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Old December 14th, 2008 (09:52 PM).
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As far as the main line of games goes, we have had a Pokemon starter that strays away from the traditional grass/water/fire trio.

Special Pikachu Edition, anyone?

Pikachu was catchable in the wild in both red and blue, but I believe they just pulled them out for Yellow. Also, if you transferred another Pikachu onto your cart it didn't follow you around on the screen or have the special emote bubbles your beginner Pikachu had.

As for the evolution blues.. that can easily be fixed by just moving around where you can buy evolution stones, or an addition to a special event.

Anyone who's saying getting "stuck" with a normal type pokemon as your starter wouldn't be a good idea.. QQ. Not everyone fronts their team with a starter. But if that's still not enough, think back to Yellow once again: You didn't just get one, you got Pikachu and all three original starters.

So basically what I'm trying to say is.. I think Eevee as a starter could potentially work if it was a special edition of one of the existing games like Yellow was.
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Quote originally posted by Platina Berlitz:
As far as the main line of games goes, we have had a Pokemon starter that strays away from the traditional grass/water/fire trio.

Special Pikachu Edition, anyone?

Pikachu was catchable in the wild in both red and blue, but I believe they just pulled them out for Yellow. Also, if you transferred another Pikachu onto your cart it didn't follow you around on the screen or have the special emote bubbles your beginner Pikachu had.

As for the evolution blues.. that can easily be fixed by just moving around where you can buy evolution stones, or an addition to a special event.

Anyone who's saying getting "stuck" with a normal type pokemon as your starter wouldn't be a good idea.. QQ. Not everyone fronts their team with a starter. But if that's still not enough, think back to Yellow once again: You didn't just get one, you got Pikachu and all three original starters.

So basically what I'm trying to say is.. I think Eevee as a starter could potentially work if it was a special edition of one of the existing games like Yellow was.
I forgot about that...lol
Yay another person is with me to count Eevee in as a starter...lol:cer_smile:
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Old December 15th, 2008 (04:26 AM).
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I would love to have Eevee as a starter, but in a game that you could have all the Evelutions.
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Old December 15th, 2008 (07:47 AM).
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Eevee was a starter in the initial Mystery Dungeon games.

Eevee is hard to evolve and doesn't have a good movepool.

On the flip side it has 50% chance of getting a good ability (which ultimately go away upon evolution) and evolutions to satisfy many players.

But I rather have the regular starters to have a reliable sweeper.
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Eh, there probably wouldn't be any elemental stones for a long time in the game, like Gummy said.

It would probably be a better idea to have Flareon, Vaporean, and Leafeon as the three starters in the beginning of the game, even if they wouldn't evolve.

They could also make something like Pokemon XD for a handheld, like you would start out as an Eevee and then you would choose a stone at the beginning.

I don't know, but I don't really thing Eevee as a starter would work.
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Old December 20th, 2008 (06:04 PM).
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Vaporeon, Leafeon and Flareon? Not Leafeon Becuase u can get one in Eterna...
I would say more like Eevee (later on Eterna or Snowpoint) Vaporeon and Flareon...
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I would love that too- I would certainly evolve mine into either a Jolteon or Glaceon
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Well, I wouldn't mind it but it's highly unlikely mainly because you can get A LOT of types from it later game, so it's best it isn't.
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On that note, it'd be awesome to design everything about your character (like hair color, clothing, eyes, battle stance, etc.)
You mean like Runescape? Either they only let you have 3 choices for your clothing, or NO. It is hard to script it out. BUT if the technology gets better, this could be a good addition. But right now, it's a no.

As for me, I would agree to let Eevee be a starter.
-You have a big variety of eeveelutions;
-you can see its cuteness; and
-it might be a new challenge.

But there IS disadvantages. The rival would have a tough time choosing a Pokemon which can pwn Eevee easily, because we can evolve it to whatever we want, and I think the programmers wouldn't want so much trouble to get EIGHT Pokemon that has advantages over the respective evolutions.

So I think they'll do this: they'll either force you to evolve Eevee immediately at one point, when they give you a rock, so not to cause so much ruckus to the game. Or they'll continue the custom of having grass-fire-water starters.

I STILL agree to let Eevee become a starter. ALL HAIL EEVEE!!!
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Eevee would be nice as a starter, as it has it's many eeveeloutions. However, It wouldnt fit with the triangle. There is more than one type, and not many of them are weak/effective against each other.
I would like to see a change of heart in GameFreak's games. But so far, we're stuck with the usual grass/water/fire.
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It would be a intresting idea, there would be so many ways to go about evolving, instead of thousands of threads asking "Which is better Torchic or Mudkip?", there could be "Which Eveelution did you choose?", much more intresting in my opinion

Vivva, the types pretty much do the same as the type strenght, Jolteon (Electric) > Vaporeon (Water) > Flareon (Fire) > Glaceon (Ice) > Leafeon (Grass). Then there is the Umbreon (Dark) > Espeon (Psychic). Not exactly what you wanted I know, but still lol
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Old December 21st, 2008 (10:42 AM).
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Vaporeon, Leafeon and Flareon? Not Leafeon Becuase u can get one in Eterna...
I would say more like Eevee (later on Eterna or Snowpoint) Vaporeon and Flareon...

Well, you can get Eevee in the Trophy Garden.
And the reason I said Leafeon should be one is because in all the handheld Pokemon games, you would have the choice of a Fire, Water, or Grass type.
Another thing, why would you want a starter that could evolve into the two other starters?
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Sounds like a great idea. Although it'll break the traditional fire-water-grass starters.

Wouldn't mind seeing ROM hack of it though.
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Isn't Eevee a starter in Pokemon XD? Or are my facts mixed up? But yeah somebody should do a hack of it regardless.
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OMG if Eevee was a starter it better learn good moves...

wait wasn't Eevee the starter in Pokemon XD?

anyway I hate eevee but eh it wouldn't be that bad to have something other than a grass/fire/water choice...
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Is it just me...? I've always found Eevee sort of....bland.
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Quote originally posted by dialga493:
OMG if Eevee was a starter it better learn good moves...

wait wasn't Eevee the starter in Pokemon XD?

anyway I hate eevee but eh it wouldn't be that bad to have something other than a grass/fire/water choice...
Oh gosh, at least like it a little bit, eevee was born in the pokemon world for people to like it...i like it...

Quote originally posted by jasonresno:
Is it just me...? I've always found Eevee sort of....bland.
How could u be so mean to eevees?
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You can have a eevee as a starter by using A-Starter
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Old December 26th, 2008 (09:25 AM).
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You can have a eevee as a starter by using A-Starter
huh? I'm not quite understanding what you mean there...
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Eevee as a starter-- nein.

Yes, I adore the lil' guy-- I even have a Vaporeon, a Jolteon, and an Espeon on my Diamond team. However, having Eevee would throw off the "rock-paper-scissors" concept of the starters (this is primarily speaking for the handheld games).

Eevee is a normal type. If I remember, normal types have no elemental resistances, strenghts, or weaknesses. The point of the starters of the handheld games is to have the rock-paper-scissors concept. Grass >beats> Water >beats> Fire >beats> Grass.

Rinse and repeat.

Yellow version is the exception to this because at the time, they were following the anime. Ash gets Pikachu, protagonist gets Pikachu. Tada~.

Ahem, but moving back. As someone already mentioned, Eevee is too versitaile. It has 7 evolutions (for each of the Special-move types, I believe-- I read somewhere that dragon is the last one of these types/moves to be created). If the aforementioned is true, imagine a trainer with a dragon-type level 10... ? Let us just hope that if such a thing was to occur, the way to get a dragon-type Eeveelution was really, really tricky...

So I'm against Eevee as a starter, primarily because of the "HolyCrapEvolutions!" and that it ruins the handheld's concept of rock-paper-scissors starter choices. If they could keep to that, I'd be fine with it, but... yeah, you can't do that with a Normal type.
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Eevee as a starter-- nein.

Yes, I adore the lil' guy-- I even have a Vaporeon, a Jolteon, and an Espeon on my Diamond team. However, having Eevee would throw off the "rock-paper-scissors" concept of the starters (this is primarily speaking for the handheld games).

Eevee is a normal type. If I remember, normal types have no elemental resistances, strenghts, or weaknesses. The point of the starters of the handheld games is to have the rock-paper-scissors concept. Grass >beats> Water >beats> Fire >beats> Grass.

Rinse and repeat.

Yellow version is the exception to this because at the time, they were following the anime. Ash gets Pikachu, protagonist gets Pikachu. Tada~.

Ahem, but moving back. As someone already mentioned, Eevee is too versitaile. It has 7 evolutions (for each of the Special-move types, I believe-- I read somewhere that dragon is the last one of these types/moves to be created). If the aforementioned is true, imagine a trainer with a dragon-type level 10... ? Let us just hope that if such a thing was to occur, the way to get a dragon-type Eeveelution was really, really tricky...

So I'm against Eevee as a starter, primarily because of the "HolyCrapEvolutions!" and that it ruins the handheld's concept of rock-paper-scissors starter choices. If they could keep to that, I'd be fine with it, but... yeah, you can't do that with a Normal type.
you could eliminate the rock paper scissors concept if prof. oak offered a fire, waterstone and they changed the way leafeon evolved then problem solved. Your rival would just pick the stone that's stronger than your choice....
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Old December 26th, 2008 (11:10 AM).
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Quote originally posted by Treeko-kt:
you could eliminate the rock paper scissors concept if prof. oak offered a fire, waterstone and they changed the way leafeon evolved then problem solved. Your rival would just pick the stone that's stronger than your choice....
Good point...and they could make Leafeon evolve with a leaf stone!
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I like Eevee, because I really love Umbreon and Jolteon, but I don't think it should be a starter. Eevee is a weak pokemon in the game. Admit it, all you want to do is get it to evolve quickly and power up that pokemon. But if you really want an Eevee starter, play Gale of Darkness or a hacked game. Personally, I just miss the original starters: Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle. And, also, every kid and their mother has an Eevee as a starter in fanfiction, which is absoultely horrible now a days because its so hard to find good quality. If there was some good form and only the occasional Eevee, it wouldn't be too bad.
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Eevee as a starter-- nein.

Yes, I adore the lil' guy-- I even have a Vaporeon, a Jolteon, and an Espeon on my Diamond team. However, having Eevee would throw off the "rock-paper-scissors" concept of the starters (this is primarily speaking for the handheld games).

Eevee is a normal type. If I remember, normal types have no elemental resistances, strenghts, or weaknesses. The point of the starters of the handheld games is to have the rock-paper-scissors concept. Grass >beats> Water >beats> Fire >beats> Grass.

Rinse and repeat.

Yellow version is the exception to this because at the time, they were following the anime. Ash gets Pikachu, protagonist gets Pikachu. Tada~.

Ahem, but moving back. As someone already mentioned, Eevee is too versitaile. It has 7 evolutions (for each of the Special-move types, I believe-- I read somewhere that dragon is the last one of these types/moves to be created). If the aforementioned is true, imagine a trainer with a dragon-type level 10... ? Let us just hope that if such a thing was to occur, the way to get a dragon-type Eeveelution was really, really tricky...

So I'm against Eevee as a starter, primarily because of the "HolyCrapEvolutions!" and that it ruins the handheld's concept of rock-paper-scissors starter choices. If they could keep to that, I'd be fine with it, but... yeah, you can't do that with a Normal type.

You Could Brake The Pokemon Tradition And Make it so you have to choose a eevee and u make 1 rival in later game(has a a eeveelution thats super effective against yours and if you still have eevee he/she has eevee)
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