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Old July 7th, 2008 (09:46 PM). Edited July 7th, 2008 by dragonarche.
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ROMS you are allowed to have them

If you live in Australia
roms are prfictly allowed as long as you follow these rules
(i found a cople of loop holes)

*don't make money of them

*don't give them to other people
use ips patchs

*must be deleted within 2 days
just copy and paste
(changes the date moderfied)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=615495


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Old July 7th, 2008 (10:27 PM).
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Let me point a few things,
  • We have loved roms since we wanted to play roms on the comp right?
    Well... WRONG
  • Nintendo points out rom's are illegal, because then it gives a reason why smart people download roms instead of buying the game.

Another thing:
  • Rom Hacking isn't illegal(well to SMW-super mario world, it is.)
  • Nintendo are idiots and doesnt realize we can make a hack that's ten times better than their games.

Pirates:
  • Pirates, gain money, right?
  • I actually sue them if it shows some hack games I see

Examples:
  • Shiny Gold
  • Blue Sea
  • White
  • Pokemon Perla

Pirates gain money, then when they realize they get sued, they move their shops.

So if everybody stopped rom hacking, their still get money from what they burn games onto the cartridges, and tell those people who said rom hack is illegal to
  • Eat ****
  • Pirates won't stop, so stop complaining.
  • People of PC are going to hack you guys, if you don't shut up.
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Old July 7th, 2008 (11:12 PM).
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

Although, I don't see why Nintendo would try to sue a user of a hacked version.

Seeing how they are not taking credit for the entire game, but just for the hacked parts of it.

Maps, Trainers, Scripts ect.

When it comes to Nintendo, They're not the smartest with legal issues.
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Old July 8th, 2008 (04:43 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Melash:
Just a comment...I was using google to look up information of ROM's awhile back, and I found a Nintendo announcement about ROM's. They said that ROM's were illegal, but they also said that they were not taking any legal action against them! Awesome!
Thats good news for us rom hackers
now we can happily hack pokemon games agin.
yay!!

i hope pokemon platinum gets released soon
so i can play it on my R4
can't wait
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Old July 8th, 2008 (08:16 AM).
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i am a little surprised here... the fact that they joined some organisation does not change the law. at all but also the use of ips patches is also not perfect from a legality standpoint. some things you might be want to consider
-translations are ALWAYS illegal, but normally noone cares (counter example harry potter fan translation)
-having any nintendo code/data in the ips=illegal (will happen if you have to relocate a map or so)
everything else besides cheat codes is gray area at best
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Old July 8th, 2008 (09:39 AM).
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i never figured that Rom Hacking WAS illegal, i just wanted to be safe...even if it was illegal i wasnt going to stop or delete my roms...i download music and thats illegal but that doesnt mean im going to delete my mp3s either
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Quote originally posted by khaosknight1:
i never figured that Rom Hacking WAS illegal, i just wanted to be safe...even if it was illegal i wasnt going to stop or delete my roms...i download music and thats illegal but that doesnt mean im going to delete my mp3s either

Exactly, I mean, sure. I wouldn't doubt there has been a few people that have gotten in trouble for the use of ROMs they had. but what happened with the whole pirating music?
People got caught and it was this giant ordeal over the news, but look now. the mp3 pirating ordeal has almost completely died off. Just like ROMs. I begin to think after long
enough of trying to fight pirating they just gave up. Just like how Nintendo has basicilly giving up on legal issues dealing with ROMs of their games.
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Old July 8th, 2008 (09:51 AM).
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Well yeah but last year 80% of uks gaming teens had pirated games. I mean lol its uncontrolable.
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Old July 8th, 2008 (09:53 AM).
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I was just trying to get the point across that the government and companies almost give up on controling the situation because it gets out of hand and it'll take A LOT of money and such to be
able to actually bring all the people who has pirated games to justice. It's an impossible odd.
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I heard on www.poke-amph.com that ROMs are only illegal if you don't own the game. Is this true?
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Old July 8th, 2008 (01:05 PM).
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I haven't got a clue if it's true or not. I hope not But then again, I don't care.
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Old July 8th, 2008 (02:25 PM).
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Quote originally posted by ICE-X:
I keep my hack on a USB drive because I live in two houses. If nintendo searched my computer they wouldn't find anything......lol. And all of my nds roms are on my supercard!
Well, thats where they would bust you. Even though you keep it on ur USB,
it still leaves traces on your CPU. You would need to format your hard drive for
them to not find it, and theres still a chance that it would show up.
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Old July 8th, 2008 (04:07 PM).
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What I'm most worried about is the fifth generation of pokemon, If we can no longer get roms in the future, how will we hack future generations.
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Quote originally posted by Busted 101:
I heard on www.poke-amph.com that ROMs are only illegal if you don't own the game. Is this true?
No matter whether you obtain the game or not, downloading ROMs is always illegal.

In any case, I doubt that Game Freak would join the ESA, an American association. So far I've seen no mention of it outside of a few Youtube videos... and we know how trustworthy those are. :rolleyes:
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i have smeting to say
so only nintendo has joined the ESA
what about the other companys
that make NDS roms
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Old July 8th, 2008 (07:06 PM).
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meh the good thing is that i have all the roms i need
and i can't download roms now anyway cause my dad installed this weird thing that blocks me from extracting zipped folders
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Quote originally posted by IIMarckus:
No matter whether you obtain the game or not, downloading ROMs is always illegal.
I'm pretty sure that that's not true. At least, if it is, it hasn't always been. I've always known it to be legal if you own the game.
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ROMs are not strictly enforced in China.
email Nintendo about all of them
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Old July 8th, 2008 (07:48 PM).
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Quote originally posted by Mobile Tsk:
I'm pretty sure that that's not true. At least, if it is, it hasn't always been. I've always known it to be legal if you own the game.
It has always been illegal to download ROMs that aren't in the public domain. Always always always. If you own the original game, it's still illegal. If you delete the ROM after 24 hours, it's still illegal. That has never changed, and probably won't anytime soon either.
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Quote originally posted by IIMarckus:
No matter whether you obtain the game or not, downloading ROMs is always illegal.
wrong there are rules

*only download roms if you own the original
otherwise must be deleted within 24hours
*don't sell the rom
*dont give the rom to someone else
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Old July 8th, 2008 (09:38 PM).
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Quote originally posted by khan:
wrong there are rules

*only download roms if you own the original
otherwise must be deleted within 24hours
*don't sell the rom
*dont give the rom to someone else
Those rules were made up by ROM site owners years ago trying to bring some "legitimacy" to their piracy. Downloading ROMs that aren't released under a free license is illegal, always. It's still illegal if you own the original. It's still illegal if you delete it within 24 hours. It's still illegal if you don't sell it. It's still illegal if you don't give it to somebody else. Downloading ROMs that aren't released under a free license is illegal, always.
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Old July 8th, 2008 (10:34 PM).
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The matter of the topic seems to have been settled, so I'll lock this because it is now going to a ROM downloading topic instead of a ROM Hacking topic like it intentionally was.

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