, thanks. Now I don't have to take the time to type up a script myself and can do it much more quickly.

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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 01:50 AM
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alright maybe i was wrong about helping people learn it.
I guess its main purpose now is to speed up making scripts.
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 03:23 AM
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Sorry if I say that, but people that don't know much about scripting are supposed to read the tutorials and try themselves, rather than clicking a button or two.
Otherwhise they will never really learn scripting. Script generators (or helpers, or whatever you want to call them) are not they way to go, in my opinion.
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Oh Cmon people! I learned how to script (First thing I learned, in fact) but I still think this is very useful, not only for newbs but for good scripters too. (Though I still think if you should learn scripting yourself, and not rely on tools... ESPECIALLY for scripting.)

This will help me a lot, thanks. Now I don't have to take the time to type up a script myself and can do it much more quickly.
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alright maybe i was wrong about helping people learn it.
I guess its main purpose now is to speed up making scripts.
All three of these posts are correct, even if seen as different.
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 04:03 AM
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XSE in my opinion is the most simple scripters out there. If they can't understand how to do simple commands on that then they should review the tutorials again.
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 04:12 AM
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Theres a difference between totally relying on a tool for scripting and using a tool to help you learn. If someone were to use this as their only method of scripting, then yes, they need to learn how to do it themselves. But if someone has been trying scripting for awhile and uses something like this every now and then to learn, I dont see an issue.

And just for clarification, let me sum up what I just said:

A tool like this is good as long as you arent lazy and use it constantly. This may help speed up the process of learning scrpting. I myself plan to test this and see how it goes, and once I get better at scripting, I;m getting rid of it so Im not tempted to use it as a crutch.
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 05:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HackMew View Post
Sorry if I say that, but people that don't know much about scripting are supposed to read the tutorials and try themselves, rather than clicking a button or two.
Otherwhise they will never really learn scripting. Script generators (or helpers, or whatever you want to call them) are not they way to go, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by X-Buster View Post
no offense bud, but this wont actually help hacker how to script, like HackMew said, we should learn to script and not just to push does boring button.. as my opinion, scripting with just a compiler is the best way to tell that you've learned something, at least..
That is correct, but in fact(don't flame me if I;m wrong), there are noobie hackers, that might be way too lazy to actually try to learn. Some just ask for help. So, this tool might solve most of the advanced scripters, from annoying, simple questions. I, for one, am NOT going to use this tool, as I'd rather learn myself..but may in fact help those new, lazy hackers.
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 04:03 PM
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This tool will let help make learning XSE easier.
False.

Quote:
It can also be used as a quick way to write simple scripts for XSE.
True.

Even though this doesn't teach you how to script, it may encourage you to learn how to script so you could use more advanced commands. It's a helpful tool for people who have started hacking, so they could see what scripting does, and learn themselves. People who don't want to learn how to script shouldn't use this tool at all, seeing as you can't complete a good hack with the few commands it has.
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HackMew View Post
Sorry if I say that, but people that don't know much about scripting are supposed to read the tutorials and try themselves, rather than clicking a button or two.
Otherwhise they will never really learn scripting. Script generators (or helpers, or whatever you want to call them) are not they way to go, in my opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Buster View Post
no offense bud, but this wont actually help hacker how to script, like HackMew said, we should learn to script and not just to push does boring button.. as my opinion, scripting with just a compiler is the best way to tell that you've learned something, at least..
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Originally Posted by landus View Post
i think hackmews right we should learn how to script im TRYING to learn now im not making as good progress as id like but im learning
but i think this is a good idea for newbie hackers
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Originally Posted by NeoNemesis View Post
Oh Cmon people! I learned how to script (First thing I learned, in fact) but I still think this is very useful, not only for newbs but for good scripters too. (Though I still think if you should learn scripting yourself, and not rely on tools... ESPECIALLY for scripting.)

This will help me a lot, thanks. Now I don't have to take the time to type up a script myself and can do it much more quickly.
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Originally Posted by Semblance View Post
XSE in my opinion is the most simple scripters out there. If they can't understand how to do simple commands on that then they should review the tutorials again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by redjacketalchemist View Post
Theres a difference between totally relying on a tool for scripting and using a tool to help you learn. If someone were to use this as their only method of scripting, then yes, they need to learn how to do it themselves. But if someone has been trying scripting for awhile and uses something like this every now and then to learn, I dont see an issue.

And just for clarification, let me sum up what I just said:

A tool like this is good as long as you arent lazy and use it constantly. This may help speed up the process of learning scrpting. I myself plan to test this and see how it goes, and once I get better at scripting, I;m getting rid of it so Im not tempted to use it as a crutch.
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False.

True.

Even though this doesn't teach you how to script, it may encourage you to learn how to script so you could use more advanced commands. It's a helpful tool for people who have started hacking, so they could see what scripting does, and learn themselves. People who don't want to learn how to script shouldn't use this tool at all, seeing as you can't complete a good hack with the few commands it has.
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I am a complete and total hacking noob. I looked through this program crawled around and stuff. Now i somewhat get it. Just thought i might point this out-Your program does not include the lock and face player commands. Also on the second label of a script eg applymovement @joe
when ever you get to #dynamic @joe there ends up being a space in between joe and @ (wherein joe is the label of your script) and also you need to change message @joe to msgbox @joe. But seriously people this helped me a bunch! So much in fact i figured scripting bugs!This is a happy day for me. So happy i did a little jig in my room out of happiness punched myself in the nose (on accident i'm not some weird wacked out emo(mab i am wacked out but not emo k?) and the best part is... it worked!
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Unread December 23rd, 2008, 10:21 PM
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are. the
lock
faceplayer

i knew i forgot something!
correct me if im wrong but arent message and msgbox the same thing?

Ill also fix the space problem.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Unread December 25th, 2008, 04:14 PM
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are. the
lock
faceplayer

i knew i forgot something!
correct me if im wrong but arent message and msgbox the same thing?

Ill also fix the space problem.

Thanks for the feedback!
Yes, they are.
You should really add lock and faceplayer.
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Unread December 25th, 2008, 05:24 PM
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This is good for encouraging the learning of XSE. Using this for every single script would be an insult to people like thethethe who spent their time making tutorials for this sort of thing.

To be quite honest, I don't like this. People should learn by themselves. I needed some help today and someone offered to do it for me but I declined because I wanted to do it myself. It gives people a good feeling when they accomplish something by themselves. Guiding people is fine.

And threads like the script help thread do not just give people answers. They correct them.
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Unread December 25th, 2008, 08:58 PM
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But still its not a bad tool.
not everyone is going to learn scripting easily so i think is cool that someone made a tool like this.
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Unread December 28th, 2008, 02:00 AM
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I can't seem to get this to work >.> when I try to open up the program it gives me the error:

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The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application.
If that can't be fixed it's okay, as long as someone can point me to this guide HackMew mentioned.
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Unread December 28th, 2008, 02:16 AM
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I can't seem to get this to work >.> when I try to open up the program it gives me the error:



If that can't be fixed it's okay, as long as someone can point me to this guide HackMew mentioned.
You need the .NET framework in order to run this (kinda buggy) program.
The guide comes with XSE, just check the zipped archive.
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Unread December 28th, 2008, 03:31 AM
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Oh. It works now. Thanks.
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For people who just want some quick scripts it will sure be helpful.
But i dont think it will help to learn scripting.
I myself am a professional scripter (i really mean professional, i earn money with it. not in the emulation scene but with php and javascripts) and i figured out that the only way to learn a programming language is the "learning-by-doing" method
even though tutorials and documents are very helpful, you still have to try out stuff and experiment with them in order to really learn them.
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Well, learning them is the best way but... if u learn too much, u will actually have headaches and ur grades will fall...
So, it is a OK tool.
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